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2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Wow! Takes me back to the 70s!

Are you thinking of the exhibitions at George Heriot’s school?  I.e. not George Watson’s?

Thanks, I understand what you are saying.  
 

Presumably then the Bill Bedford W irons need altered to reduce that gap, if modelling an empty wagon?  
 

As I said, it was just something that caught my eye in your earlier picture - one of those things you can’t unsee when you’ve seen it!

Well done with your persistence to produce accurate models of these vehicles!

Perhaps it is the angle of the photograph but that looks like an overly large gap between the bottom of the axle box and the tie between the two arms of the W-iron?   The axle box tiebar in turn looks low, not that far above rail level?  (Apologies if I have some of the terminology wrong).

I looked back through the thread at your pictures of your iron ore tipplers, where these points didn’t seem to be issues, and also had a quick look at what I think is the prototype being modelled on Paul Bartletts website:

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brironorehoppersmall

4 hours ago, spamcan61 said:

Clear from the image here there are just recesses in the cab rear where the windows should be:-

https://www.hattons.co.uk/619181/hornby_r3894_ruston_88ds_4wdm_diesel_shunter_north_british_distillery_ltd_as_preserved/stockdetail

It does say “as preserved”!

A link for those who might be interested:

https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/kr-models?q=class 40
 

I assume the images on there are still just renders?

What caught my eye was the depth of the springs, i.e. how much they protrude from the bogie side frame.  Looks a bit excessive at first glance but no doubt it’s still a work in progress!

Finescale P4/S4 exhibition model railway layout "CHISLEDON" for sale at auction next week. 

Not really sure where the best place to post this was on RMweb but thought here might be most the likely for this to be seen by those who might be interested, or know someone who might be!

For sale here (Lot 305):

https://auctions.gcrauctions.com/catalogue/lot/d4da10c5ec26c2ba0e5f3169f7cbe101/61ad83272971a65b1b45f1d4d620c5f8/auction-of-general-railwayana-a-wide-selection-someth-lot-305/

Auctioneers description:

"P4/S4 exhibition model railway layout "CHISLEDON" built by Dave Barrett, MSWJR, two 4' boards modelled to an exceptionally high standard being a medal winning layout in its exhibition time in the early 2000s, complete with rolling stock, modelled signal cable & point runs, appears on the P4 Club website, Pendon standard, dust free."

I've no personal interest in this; just thought it looked like it might be something that would appeal to someone.

44 minutes ago, 21D said:

 

Saw the palvans on display at Ally Pally and very good they looked.

Bachmann should have released one of these beasties! The GW Mink A converted into Pallet vans by BR. If the BR version on a 10 foot chassis were unstable then these vans on a 9 foot wheelbase  must have run like a pig on roller-skates!

 They appear to have congregated with the later BR Palvans at Kirkcudbright station loaded with munitions for the nearby military ranges at Dundrennan. The mind fairly boggles at the thought of all these pallet vans loaded with tank shells oscillating between Kineton CAD in Warwickshire and the south of Scotland!

Prototype photo from my copy of Dave Larkin’s excellent book of ‘Pre-nationalisation freight wagons on BR’, which I hope he won’t mind me reproducing here.

I built one from a chopped up Keyser/K’s GWR Meat van kit some while ago but never painted it.

Regards

Martin

 

I have an interest in these vans although pictures of them are pretty scarce!  
 

Have you a source for the information about what they carried, as I’m pretty sure I’ve never read that before?

22 minutes ago, arran said:

as i said before but you didnt see it , Its £3.00 all day at the science center and its about the same distance 

It’s only £3 if you are a visitor to the Science Centre.  Otherwise it’s £8.50 for up to 9 hours.  Full details for others here: https://www.glasgowsciencecentre.org/visit/parking  Although not sure I should increase awareness of it; I might end up not being able to get a space!

1 hour ago, JIJ said:

 

Immediately prior to, and during early presentation, one of either coaches 1&2 was a maroon colour, the others were the "classic" red and brown (described by L.T.C. Rolt in railway adventure and the maroon coach clearly visible in "railway with a heart of gold"). The addition of the Numbers and crests to the coaches is described in railway adventure, along with cleaning and varnishing. I suspect that the maroon coach was painted around 1946 as a last ditch attempt at attracting tourist traffic after the mine closed (in the 1930s photographs, the carriages appear to be homogeneous in livery) but other than than, I can't imagine that the railway, "running on a shoestring budget" would have spent the money on fully repainting all of the coaches during Sir Haydn's ownership.

