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    For those interested in old cars.

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    I dont have a problem with people restoring competition cars but this isnt a competition car is it, and there are only so many shells left and most used for competition end up ruined.

     

    The majority of historic rally cars are built from standard road cars. 'Restored' competition cars are generally ex-works jobs that will cost you more than a brand new Lamborghini. Or two....

     

    I'd still happily 'ruin it', as I'd prefer to see it actually out competing in a rally, race or hillclimb than sat on a  field in a 'classic car show' which bore me to tears.... My son, three year old grandaughter & I were out watching the Harry Flatters Rally on Epynt in the pouring rain yesterdy - Escorts, Minis, Avengers, Cortinas, TR7s, an M3, Delta Integrale & many others being thrown around teeming wet tarmac stages - wonderful !!

     

    But, I'll say it again, each to his own.... :declare:

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    Surely that would only apply to vehicles that made it onto the digital records in the first instance?

     

    Those scrapped before the V5 came into being [iE, still using old card log book] won't be on DVLA's records...[especially if Local Authority records were lost or destroyed?]

     

    Yes, sorry, I should have said on the 'puter databases!

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    How's this for a little gem... a Chilean built fibreglass Austin Cooper 998 from 1969, throughout their limited production these cars kept the Mk1 styling features, smaller rear window, smaller rear lights, early style bootlid with hanging numberplate, exterior door hinges and sliding windows... some had bumpers front and rear but this one has the deseamed look...

     

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    It needs arches though!

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    Cwm Bach - A South Wales Branch Line

    in 7mm+ modelling

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    I fear the gesture to which you refer and it's origins may be lost upon the more genteel members of RMweb.

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    That would be the one the mercenary Welsh archers used to demonstrate they still had the fingers required to draw the string of their longbows back?

     

    I also get the error message on Faceache Chris...

     

    Keith

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    the only four door escorts i ever saw being used for rallying were the mk2 1300 sport which were popular for road rallies where the cars were built to a lower spec than those used for stage rallying . 

     

    I did about half an hour's research (ie googling!) earlier using as many search parameters Icould think of to try & find any Mk1 4 door rally (or indeed any competition) Escort & the only 4 doors that came up in any search were Mk2's. These are obviously getting more popular with the increasingly stupid prices of 2 doors. I also re-discovered one build where somebody is converting a 4 door Mk2 into a 2 door with much cutting & shutting! Wonder if anyone's considered doing that to a Mk1?

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

    Posted · Edited by keefr2

     At a club level, where these things were stitched together in a lock-up, might prove a different story?   

     

    I built 5 of my own in my dad's single car garage & helped build/maintain/repair at least 6 others belonging to motor club friends, did road and stage club rallies both in my own Escorts and navigating in others and never, but never, saw a 4 door Mk1 rally car... Maybe there were some in different areas of the country, but I've never seen a photo or article about one either.

     

    Used to have a subscription to CCC for donkey's years - gave them all away a few years ago. Another SWMBO 'suggestion' I wish I'd not listened to! (After we bought the Mini I recalled an issue that had an article on Will Sparrow's Motoring News rally winner - managed to find out what one it was & found it on e-bay. Cost me £6.99 for an issue with a cover price of 15p IIIRC!)

     

    I'd be interested to see the CCC articles you mention, I'll google later to see if I can find anything...

    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    IIRC...the 4-door Escort [mk1] shell was preferred when building an Escort for rallying, as the 4 -door floorpan was reinforced by Ford.

    No, don't think so. All 'proper' Mk1 rally cars started as two doors that were then built into strenghened 'Type 49' shells using an AVO Boreham kit. The works cars & 'replicas' of such, went much further than that with seam welding, rear suspension turret kits, steel 'bubble' arches etc. The two door shell was inherently stronger as it had two less big holes cut in it! The Type 49 kit was a fairly simple weekend welding job, even including hoisting the engine out to weld in the front suspension top mount re-inforcing plates. You could also order bare shells from any RS dealer & they'd weld the kit in for you. Mexico's, RS2000's and 1600's all came with Type 49 shells as standard and thus were often the choice for a club rally car - bolt in a cage, some Bilsteins, hot cam & twin 40/45 Webers & a few other bits & bobs and you had a basic competitive rally car!

     

     

    As I said earlier, I've never seen a 4 door Mk1 rally car, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're out there now given the price of 2 doors, but back in the day no one would have looked twice at  a 4 door Mk1...!!

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    I've actually seen mk2 4 doors as rallycars which kooks a bit odd but as the price of decent 2 door shells as got stupid you can see why.

    Incidentally there were mk2 four door sports

     

    There are quite a few Mk2 'more doors' being used/built as rally cars - and now decent basic 4 doors are getting rarer - & hence ever more expensive! Personally I think the Mk2 looks OK, but the Mk1 4 door was certainly never a design classic, & I don't think I've ever seen one rally prepared. I do have a bit of a soft spot for them as I passed my test in one. Doesn't mean I'd ever buy one though!

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    For those interested in old cars.

    in Wheeltappers

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    Escort - are there are 1100 now or have all got 1600 XFlow or the Pinto?

    If you see one it'll likely be a four door - the vast majority of the two doors will either be rally cars or Mex/RS2 'replica's'. Although I did see a lovely original purple velvet 1300E two door a few months back - although that wasn't exactly a base model when new!

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