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57 minutes ago, Dava said:

It’s not the Little Loco Co. Project revived? 
 

Dava

Responses to queries along these lines on Heljan’s Facebook posting about this, from Heljan themselves, say it is all new tooling.

4 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

You mean the tender?

 

Water scoop and apparatus.

Brakes and brake gear. 

Sieve Box.

 

Quite a lot going on under there. Click on the diagrams here.

 

https://www.brassmasters.co.uk/StaniertenderInstns.htm

 

 

 

 

Jason

Sorry, yes missed out the important tender word!  
 

I appreciate that there is the water scoop and brake gear behind the frames but it all looks rather “solid”, appreciating it is in shadow.  I wondered if it was a sort of continuation of the electrical connection with the locomotive, as that is at that sort of underfloor level.  Anyway, just idle thoughts!

In the "side on" shot there looks to be an awful lot going on behind the arched holes between the axleboxes.  Should there be more daylight there?

Your Thirsk link just seems to take you back to the top of this page!?  (Tried on both ipad and PC).

There's a topic in the exhibitions section:

And from that there is this link:
http://www.expo-thirsk.co.uk/blog/

Hope this helps a few attend!

The notches in the buffer beams to accommodate the coupling seems unfortunate, but look to be because the bottom of the buffer beam is lower than normal most engines and stock.
 

@That Model Railway Guy post of 17th May suggests the buffer beams are part of a larger diecast part for the footplate etc.

3 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

None of us have seen what they are doing, nor what era they are describing as BR. They have generously (far more than other companies!) paid me for a couple of photos that I understand they intend (intended) to use in their catalogue. I've not seen what they have published. I do think it very unfortunate that such an interesting wagon, which appears to have been very well modelled from the deconstructed photo, is being dismissed so readily. The finish of these wagons varied considerably down the years, especially as some workshops would consider the solebar to be the body and others the frame and there have been periods when these parts could be different colours, and others when they were the same - the first few years of departmental black. There are a lot of other BR era wagons where it was a local choice if the solebar was body or frame colour. 

 

Paul

The Hornby website information for all variations proposed uses the same image of yours for each one and acknowledges its source, see:

https://uk.Hornby.com/catalogue/train-sets-rolling-stock/wagons-wagon-packs?langPath=Hornby-uk&filters[Gauge]=OO&filters[min_price]=0&filters[max_price]=84.99&filters[Pre-Order]=true&filters[Brand]=&filters[Scale]=&filters[UK Era]=&filters[Website Exclusive]=&filters[mandatory_filter_by][product_br_category]=br-wagons-wagon-packs&page_id=320&sort_by=5&page=2&inputValueChanged=filters[Pre-Order]
 

The “tech specs” under each version gives some livery information.  The earliest one is given as LMS grey, the oldest one as BR departmental and the others as BR grey.  Given these aren’t going to be here until next year I suspect some of this information is just a work in progress!

Hi.

Can the organisers clarify if there are now parking charges at the Dewars Centre when the exhibition is on?  Their website suggest that there might be:

https://www.liveactive.co.uk/Venues/dewars-centre

Queen of Scots Pullman - started from Glasgow Queen Street, rather than Glasgow central?

On 26/05/2023 at 19:35, JonathonAG said:

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but does anybody know where still sells the Stevenson TPO/POS kits?

A quick search on Google suggests Squires took on this range.  I don’t know if that is still the case or not.

On 23/05/2023 at 00:04, RichardT said:

Also available for pre-publication order on hive.co.uk at a small discount - the site also allows you to support independent bookshops with your order (at no cost to you):

https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Clive-Carter/LNER-Passenger-Trains-and-Formations-Volume-II--1923-1967/17414776

 

RichardT

Thanks for the link to hive.co.uk.  I wasn’t aware of them previously.

5 hours ago, brylonscamel said:

Yes, the batten construction was something I was aware of and I did fudge, partly due to our budget.

Nigel's version of Thurso coincides with the last days of the shed and I struggled with a test piece to get the combination of repaired and original battens, which remained a feature of the shed.

The layout is quite big and has broad sweeps of landscape so the overall proportions, colour and weathering of the shed should be enough to capture the spirit of the building.

The context you describe helps understanding of the choices made.  Looking at the Highland Council pictures of the Brora shed it is surprising how small the cross section of the battens are/were, and that they are more semi-circular than square cornered.

Excellent model making, but I think the sides on the real thing are/were “board and batten” construction?   i.e. where the joins between boards are covered with a small batten.  For example, some of the pictures of Brora goods shed here show this in close up:

https://her.highland.gov.uk/monument/MHG32875
 

Of course, you might already be aware of this!