 

Edit: flicking through "the talyllyn railway, past and present" by Mitchell and Eyres, there is a photograph from 1948 with the coaches again appearing to all be in the same livery. An open door on one of the coaches shows that lining was present, but it appears to be simpler than the lining seen in preservation, with round corners and only a single colour. The open door also has a number 1 on it, one assumes this is to designate first class

early preservation?

The Glasgow and South Western Association should be worth joining, if you are not already a member.

http://www.gswra.org

On 24/12/2023 at 21:15, RetiredBod said:

Merry Christmas from the Quorn Wagon & Wagon team.

 

Here's the update for this week, including the completion of the restoration work on tank A6090:

 

https://quornwagonandwagon.co.uk/2023/12/24/24-12-23-merry-christmas/

 

Thanks for resuming on here the links to the updates.  Keep up the good work.

On 15/12/2023 at 12:59, Citadel said:

Quick question, what thickness of cork sheet is recommended and any guidance about glues to use etc.  have read somewhere that PVA soaks into the voids and reduces the sound deadening properties once it dries.

 

A very long time ago I seem to recall using cork tile adhesive to stick cork to baseboards.  Memory says it was a sort of rubbery adhesive.  If so that perhaps helps with sound deadening?

 I see that such adhesives are still available.

2 hours ago, Citadel said:

 

Thank you so much for this, really appreciate it.  The layout you and the team have had a major hand in building / co-ordinating is truly inspirational both in its scale and quality of modelling.  To have references such as this and the amazing 2mm finescale version of York is a bit daunting really - I'll just have to try my best..

 

I do a fair bit of cycling, not sure if you have ever come across a guy called Graham Obree.  He was a track cyclist at the same time as Chris Boardman but very much the establishment anti-hero - no Lotus carbon bikes, more something he'd made himself using parts from his wife's washing machine.  Towards the end of his career he couldn't really cope with loss of competitiveness and suffered from mental health issues and depression, actually trying to take his life on a couple of occasions.  He gave a talk in Dumfries and was asked why, when he had achieved everything he had in his career, he couldn't just sit back and enjoy it.  His response was that he'd had that attitude he would have never achieved what he had in the first place and that his advice to us was that 'happiness has nothing to do with the situation you find yourself in, simply where it sits versus your expectations'.  For sure I'm trying to set my expectations at an appropriate level given my experience!

Is there an “if” missing near the start of the penultimate sentence?  Should it start “His response was that if he’d had …..”?  

22 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

Rails of Sheffield seem to be running their daily Advent calendar.

 

Today's offering is the Heljan 4mm NB 10800, for £179.99. No idea if that's good value or not.

 

John.

Seems to be £179.95 for all versions today, except weathered.  So maybe wasn’t much of a bargain yesterday?

Doesn't seem to be a topic for this?

Details here:
https://www.renfrewshiremrc.co.uk/paisleyshow.html

35 layouts listed, including Blair Atholl in OO.  "The" Blair Atholl layout, presumably?  I saw somewhere that it was being extensively refurbished.  That alone an attraction.

12 traders.

On 19/11/2023 at 18:07, ColinK said:

Well I did make it today, despite my van refusing to start this morning.  80 mile trip each way but well worth it.  Nice variety of layouts, most being in the inspiring  ‘I can make something like that’.  Friendly and welcoming, spent far too much, mainly stocking up with glue, paint and tools from Squires.  Had a pleasant chat with the operators on a couple of micro layouts.  The layout I liked the best was the one based on the Barton-on-Humber branch.  Scary m0ment when a chap on the public side picked up one of the locos, I thought he was one of the operators but he was a visitor, very well sorted by the operator.

Where's the exclamation mark response for the last bit!

