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6 hours ago, The Johnster said:

I believe it is in fact basically the old Hornby Dublo model which Dapol inherited from Wrenn, though they have retooled the chassis and fitted better buffers in the meantime.  Rails’ announcement is about a new production run; the use of the word ‘new’ by the marketing departments of some companies is not always as transparent as it could be… this is not in any sense a new model, and is really over 60 years old…

 

Roof profile and wheelbase are visibly and obviously wrong, as they are on the Ale van that Dapol have developed from this model.   Personally, I’d avoid it, but it will be fine for many customers less concerned with accuracy than me!

 

TTBOMK the only accurate 4mm RTR cattle van is the Hornby Southern Railway model.  The Oxford LNER cattle van is accurate except for the sides, which are mirror-image but should be handed, or the other way around, I forget which now but you only see one side at a time.  Both of Bachmanns’ fall into the generic chassis trap. 

The Oxford version should be handed . Easy enough to correct with some micro strip , they were very cheap when released, and I have a few corrected. Like a lot of Oxford products they are now going up in price on ebay.

Couple of photos of my ancient 1960/70's? Norton J25 when finished on below link. They were on here as well, but they were lost in the software crash.

Like all of the Norton kits I have built, they are all basic, but look ok eventually !! If you need I can measure mine for Boiler diameters  etc.

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1624&hilit=lner+j25&start=1275

I presume this actually relates to the whole of the Hornby Group in general ?. If yes they have simply too may irons in the diminishing fire.

There is no realistic comparison with small companies such as Accurascale etc, they do not  have the overheads of staff wages, far too many ranges,   etc , etc to fund every year like Hornby .

I have no idea how Hornby Group , will ever make a profit, if they ever do?? . All that said all any profit will do,  is pay off a tiny part of the huge losses they have made for many many years. A recipe for ??

Place some plastic tubing over the pick up wires = no short ever again.

Sorry wrong link !!

How about these as examples.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33004522737.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.25.165dw6SKw6SKt8&algo_pvid=71c662cf-443e-49d0-8103-3c457a7d64b5&algo_exp_id=71c662cf-443e-49d0-8103-3c457a7d64b5-12&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!2.32!2.32!!!2.32!2.32!%402103864c17129359065588766ef0a7!66986463567!sea!UK!4235418086!&curPageLogUid=dLCeMCtZ4Mgo&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004242137820.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.107.165dw6SKw6SKt8&algo_pvid=71c662cf-443e-49d0-8103-3c457a7d64b5&algo_exp_id=71c662cf-443e-49d0-8103-3c457a7d64b5-53&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!3.67!2.57!!!26.50!18.55!%402103864c17129359065588766ef0a7!12000028498832970!sea!UK!4235418086!&curPageLogUid=1SpzeRKWqU77&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

There are many more theron

The ones I odered last time , arrived in about two weeks.

33 minutes ago, gr.king said:

Are they Mick? I'm not seeing a comparable strip of 20 single pin plugs there, capable of being cut down into singles, twos, fours etc.  My impression was that for two-pin connectors the total price of the number of connectors needed to equal the Peters Spares item would be greater.  Am I missing an important point?

Pre wired and a lot less hassle. No idea repostage  Peter S always overcharges

A lot cheaper here

https://www.railwayscenics.com/miniature-connectors-c-20_22_341.html

2 hours ago, 45568 said:

Just glancing through EBay, and there is a tranche of early model 8Fs all at 99.50 with free postage, here is a link to one, just look at the seller's other items.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335340550025?epid=1872203085&itmmeta=01HV3PPE8JPYMX2C11NQ3QQT0C&hash=item4e13dab789:g:DLoAAOSwEN5mFRpX&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwFEgj7zJebmFKGbBGSY%2BuTrN8DVvzoypyT9fZsSsFHcMEjdxzG9LLYjllX9PRJ34gMe%2B3aaWPqQL69XUqO4hhChDFaY2qmLO06vOnFuZUdN4mehw%2F7JjRS4ZC76WD4mxJXb6yY9dyDKQ74yfh7jsTbzn3s5Rk%2FzT9nRsZ%2FhLwZixOoEPTi%2BLitmFGP6wMuMROgiaWGBSSxD4n5u0wSXeMlmYixP8o7EJbzd12C53zIRjp%2FepQDN%2FArzMBT2p7ckSlA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8Lk2fbYYw

 

Just realised they are from Gostude no less!

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

 

Must be some real bargains on there !! 🤣

Errrr no !!🙃

Can you confirm the actual quality of the latest sheets?.

The 4mm LNER Loco/Coaches and LNER Lining sheets  from about a year ago I bought were simply awful. Out of register, the lining sheet was by far the worse one of the two sheets. Also poor glue etc.

