Kenton

  No. Do you have a mental age of a 5 year old? I don't really think that even though you clearly show the same level of comprehension with that remark. So what have we proved with that little exchange? A forum is no place for insult throwing. Back to the kit. Resin has two major drawbacks It cannot be soldered, and there is no weight to it. In addition to the impression of it producing dulled detail. I don't accept the argument that forming brass is not up to the ability of an "average" modeller. Firstly the chassis is not in that class and secondly who is this "average" with the dumbed down talent and for who the kit was designed. Making a pattern for casting is a skill, I have not suggested otherwise. However the material selected metal or resin makes little difference you require a master to make either. I am afraid it remains my opinion that the detail in the resin version is no improvement over that which could be obtained in cast and with, undoubtedly more effort and skill on the part of designer and modeller, brass. My opinion applies to resin in any kit and no doubt there are many modellers out there who love the idea of gluing metal kits together - OK this is one for them. I am afraid I don't so although I was really impressed with the elegance of the chassis and rather like the prototype I'm afraid this is one kit I shall be avoiding. Probably no loss to many there are plenty of others who do not have such principles and will happily build a metal kit with glue.

The Type 27 was light enough for a gang of 2 to lift and frequently was (although it had a reverse gear it was easier to drive any distance forward.) Likely to be an N gauge mechanism but just what has it to pull? Other than maybe a trolley - are we even sure that one will be included? Still no actual details posted AFAICS

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Well probably lost one as a result but may well have gained many others from the glue it all together camp. I am in agreement, in part, with you that forming louvres from brass sheet would be difficult (though not impossible and there are harder tasks) but have seen them well represented by half etched sheets. The problem with arguing that a resin cast is more difficult than a whitemetal one is lost on me. In terms of detail the metal one is going to be crisper and at least it can be soldered on. This is no beginner kit - as seen by the chassis construction. Reducing the body to that level without similar compromise of the chassis just seems perverse. As if the designer just gave up on the job and took an easy route out to launch the kit.

Many were also completely enclosed so could be considered as a small van. Many variants were produced by Wickham but the basic Type 27 is perhaps the most iconic.

Besides it has been spoiled by the use of more resin. I just do not understand the cop out from an otherwise very intricate chassis built in brass to that lump of uncertain detail where a brass etch or two could have provided much crisper detail. Even a white metal cast would have been better and at least contributed some weight. I must admit to having "gone off" this kit entirely. A complete let down AFAIC.

As those who have built the kits know too well - the biggest problem with these is traction (ie getting sufficient weight into what is an open platform) I sincerely hope that they will not be making this of plastic. The motor is an important part of the weight - if you can find one small enough to fit and to propel anything. In addition, there is a real issue with keeping these very small (and they are small - think N scale wagon) on the track let alone through points - potentially dead frog points.

Count the "northlights" for that last shot, I don't think they add up. But also remember that the extra 2 roads were "added" and the extra structure may well not have been to the same standard as the original 4. Also the structure of the northlights appears different and of brick. I believe the "beams" were left protruding like that (on a number of sheds) for integrity of the roof. Internally they may well have been used to support heavy lifting gear.

A good idea - along with the spare tiny bits that always seem to ping as they are removed. So often there is wasted space on the fret that could be put to good use by a simple copy & paste in the CAD. Of course if you use a press like the GW one you don't need to practise

Perhaps the truth is that the topic should have been split (easy to say and not to do - and yes I've changed my mind. The key here is that the topic is rather special and where that has been factual to the "Washout at Dawlish" it has been very good and of great interest to all. The trouble is that much of the content has deviated into other amusing comment and has gained a life of its own usually reserved for Wheeltappers. I sympathise with the Mods in trying to keep it on topic yet on the other hand dislike the censorship that is taking place in an almost haphazard fashion. But it is now over 40 pages - and like most I wouldn't wish to be starting now from page 1 and wading through it all just to find the latest news. I don't recall a topic that has gained as much attention on RMWeb - and perhaps when it has all died down a rethink on how this sort of topic could be better managed? As most know I am fervently against censorship in any form and besides I have never liked the unknown "them" and public "us" applying rules of thumb rather than the clear rules we have signed up for. Eliminating a few off topic posts for being "clutter" has never been the way. Especially when it leave other topics in the same discussion in clear disjointed sight yet uncensored.

Nothing new there then.... Nothing else happening other than BAFTAs, Olympics, Football, Syria and Thames Flooding. Despite the advent of a roaming reporter, I think it has become apparent in how little they move from the designated spot on a flooded road/beach/bridge. If they wandered around a little more the wider extent of the "event" could be appreciated.

Oh good! Time to get the deck chairs out on Dawlish beach to watch the funny men in orange throwing stones around I have very little faith in the Met Office - though at least they are closer to the weather now they are no longer in Bracknell where looking out of the window might have produced better results than staring at their expensive computer predictions.