2 hours ago, Chris-ECT said:

Hi Michael, our weathering and repairs guy is an EM modeller and as such has had an input into the design and mech side of the model. The axles are spec'd at 3mm to allow Alan Gibson or similar to be fitted in place. Neil will be converting one of the pre-production samples as and when they start to arrive. Hope this helps? 

Aren't Gibson OO and EM wheels the same though, just with alternative axle lengths?  If so I would hope that a conversion to EM wouldn't need new wheels, just longer axles. 

Perhaps complicated by the wheel/axle interface - I think some wheels might now come on stub axles? 

Apologies if any of this wrong!

I think you need to look for a hollow punch.  Seem to be available in sets pretty cheaply but probably in mm.

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/historic-test-train-gets-new-lease-of-life-in-fife?fbclid=IwAR07qo5yjA-xNejJXwrNPs5Oj0Mro238RUGHMCohZfpXqrd0RVtAxnpQHEQ

Now in Fife, judging by online pictures.

4 hours ago, Daddyman said:

Peco have recently introduced kits of West Highland buildings too. Theirs is based on Arisaig: https://railsofsheffield.com/products/peco-lk-203-west-highland-railway-station-building 

It seems to be wooden too - which might explain the dodgy-looking joint at the front of the bay window... though the windows themselves look good. There's a signal box too and, I think, a platform shelter.

 

End of interruption, Kylestrome!  

A thread here:

14 minutes ago, lezz01 said:

It would have been nice if you had listed the EM stuff here as well Tony as we aren't all going to the expo. It's way too far from where I am.

Regards Lez. 

A list of EM gauge GWR locos posted on previous page.  Hopefully this link is directly to the specific post:

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

SNIPPED

The show was very well-attended, and I managed to sell quite a number of the GWR/PO rolling stock items I mentioned in an earlier post. Most of these were built in EM (which means they're much more difficult to sell). No matter, I just re-gauged them to OO (heresy to some, I know), and then they fairly flew! 

 

The stumbling block to many sales was the fact that the items of rolling stock had either screw-link, three-link or Sprat & Winkle couplings. Those built from kits had them at source, of course, but those items which were modified RTR had had the tension-lock mounts lopped off (good; very good as far as I'm concerned!). This caused great dismay among many potential customers (even though I was selling most of the wagons at only a fiver each), resulting in their turning away. I said it would be easy to fix tension-locks (I even had some for sale), but no. No good! Is the level of skill so poor with some 'modellers' that the fixing-on of something as simple as (ghastly) tension-locks is beyond them?  

 

I'll be going through the rest of the (mainly GWR EM) items in the next few days, both locos and stock, assessing them and offering them for sale on here - proceeds to a good cause and also CRUK. Please, watch this space. 

 

Thanks in anticipation. 

If you know a member of the EM Gauge Society and they are attending the ExpoEM Summer 2023 at Wakefield this coming weekend perhaps they could take the EM gauge items you have and offer them for sale via the members sale facility?  They might potentially find appreciative buyers there.  If not then at least you have tried, and perhaps saved your time changing wheelsets etc.  Just a thought!

Link to the relevant thread on here:

13 hours ago, locoholic said:

Just to advise anyone who wanted to order the Footplate Models limited edition brewery loco and was told by their website that it was sold out, to try again, as they've upped the number available for sale.

It's not easy to find on their website - I had to search for "Hawthorn" and it was towards the bottom of the search results.

This, hopefully, might be a direct link to it:

https://footplate.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=512_529&products_id=8123

Not exactly promoting it on their website!

57 minutes ago, Dava said:

It’s not the Little Loco Co. Project revived? 
 

Dava

Responses to queries along these lines on Heljan’s Facebook posting about this, from Heljan themselves, say it is all new tooling.

4 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

You mean the tender?

 

Water scoop and apparatus.

Brakes and brake gear. 

Sieve Box.

 

Quite a lot going on under there. Click on the diagrams here.

 

https://www.brassmasters.co.uk/StaniertenderInstns.htm

 

 

 

 

Jason

Sorry, yes missed out the important tender word!  
 

I appreciate that there is the water scoop and brake gear behind the frames but it all looks rather “solid”, appreciating it is in shadow.  I wondered if it was a sort of continuation of the electrical connection with the locomotive, as that is at that sort of underfloor level.  Anyway, just idle thoughts!