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    Bachmann Bulleid Coaches

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    9 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

     

    That's because that's what they are.

     

    These were unreleased Airfix models. They were in the background in one of the Airfix catalogues.

     

    http://www.airfixrailways.co.uk/CatTeasers.htm

     

    Acquired by Mainline, but Mainline also disappeared before they were finished. 

     

     

    Jason

     

    Pedantic mode (On) :- The 1979 Airfix catalouge snippet shows a Bulleid  CK with 10" deep window ventilators, whereas the Bachmann versions are based on the BR(S) built stock which had 15" deep sliding vents. Pedantic mode (Off).

     

    More here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/16850-new-batch-of-bulleid-coaches/

     

    All the best.

     

    BR A4 Experimental Blue 1948-51

    in Hornby

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    Hi

     

    If any of you get the opportunity, have a look at the colour swatches contained within the HMRS publication "Southern Style After Nationalisation, 1948-1964" by John Harvey.
    You'll see that the swatch for 'BR Express Locomotive Blue (Merchant Navy class)' is of a much darker hue. 
    Azure Blue it ain't.  It's more akin to RAL 5013, Cobalt Blue.      This is the colour that I remember.

     

    Also the lining on the Blue MNs was 'Bold'. I.e. 1/4" White + 1 1/4" Black + 1/4". No gaps.

    Initially, during the experimental stages on MN No. 35024 East Asiatic Company , this lining was positioned over the top of the upper and lower Red stripes with the centre stripe deleted / painted over with Blue. During the next stage the upper lining was lowered to run beneath the lowest firebox sides' washout plugs and the lower lining raised approx two inches to avoid the row of casing fasteners

     

    The late Brian Haresnape describes the 'BR Experimental Blue' colour as 'Dark Blue' A4 pic. of 60028, seen above, on page 25 of his  book 'Railway Liveries BR Steam 1948=1968'. Other descriptions, in the same book range from 'Deep ultramarine blue' in several paragraphs. To quote another on p. 26 :- "The dark blue locomotive livery (an almost purple shade on some ER pacifics) just darkened down to become almost black". The 1949 red lined blue scheme of MN No.35024 is described as 'bizarre', Also noted are suggestions that the blue should be lightened, Caledonian blue, both light and dark for example, are mentioned in the text.

    Moving on to the 1949 approved / standard liveries, a paragraph on p. 30 quotes :- "So the colour was modified to a more medium shade -- using Bulleid 'Merchant Navy' Pacific No. 35024 as the guinea pig. (This locomotive underwent three repaints in different shades of blue inside one year !)

    Result = 'Medium Blue'

     

    Now, if that colour swatch is Medium Blue, it begs the question, How dark was Deep Ultramarine Blue ??

     

    I reckon Golden Age Models capture the colours the closest.

     

    sr-merchant-navy-banner-ipad0003.jpg.085a289b028094d7a495e7f14e5d2b6b.jpg

     

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    Although Graham Farish beat them to it in 00 guage, seventy years ago.

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    BR A4 Experimental Blue 1948-51

    in Hornby

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    On 12/05/2020 at 04:12, robmcg said:

    here is part of p.57 of Rail Liveries Volume 3 

     

    60028_A4_Image1.jpg.148fe15ef9d41e6f1983d45f31f1e835.jpg

     

    The lining on the A4 seems less prominent than in my guessimate, but who know?

     

    Cheers

     

    The A4's boiler band lining in that photo is Black + White. Probably that's the reason.

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    Level crossing gates designs

    in UK Prototype Questions

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    Blandford1969 & ikcdab,

    I reckon the drawing you're thinking of is the one of 'S.R. Proposed Standard Level Crossing Gates' on pages 72 / 73 of Irwell Press's 'Southern Nouveau and the Lineside'.

    It shows, with main dimensions, one pair of a set of quad gates, (Targets split centrally). These are depicted as two bay with 'X' internal bracing. The horizontals being parallel.

    The accompanying photo of the gates at Wrafton (On the Barnstaple to Ilfracombe line) appear to show the horizontals as being tapered, as are / were the L.S.W.R. / S.R. gates modelled by M.S.E. / Wizard.

     

    P.S.

    The diagram in G. A. Pryor's 'A Pictorial Record of Southern Signals' p.178, describes the mechanical rodding / crank connections for a  wheel operated, double line, four gated crossing.

     

    All the best.

    Frank.

    The Bournemouth West Model Railway Group / Now known as The South Coast Model Railway Development Group / TSCMRDG

    in Layout topics

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    2 hours ago, Roger Sunderland said:

    Good to hear from you Frank. Hope you are keeping well during these difficult times.

     

    Hi Roger and the Rest of the Crew. 

    Many thanks for your message. Likewise with the greetings, reciprocated from this end, too.

    What a year, eh ?. Turn your back for a couple of seconds and 'It' all goes haywire.

     

    I had my driving licence revoked at the beginning of the year (Failed medical, re-apply in 6 months ?) and now 'Confined to Barracks' since mid-March for 12 weeks (Classed as Covid-19 vulnerable person) ........ Who's that shouting "Get in, out of the daylight,...You coffin dodger" ? :D

     

    I'm keeping an irregular eye open for any B'm'th area (West, Central, Boscombe, Pokesdown or otherwise) infrastructure plans that might become available through Network Rail's archive. Hopefully, something will turn up regarding West station's Signal Box. ( I'm still awaiting Hornby's Express blue original MN ! )

     

    Looking forward to meeting up with you all once again, soon.

    All the very Best,

    Frank.

     

     

     

     

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    The Bournemouth West Model Railway Group / Now known as The South Coast Model Railway Development Group / TSCMRDG

    in Layout topics

    Posted · Edited by Ceptic
    Found an existing thread.

    On 12/10/2018 at 16:11, Ceptic said:

    An interesting artifact has recently come to light over on Network Rail's  'Mediastorehouse' archive site.

    It shows the Poole and Bournemouth Railway's drawn elevations of both Parkstone  (South / Platform side and West Elevation) and Bournemouth (Later Bournemouth West) Station Approach (South) side.

     

    I'm guessing the date of c.1898 is a 'cover-all' date as the, now, 'West' station would have been extended and improved by then,1889 in fact. The drawing shows the original 1874 building.

     

    https://nr.mediastorehouse.com/stations/parkstone-station/poole-bournmouth-railway-parkstone-bournemouth-11883779.html

     

    Regards,

    Frank.

     

    A shade off topic*, but of interest, Network Rail's archive site catalogue has recently been expanded to include many more plans of railway structures, including several showing those of the 1884/5 Bournemouth East (Central) building. Also included are those for the Central's 1928 Extension / Improvements. (No sign of any relating to those of the West station's tho').

    https://nr.printstoreonline.com/stations/bournemouth-central/sr-bournemouth-central-new-exit-platform-1928-19594263.html?prodid=73045

     

    Also available from  Pinterest

    https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/479492691580106489/sent/?invite_code=ef63ebfbe4ff4a53b4088786d91340d9&sender=597501212971193139&sfo=1

     

    * In case no one has picked up on the expansion of NR's Archive / Printstore library, I'll bump an existing thread in 'Modelling Questions, Help and Tips'.

     

    Regards,

    Frank.

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