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9 minutes ago, GD said:

I did have intensions of buying 47450, 47555 and 47492

That's a total of 510 locos, you must be a millionaire!

This is very illuminating; I am the proud owner of a pair of Sharks, and thought I should be in the market for a couple more. But it seems that on the Eastern at least, they only hunted in pairs.

In my extrapolation of the universe, these would be notionally allocated to the DCE Edinburgh, so probably at Slateford. It occurs to me now though, that to have any more would be overkill, and bring in another DCE, Carlisle perhaps. They're not cheap from the Hornby aftermarket so this should trim my wants list by a few quid.

14 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

I’ll raise you… I had a conversation the other day about Minitrix and Triang, someone thinking they were still Uk market leaders

Joueff: 'Hold my beer' 

13 minutes ago, E100 said:

I think the primary issue for many ... ... is that a lot already have a recent Bachmann example.

That, simply put, is the nub of it. And by recent, I mean the previous iteration without the tinted windows, whiplash aerial and racing trim.

13 minutes ago, E100 said:

People will therefore be somewhat inclined to stick with one example going forward and in many cases that will be the Bachmann example.

 

I expect people with significant quantities of pre-2022 Bachmann 47s would be highly unlikely to add, even less swap to, the Danish duff.

9 hours ago, hartleymartin said:

Let's say 1950s. But, I suppose it is a good question to ask:

What were typical branch line formations of BR Mk1 Carriages, given that there would be variation by area/region, and over time. Let's say a typical formation for each decade. A 1950s formation, 1960s, formation and 1970s formation?

I've just stumbled across this topic in Latest Posts and am by no means deft in such matters, but I would say as a rule of thumb that in the 1950s, Mk1s were just entering service and as such were concentrated on main line and other premier duties. 

From what little I know about Scottish branch line goings on, in the fifties the stock would be Big Four hand-me-downs, most likely from the two predecessor companies in that area. In the far west, Southern and ex-GW coaches would be on the respective branches.

EDIT to add that Mk1 suburban non-corridor stock may have worked some branch stuff in the fifties, but it's not convincing me TBF.

40 minutes ago, GordonC said:

 

Did the RLOs not have loose seating rather than a normal 2+1 interior?

From memory, and I only travelled on them a handful of times, the saloon such as it was, had a coupé style, with booths, two-seater snugs  and some low backed loose chairs.

I should have a diagram/ seating plan somewhere in the 'Diagram Book' (borrowed from York Works at closure).

EDIT:  The 2007 Combine lists the RLO as having 27 moveable seats, with refurbished vehicles to a new (final?) specification, having some lounge style "sofa" seating. This is how I remember it, so the RLO interiors went through at least two iterations.

That's awesome Bill, and of course it was retimed, I must be going senile - how on earth would Kenneth Gray have obtained all those great shots around Stainton (uploaded on RailScot) during November otherwise!   Also, it would have run in the path of the last 2S52 wouldn't it?

Indeed, one of these photos features D193 on 1S65, and its existence prompted me to include this Blue Full Yellow End Class 46 in my fleet in model form.

As for the pilgrimage to 12A, that's surely the best lecture-free afternoon ever spent. Huge respect, sir!

2 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Pretty standard for Greater Manchester Waste, nice tidy facilities but not necessarily all weather like that.  
 

But gone are the days of picking up nails in your tyres whilst you dump everything into one big hole.

 

Very good options for charitable donations of toys, furniture etc as well for resale.

Agreed, Raikes Lane in Bolton is a good facility. 

33 minutes ago, BrakeCoach said:

Does anyone know about how much the DMUs during the sectorization period, especially for Regional Railways?

 

I am wondering how often they doubled up the 101s, or the newer Sprinters and which went along with which.

I'm not sure that I understand the first question. 

The second part, well, all production series 15X DMUs were designed to inter-work and all except Class 159 were Regional Railways operated, including the 155s when introduced. 

Google a few pictures from 1985 onwards and I'm sure the story will unfold.

Is he the 'softly softly catchee monkey' guy? 

Hopefully this model comes with an Accuraclag generator.

