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I have an LMS booklet detailing the various types of coaling tower. I got part way through scanning it, must finish it.

Thanks once again. Looking at the caption again, the before photo was taken on my parent's wedding day, 25th March 1950. I don't know when they went on their honeymoon, but presumably not on the 25th, as they would have travelled either from Manchester or Wigan to London.

As you say, if they are sitting on a pile of assets, and want to get off the bus, you'd think they'd just sell up, rather than pick a fight with the authorities.

Hadn't realised 5407 went FR red. I've found 2 photos on Flickr, both from KDH Archive, both with sharing disabled, so I can't even share a link. I quite like the green on 44806 & 44932, but not really sure about FR red. It looks a bit dull to me.

Do WCRC actually own the Carnforth site, or is it leased from one of BR's successors?

And because people-real people-die or are seriously injured. And they are not all namby-pamby mollycoddled youngsters either. The unfortunate thing is that it takes so long for authority to take actions.

Thanks, I know LMS black is a minefield! I'm interested in 4932 specifically because it was built at Horwich in Sept 1945. My dad was working in Horwich works at the time, and may have worked on it, hence the interest in whether it has carried the livery it was built in since preservation.

Plenty of disc fitted 40's went around with two discs showing, regardless of the type of train being worked! Not unknown for them to carry royal train discs on freight workings!

As for the date, certainly post-1974 as that's when the electrification to Scotland was completed. Looking at the state of the OHL gantries, they're not brand new, so probably late 70's, early 80's.

Has 44932 ever run in preservation in LMS livery as 4932? As built at Horwich in Sept 1945, it would presumably have carried 1936 LMS lined black, or possibly unlined black-has it carried this livery since preservation? I know about the lined BR green of the 70's, and rather fetching it looks too.

That'll be 451km from Euston, electrification plates were done in metric for Weaver Jn north to Glasgow. 451km is about 250 miles 270 miles, so I'd say it's Oxenholme Shap?

I was on a train going south somewhere near Watford, sometime in about 1986/7, and saw those mk3's in DSB livery going presumably to Harwich for delivery.

It's been said before that imaginary locomotives really need imaginary railways to run on, and probably need imaginary countries to exist in. If we imagine huge mineral reserves in Scotland, and maybe a much more densely populated Scotland and northern England, then maybe the traffic would exist for such locomotives - heavy, long trains of minerals travelling at a good speed to keep out of the way of the heavy, fast passenger trains constantly moving people across the country.

Never heard that one. We always called them "cans", and not in a good way either!

And Right loco Right route Right livery Wrong number (posing as another class member)

Of course they are being singled out. They are the only ones who haven't complied with ORR requirements.

I was most impressed with HDL's thumper-not only does it have CDL, but the toilets are all retention types as well. Double winner because whilst waiting in station stops you can both drink beer, and let it out!

So guess they've been told to remove the Mk1's and run a fully compliant rake of mk2's?

French, Chemin de Fer du Nord. Looks 1930's ish to me, but I'm no expert on French rolling stock.

We're back to the aforementioned seismic change in a whole raft of areas not directly railway.

For all we know, they have submitted a viable timetable to fit CDL to the mk1's, and have put this method of operation forward to ORR as an interim solution that is more robust in terms of managing risk due to door incidents than using stewards in each vestibule. Where they stand in allowing passenger access to mk1's with all doors locked I don't know. What would happen in BR days if for some reason all external doors had to be locked OOU on a carriage in the centre of a rake? Would the carriage be failed and pulled from the rake at the first opportunity?

That's an indisputable fact-but it's not a reason for not having them. A reason for not having headlamps on steam locos would be that they weren't considered necessary, as the progress of steam motive power tends to be more audible and visible in the form of clouds of exhaust. A headlight would not need to be a high intensity sealed beam, just something that would make a decent substitute for a full yellow end-which would not be the most practical colour for a smoke box!

I like the idea of a Brit in BR blue with stainless steel arrows on the tender, brown smoke box and underframes, yellow bufferbeam, train reporting number box in the front footplate. However, I'd be tempted to give them brown & grey lining as well- a single stripe of brown with a thinner stripe of grey either side. In my AU, BR inter city stock would be in the red & blue that the Research Department stock carried-I always thought this looked far smarter than blue & grey. If going for electric lighting though, why not fit a sealed beam headlamp at the front, as well?

Fascinating, looks like an exhibition train. Mk2b(?) M3168, Mk1 DW150353.

Last line translates to something like "The BR1 bogie was famous for poor ride quality!"