Blandford1969

J37?

You'd be amazed how much side to side wobble even at slow speeds you can see when accelerating just from the hammer blow

14 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said:

Still shown as a web exclusive on the Hornby website and available to order :- https://uk.Hornby.com/products/br-stanier-5mt-black-5-caprotti-4-6-0-44755-era-4-web-exclusive-r30227

However the staff on the Hornby stand at the weekend knew nothing about it at all.

On 29/10/2023 at 21:00, Stoke West said:

Austerity 2-8-0 apparentley were good at pulling the coal forward

There is a story of Gordon on its way to Shildon in 75. It was running tender first, to demonstrate how to get the coal forwards the driver accelerated the loco up to about 50 and then shut off. As anyone who has been on a Dub dee will know the intermideiate buffers are pointless. The tender crashed into the loco, bounced off and was repeated countless times with the coal shooting forwards onto the footplate,

Those tenders rank as about the worst for getting coal down unless you get in and dig it forwards

Paul put on another very nice exhibition. What made me chuckle was the people on the Hornby stand knowing nothing about the Capprotti 5F version due next summer. 

Self trimming tender - you want the coal you get it yourself. Its amazing how coal can make verhical surfaces even when being bounced around

7 hours ago, billy_anorak59 said:

OK - it's an Ivatt, not a Standard 2, but just for the record, this might be a good reference for an 'in-service, but clean' look? My photo - Bridgenorth 1984. Of course, excuse the bell for the BR period!

Blimey, the only ones I can recognise for certain are Godfrey Stuart on the far left, now sadly in a home and Andy Darby on the far right (one of our Inspectors now) next to him might be Charles Newton who bougght 6521. The shed of course in its very windy and dark days. So much better now with its doors , overhead crane and better, lighter roof. Behind looks like the Babby (7819 Hinton Manor) 

Severn Valley will be there at the weekend. Not sure we will have anything on next year, although that is being worked on for Warley. I'm on our stall on Sunday. 

The Railwayman's arms - the beer is great and I love the questions on the bog seat with names on it (the Bodfish trophy) 

So having managed to do some modelling, I came to a grinding halt again. The thought of the upcoming redundancies which start next Monday have had me having bad dreams at the thought of some really good and decent people being told they are not needed. Sadly the orders have dried up in some areas due to a reduction in our customers work (investment in Europe has dropped from 22 billion Euros last year to less than 10 billion this year. 

Back to that wish of just winning enough to quietly retire and walk away (even though I really like the company and people who are decent people) Grrr- at least this weekend I get to enjoy the delights of a Pannier on at least 6 and a green fire risk so it can be driven properly and not made to slug away in first valve when it really needs to be got going and then pulled right up to get the best. Its got to be better than last Saturdays effort as well. The sort of trip when at every station you see a red home and are told they have not got to (inset name of next signal) followed at the last by being held at the outer and like an idiot tried to ring in from the phone pressing the button, holding for 5 minutes before giving up and using a mobile to be told the previous engine was still loosing time running round. Then to add insult to injury having run round there were the S&T in the Obbo at the front of the train - did you know the phone is not working at the outer - Oh yes came the reply ! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr came to mind as to why there was no notice nor anything on it to say it was out of order!

The Severn Valley railway had a permenant speed restriction of 45mph south of Bridgnorth and 55mph north of Bridgnorth. The curves at Northwood were restricted to 40, and the section from what is now just beyond the waterworks to the Arley side of Victoria bridge was 30mph. Not sure about the restrictions north of Bridgnorth - However I imagine there might have been something around Jackfield. 

20 hours ago, thegreenhowards said:

Tony,

 

As discussed in our PMs, I’m happy to help if you want to go down the original route or some help with the kit, but I’d rather not get involved with the chassis, as I find they take an awful lot of fettling!

 

Regards

 

Andy

Silly question as I have a PDK T9 to build, what do you recommend in terms of fettling?

2 hours ago, rogerzilla said:

Went for a quick one-dayer today.  Very busy and they'd put an extra relief train on at 0940 from Kidders.  Only gripe is that the volunteer catering arrangements aren't all there - no buffet on the train, as the caterer hadn't made it in, and Bewdley tea shop was closed too.

That's just down to the number of volunteers that put in as available I'm affraid. All the catering staff were cut back in the early period of the year. 

The releif train was put on at short notice after last Saturday was over full. Suggestions were made that many were using their free return. 

Meanwhile we spent all day cleaning mainly the bottom half of the visiting S160 to get rid of all the rubbish that was still on it from not being loved whereever it was before. 

For your S11 had you seen PDK now do a kit?