I wonder, was this type of wagon used for the movement/ delivery of things like weaving looms in the UK?

I've seen pictures of such machines on international/ ferry wagons being imported from Europe for delivery, but was there a domestic supply too?

Fantastic to see you back in the loft doing what matters!

I bet it's brisk up on Whinburgh Edge this afternoon, with a hint of sleet and hail from the direction of Slitriggshiel.

I have 25 Crab locos known to have worked over the route.

By the time of the first Locoshed book to hand (1965 edition), only 9 of these remained in service:

42705 at Bolton

42717 Rose Grove

42751 Gorton

42780 Ayr

42793 Stockport 

42800 Ayr

42831 Bury (Newton Heath by 1966)

42901 Stockport and

42905 Bury

Of the others already withdrawn, 42833-36 and 42875-77 are consecutively numbered sequences recorded at Hawick. 

EDIT to add:

Found pictures on Flickr of withdrawn 42834 at Upperby and 42835 at Kingmoor in 1962/63, so there was perhaps a phase when Carlisle allocated Crabs put in the occasional shift on the Waverley. 

Second EDIT : Carlisle sheds had the largest single allocation of the class, with 23 in total.

It certainly appears that some LMR, North Western depots' charges appeared on the route, I suspect they may have worked on double-headed cartrains as well as the through fitted freights.

Crab were rare on the Waverley route but not unknown. You're right in thinking they were LM interlopers and possibly pressed into service by Carlisle if short of St Margaret's power, which also suggests that Hurlford examples could appear as Kingmoor or Canal kick-outs.

I haven't got the records to hand but will provide more analysis as soon as I have.

Great modelling, of course, and the Hornby 2MT is delightful. 

3 hours ago, andrewshimmin said:

For many of us having some things half finished without the rest of what we'd envisaged to go with them is just our whole modelling life...

Fixed that!

2 hours ago, irishmail said:

 

Just look at the Heljan '00' loco's,  quite a range but no coaches for them, and some freight stock.

You've inadvertently destroyed your own position here. The whole point being that Heljan doesn't need to manufacture coaches, those are well served by the major manufacturers, not to mention tens of thousands swilling around the second-hand market. 

Hornby has gone out on a limb, a daring gamble for which I applaud it. But the reluctance of others to invest heavily in this scale before its longevity has been demonstrated is probably prudent.

18 minutes ago, 97406 said:

I'm genuinely up for a decent modern Class 40 and if the KR one turns out good then I'll get a few. Until then the Bachmann one can be lowered and fettled into something decent.

 

I reckon my fleet of Bachmann EE Type 4s are unthreatened at this time.

And TBF, any future time...

Based on their EE Type 3 and Brush Type 4 counterparts not being usurped by latest tooling. It's just not going to happen any more than a switch to TT120 is on the cards.

5 hours ago, MJI said:

Worked the Sturgeons i need have cranes on them.

Sorry? I don't follow.

2 hours ago, 25kV said:

Which only the AL4s managed to get right! 

Some would say it was the only thing right about the AL4s.

2 hours ago, hmrspaul said:

K simply means it is 21ton, and N means it is 24.5t. Used on both hoppers and flat bottom double door minerals. 

 

Paul

Yeah, I realised my error shortly after posting but couldn't get back to edit or delete. Had no idea that the K was a weight identifier.

Every day's a school day hey!

All I observe about that identity is that the K suffix indicates that it's supposed to depict a former private owner wagon that's been taken into capital stock.

As to the actual provenance, I haven't got the book (Rowlands?) to hand just now.

Well one of the most striking must've been at Hawick, where Mansfield Road left the A7 adjacent to the Station pub, and passed beneath the platforms which spanned both it and the river Teviot on the viaduct of that name.

A dozen miles or so away at the rural market town of Newton St Boswells, the A68 burrowed right under the heart of this classic junction station, whose component parts make for a compelling model.

3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

I read the last bit like the old drunk in The Fast Show!

 

 

'The Old Drunk' !!!!

Rowley Birkin QC, young man!

Cars and their occupants in peril according to the 9.0 radio news.