I don't think that would be a problem - I don't think it is proposed to have the curves as storage, just the straight tracks - So nothing to swipe. The minimum radius would also not be a problem appearance is not an issue it all comes down to being able to negotiate them (so there may be a need to exclude 0-8-0 and big locos from using those tracks. The one big advantage is the traverser directional movement, the lengthwise movement being easier to control than horizontal due to the weight distribution.

I didn't know one was being proposed. Typical I guess! I have at least one to build.

There is something rather reassuring about workers just getting on with a task at hand despite of (or blissfully unaware) all the fuss from outsiders. Stay safe and batten everything down for the forecast winds tomorrow.

A me2 post, having been down to see for myself the hype of the flooding in Somerset and Dorset. The conclusion being: yes things really are quite bad but you really do have to stand on a hill to actually see it - it affects people but not really many in the whole scheme of things. A local crisis but well and truly over-egged. But it was a nice trip out into the countryside and an excuse to don the wellys. I return on Monday afternoon to the more important but still managed crisis of the Thames. It has taken me all day to catch up on this topic. One of the more interesting discussions for a long time. Dawlish it seems, and without any surprises at all, is being competently managed by the experts at NR. Thanks to CK and others for all the facts on the ground.

I was simply going to disagree but that might have been misconstrued as personal. The topic has almost from the start not been about the event at Dawlish or its almost certain return to normality in a number of weeks. Much of it has been about hair-brained alternative route schemes that thankfully have very little hope of being considered or even financed. That discussion has been interesting though and is just as relevant as discussion on road improvement or other disasters. Much of the OT comment has been about bringing some perspective to the debate. In national terms relatively few are affected, though I think we can all see that if you are one of those few it can seem some gargantuan event.

  Better still do something creative and add to the position that Cornwall has as a destination for surfers. Something like the artificial reef off of Bournemouth beach. At least that would have a return on investment for the Dawlish locals.

I think the point that some are trying to make is that it is not just the south west and poor old Cornwall Devon and Somerset that are suffering or even Wales. The rest of the country is having/has had problems too. It is just that the media has currently focused on these locations. The railway (unsurprisingly we are interested in that as a forum) will get fixed, money will be spent to fix it, it will take some unspecified (at the moment) time to fix and it will remain no big deal to the rest of the country.

I do question where these folk get their pie in the sky figures from. Are they simply all setting out their positions for some compensation handout from the government. The same sort of cry for unsubstantiated loss compensation is being heard from the Somerset constituencies. Most businesses should have in place contingency plans especially for their "exports" to the rest of the UK (if they don't then that is their bad disaster recovery planning) That may well mean more road traffic and slower journeys but it is not unworkable for the relatively short period. I also have little sympathy for the commuter up to London as this is part of what should have been considered during the decision to rely on such a long commute. All part of the upside/downside of living a long way from your place of work. The only industry that is really suffering is tourism, and there are insurances and tax breaks that can be used to mitigate that loss. If it is only going to take 6-8 weeks to have the line up and running again (I believe that is possible) then that is not really such a bad thing in the "end-of-the-world" scenario that seems to be painted by the media.

Also not wishing to sound pedantic, but Dorset has many long dual carriageways (Bournmouth/Ringwood even the Bere Regis/Puddletown bypass A31) and many of the other routes are new and wider upgraded single carriageways. Much of the problem with the road network in Devon and even more so in Cornwall are the narrow and winding roads. This is probably a combination of lack of investment and resistance by locals over many decades. We have to remember that Cornwall is a dead-end on any transport network, a road or rail journey to nowhere. Anyone going that way has to have the single minded purpose to want to go there (or escape) it will never have passing traffic like Watford.

I cannot remember at the present though most of the opening/closure dates were from documents. Your details about the accidental destruction seems to ring a bell. The information I had was official closure of the shed 2 Oct 1964 (where the 27 month comes from) though your date of 24 May 1864 for the incident clearly could account for the "demolition". I agree with the timber construction rather than brick. - "It was a timber built 1 track straight through shed with a gable style slate roof adjoining the station trainshed.". The combined information makes me wonder if the incident might not have been within the engine shed but actually the "trainshed" (structure over the platform which being a terminus may well have had a brick end wall. It seems odd that there was any back wall to a through shed! The destruction of that end wall could well have rendered the wooden edifice unsafe and the complete redesign/rebuild of the station without the engine shed followed sooner rather than later?

Who didn't read the post I quoted? Because if you had you would be agreeing with me. That is why there is a national pot of money and the politician elected to distribute it (in some arbitrary fair manner. Of course we all have concern over where the money is spent and what should take priority and if it is spent wisely and not wasted on some hair-brained local scheme. The problem has always been that very few decisions are made with long term in mind. They only want the headline of the quick fix during election periods.