12 hours ago, Bernard Lamb said:

The main problem with the DJH kit is the tender which has oval cut outs as per the NER drawing, rather than the shaped version actually carried by all tenders of thetype used on the D20s.

I do not have the drawings or any kits that Arthur produced, but going from photographs they look pretty good.

I think the front frames on one variant are also suspect on the DJH kit.

Bernard

Arthur supplies both types of front frames, which I will use on 2020 with the original frames being used with Arthurs D20 kit. I had seen how little the DJH tender looked like the actual tender frames.

22 hours ago, Bernard Lamb said:

Nothing better than a D20. Well done.

However be aware that the original drawings were destroyed in a fire and the archive drawings were made according to the current practice at the time and not how the locomotives were originally  built. DJH fell into this trap.

Bernard

Thanks, I only have a partial drawing which shows the cab and a little way forwards. The rest is coming drom drawings of D20s. Where are the differences in the drawings to reality?

I'm lucky that I purchased a complete set of D20 fittings from Arthur Kimber at the same time I bought one of his D20 kits to have a D20/1 as well. 

5 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Splendid scratch-building! 

 

Unless more like this is done, it runs the risk of becoming a dying art. 

 

Please keep us informed of progress.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Thanks for your kind words. I will post updates when they happen. Getting better has taken years and lots of errors and things just not that good. Ironicly the first firebox and boiler I made was for a Crownline A2/3 as Honeyway.  Possibly due to my ADHD tendencies I have all sorts on the go as when things get hard I flit to another one and then come back. I shaped the running plate this evening for under the cab so it might progress now I've finally got the cab together and got a tender kit at a good price of Ebay..

Nor something that I'm getting on Edge

So some of 73068 for you

BWR0338 73068 TEMPLECOMBE SAT 05.09.1965 | David Russon | Flickr

BR Standard 5 4-6-0 73068 at Templecombe Upper station 6 S… | Flickr
73068 | Standard Class 5 No: 73068 pulling into Sturminster … | Flickr

82041

Riddles "Standard Class 3" 2-6-2 tank No. 82041. | At Bath G… | Flickr

82041 at Bristol Temple Meads | Inside the original Brunel t… | Flickr
82041 at Bath Green Park | Michael James | Flickr
Standard 3 Tank on Bath Green Park | In 1960, soon after bei… | Flickr

82041 pulls into Bristol Temple Meads | Standard Class 3 tan… | Flickr

Bath Green Park shed | Another view of Bath Green Park shed … | Flickr

Railways - 82041 on Bath Shed | Standard class 3 2-6-2 tank … | Flickr
BR Standard 3MT 2-6-2T no. 82041 passes the Brickfields in… | Flickr

Standard Tank waits to leave Platform 14 at Temple Meads | Flickr

GREEN PARK M.P.D. | MIKE WARE | Flickr

BR Standard 3 2-6-2T 82041 at Bath Green Park station 6 Se… | Flickr

82041 at 82F Bath on 26.04.64 (DPH 026) | Dave Hill | Flickr
BR 3MT 2-6-2T No 82041 awaits its fate at Cashmores Scrapy… | Flickr

82041 at Mangotsfield | 82041 is on the 12/14 SO ex Bristol … | Flickr

82041-33027-4113 Cashmores Newport 14.5.66 | George Woods | Flickr

Bath Green Park 1959 | 82041 with the ash waggon near the tu… | Flickr

Well the TIA clinic thinks what I had was just a very bad migraine, although an MRI is booked just to check. Whether because of that or things moving on and having a years extension on my contract I managed to do an hours modelling this evening for probably the first time in 7 months. Although most of that was finding bits where I had put them and what to do about missing bits,  Still it was statisfying just to do a little bit. 

I've sent you a pm with drawings of the box and main building

11 hours ago, meil said:

In a word - no. It may look like a Fowler top but its not. It's a Johnson tender with the portion above the top beading amended with a steel straight plate.

Thanks, I've blown up the couple of negatives I have got of the engine to look at the tender. I'm going to have a go at doing a drawing to work it out. 

Which books have you looked in, there are certainly photos in various books

Hello does anyone know of a drawing or side on view of LMS tender T1965 which was a rebuilt Johnson 3250 gallon tender. First fitted to £p 393 till January 1929, then it ran with 3f 43435 till withdrawl in 1960. 

Ragstone do a kit in 7mm, but it is 4mm I model in. They say they did not find a drawing and say in their instructions that the front was slightly different so its curve matched the height of the cab. 

I'd love to model one. 

Can I use a Johnson set of frames and then draw out a Fowler tender style and ammend?