7 hours ago, franciswilliamwebb said:

On a more positive note, anyone with a copy of Rear & Jones’ “The Llangollen Line Ruabon to Barmouth” (Book Law/Foxline) should gave a gander at Plate 82.

 

This inspirational shot shows 4 of these wagons parked in a headshunt at Trevor, at the end of a gated private siding to the nearby Roberts & McGinis’s brick works.  Looks ideal for a bit of exchange shunting on a model railway 😎

 

Update: The same image appears on the Wrexham History website:

Not exactly the same wagons, by the look of the first one, but good find anyway for the general principle.  For those wanting a bit more inspiration from this picture see this OS mapping:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.8&lat=52.97419&lon=-3.09397&layers=168&b=1

Sorry for thread drift!

8 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Would be nice to know what livery each option came in ! 🙄

Reading the OTT blurb it sounds like only available in GWR livery.

A specific thread for the GN Quad arts is here:

£7.92 for a pack of three seems pretty reasonable.  However, the brick load is higher than the wagon sides, which seems a bit unlikely to me?

15 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Not in my modelling lifetime - discontinued before c. 1980!

Thanks.  Was aware that it hadn’t been available for a while but hadn’t appreciated it was that long!  No wonder one has never got into my kit pile before now.

@Hattons Dave Hi.  Will these, and other newly announced production runs of previous models, be available through the model shops that stock your own brand models?  In the interests of supporting my local shop etc.  Thanks.

Thanks for information.  I did wonder why the Open C wasn’t listed in the list of Ratio kits in the Morgan Designs PDF but assumed it was because it was no longer in production, or hasn’t been for some time, I don’t think.  

5 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Some really nice kits you're working on, and so neatly built as always.

 

I hadn't heard about the Morgan kits, looks like a good benefit from Scalefour society membership. Must see if I can find a list of the range.

 

Having recently found a Ratio Open C to add to the kit stock I was interested in the comments about the Morgan Designs chassis kit for it.  With some online searching I found this page on the Scalefour Society stores page (meant to be members only?) which lists them:

https://www.scalefour.org/members/stores/shops.php
 

A very long information and instruction PDF for them is also available to download here:

https://www.scalefour.org/resources/downloads

7 hours ago, Steve Hewitt said:

 

 

And we have a plan..........

 

 

 

More soon I hope, if we continue to progress.......................

 

Steve

 

That’s a lot of baseboards just for the scenic part!

On 04/02/2023 at 15:36, Bill Jamieson said:

Although it doesn't answer your query in terms of books, and you may be aware of it already, the National Library of Scotland maps website covers the whole of the country at 25 inches to the mile. While the newest mapping is no more recent than the 1930s or '40s, I suspect that track layouts would be substantially unchanged into the 1960s at most locations. As an example, here's the sheet covering Fratton Yard, or at least most of it - Sod's law probably dictates that whatever location one is most interested in will inevitably spread over at least two sheets!

https://maps.nls.uk/view/105989353

Bill

If you use the georeferenced or side by side options on the NLS website then you don’t need to worry about a location being on more than one sheet because these options have all the sheets joined together!  As an example here’s the 25” coverage for part of Edinburgh:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.7&lat=55.93816&lon=-3.24055&layers=168&b=1
 

The most recent detailed mapping in the drop down list is also now something like 1944-1972 at 1:1250 or 1:2500.

Using a slider you can also compare the mapping with, say, recent aerial photography.
 

 All in all hours of distraction!

Hope this helps.

@john new  Might it be worth putting a link to the exhibition website in your footer message?  
 

And, if easily available, web links to pictures and/or videos of the layouts?  Appreciate that is more work but quite a number of the layouts listed don’t sound familiar to me.
 

Just a couple of thoughts to try and help encourage visitors!

A pretty immediate thought was that Iain Rice would love this; I vaguely recall reading a MRJ article by him about the intricacies of the class.  It is therefore good to see in the class history piece that he had some input in to the development of these models.

https://www.accurascale.com/blogs/news/a-bevy-of-buckjumpers-holden-s-r24-and-s56-classes-lner-j67-j69-and-hill-c72-class-lner-j68

Just for reference really, but maybe of interest to those less familiar with the location, this seems to be the best available large scale OS mapping:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.7&lat=55.30830&lon=-3.45897&layers=168&b=8
 

Somewhere fairly recently (last year or two) I saw a picture or two of an unusual BR steam era crane for loco coaling at Beattock shed.  Assuming that is relevant for the period being modelled I’ll try and find them again!