My last order was refunded (less postage) without even an apology or any admission re the poor effort/quality they were.

I now buy old sheets via ebay when available.

Have a look here. Excellent figures.

https://www.acstadden.co.uk/shop-3

Avoid plastic "detail" no strength and poor detail.

All you need is here, as already said.

https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/lner-diag23.php#donor

Sounds like a new motor

Bachmann do spares if needed

https://Bachmann-spares.co.uk/category/2-branchline-steam-parts/3f-jinty/chassis

4 hours ago, DCB said:

Crud collectors,  I had some and they corroded, went white.   Mine were narrow  "scale"  00 wheels with underscale treads which didn't like Peco streamline points .    I feel jacksons themselves are outclassed by near current Bachmann and Hornby RTR wheels.   I would spray the aluminium wheels matt black, polish the treads   fit them to surplus stock I no longer wanted and stick them on eBay

Bin them or get some very poor feedback on ebay in due course !!

The only LNER model I have seen with Red Rods is the latest Bachmann J72 2313 which also has Red lining to the wheels. I believe it is correct for when it was used at Newcastle? as a station pilot?

The NER painted Rods Red as well, again no idea if applied on all Locos

It maybe the video ? ,the G5 looks like it is rocking up and down ?

Two Expos , one split after 2 years the other one 6 months .

1 hour ago, markw said:

The LMS insulated/ventilated containers with ice boxes were taller than other containers.

Diagram 175    8'  7 1/2"

Diagram 176    8'  10 1/8"

Diagram 177    8'  10 1/8"

 

Thanks very much for the info.

A reopen on this old thread.

I have just bought a 4mm??  3d printed LMS Insulated Container with Iceboxes on the Roof version.

On comparing to my other 4mm Containers,  it is noticably higher, than all the other pre war versions I have, the width is the same as the others.   All the other Containers are approx 32mm high  , this one is 36mm high 9' 00" high . Correct to scale or not ??.

A search of the internet all say a standard height of 8' 00" high (32mm) on all the mentions, I have found so far.

Try soapy water on a cotton bud. Looks like oil marks to me, as well.

1 hour ago, 5050 said:

Possibly try Peter Wood in Doncaster?  He had a stand at Doncaster Show and can make virtually anything (he reckons!) .

 

www.menp.co.uk

 

I'm considering ordering some industrial name plates at some time soon.

Thanks for info. I have emailed him.

Has anyone got a unwanted 4mm set of the unique etched LNER Eclipse Plates fitted only to the rear Bunker of the LNER Q1 shunting engine as on the photo below please. 

The only maker I have found to have made them is Modelmaster , obviously due to the ongoing issues with non delievery etc etc , I have no intention of attempting to obtain a set from them.

Any assistance would be great !!. Thanks for reading.

15 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Simple questions.  Do they know the model railway market and how it works; do they know the slot car market and how it works; do they know the plastic kit market and how it works - and more.   In fact do they even know the size of those markets and the spending power in them or how pricing impacts volume impacts sales, and so on?

 

Why has someone like Accurascale been able to offer the sort of prices they do for model locos while other can't (one hint - volume)?  Why have some retail commissioners sold more, far more, of some of their models than Hornby manage to sell of some of their hi-fi/mainstream models (one hint - knowing the market)?  Can Frasers/Mike Ashley answer those questions I wonder?

 

Frasers could probably do pt retty well on TT120 marketing and sales at this point in the life of the range where there still emphasis on starting with a trainset.  Could they sort out the marketing of Railroad - possibly but they needa lot of wider knowledge than they would with TT120.  But would they know what hi-fi- loco  to develop that would sell in sufficient quantities to keep the price under (or even well under) £200?

Nothing that cant be overcome , all they have to is hire the right people for the job , pay a reasonable wage and sort out the rubbish that makes no money and is still being made. If there isnt any rubbish???? , then they need to reduce the prices and up the quality otherwise they sink for good.

Too many other companies are now the leading lights, in a relatively small market, Hornby are not competive enough, they seem to kid themselves that everybody want Hornby etc before any other brand, those days are long gone and will not return in the short term or perhaps even the long term unless they up their game no matter who the owners are.

Do Hornby still need to be in a defunct factory ??, many miles from main shopping areas , how many people/customers would be bothered where they are based. I would'nt.

1 hour ago, Boris said:

No, red ones were a thing, I have seen references to them but so far the only image I can find is a colourised B&W photo which doesn't really count as a primary source!

All early LNER containers were Red Oxide, BK Containers went to Oxford Blue sometime in the 1930's.