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Sorry, that is nonsense. Matter of fact 08105 & 08107 received their TOPS numbers whilst still in black livery and D3052 made it to December 1973 in black. Not ALL visits to works, resulted in a repaint. Also your quoted number range for the 350s delivered in black is wrong; 13000-13244 (NOT 13259) and 13298-13336 (NOT 13315) were delivered in black.

No. The only known GFYE Class 76 was E26031 and that had the Lion & Wheel Emblem.

Harold Elliott and Railwayland were definitely in Brighton by 1963/4. There was a far larger layout there then, than would have been after Harold sold up, around 1972/3. The Hornby three-rail layout was also there, opposite the main layout. Once an hour or so, Harold would move over to the Hornby layout and invite kids to have a go at some Hump Shunting. I used to go there throughout the 60s and early 70s. Once he sold up, the new owner "asset-stripped" the best locos and much of the layout. It only lasted a year or so before closing altogether. I remember Harold saying he would like to retire to Rhyl. Whether that's what he did or not, I don't know.

Here is 27024 in green at ED on 15 Jun 1974. Not my photo, copyright unknown.

They had no green main line locos but still a handful of 08s in green in 1975. When 20146 & 20149 turned up in green in 1976, they were fairly quickly given their blue coats so that ScR was 100% blue again. Then green 20020 turned up in 1977....

By Feb 1974, there were only two left....5818 & 5827. 5827 went on to carry its TOPS number, 31294 in green for a few weeks. I saw it in the Factory as 5827 on 16/3/74 and it was seen with its new number at Swindon the next day. Here is 5818 on OOC, on 22 Feb 1974.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ron_h/5408022345/in/photolist-9eTwCz

20143 was NEVER in green, with TOPS numbers....

Two more are 6932 & 6950 and both were TOPS-renumbered like it. I can't think of any others at the moment... Ron.

D5406 went the way most 27s did and caught fire in late 1973. Here she is at GWKS....returning to traffic in 1974, in blue and with TOPS numbers. Cheers, Ron.

I can confirm 12081 & 12084 both blue. Also 12038 & 12049. Cheers, Ron.

Add 6982 to that list...

At least D82, D164 & D165 had similar yellow ends. The 40 with serif numbers, is D206. Also D238, 240, 245 & 248 had them. Maybe others too. Rgds, Ron.

Sorry if it's been mentioned before (I haven't had time to go through ALL the posts), but D8242 was GSYP with BR Arrows at least up to mid-1970. R.

D5707 definately GFYE as well. R.

If I can "fine tune" one or two of these; 8508 was GFYE no "D" on scrapping. 8536 " " " " " " 8539 same 8552 DITTO 8579 and again 8597 another 8601 yup 8506 GFYE (no "D") Motherwell Sep1970 8507 BFYE (no "D") 17May1975 GWKS 8528 GFYE (no "D") 1970 Millerhill 8545 BFYE (no "D") 5Sep1970 Motherwell 8592 GFYE (no "D") Aug 1971 Eastfield 8601 GFYE (no "D") 1971 Haymarket I have a few more to look at, but hope these are some use to be going on with.... Cheers, Ron.

D7004 also carried BSYP without white window surrounds, but not for as long as the other two. I have a pic dated "1966" without white surrounds and Brush Veteran has one dated March 1967 WITH white surrounds. This is the only pic I've seen of this loco sans surrounds, so I wonder if there were any more that "slipped through the net" by only carrying the livery for a very short time. Rgds, Ron. Rgds, Ron.

Hi Trev, D8019 had FYE, by the summer of '69 (good name for a song!) and 8021 had recently painted FYE in July 1970 (so COULD have been SYP, prior to that). I'll try and do some digging on the others.... Cheers, Ron.

If the date on this is to be believed, it lasted until September 1974 at least. Must be the last BSYP of ANY type, to remain in service.... SC51117 BSYP, 4 September 1974 Rgds, Ron.

Hi Trev, 8021,8023,8025,8026,8028 were all green at that time - they were STILL all green on TOPS renumbering. As far as I recall, 20021 & 28 went blue in 1975, 20025 in 1976, 20026 around 1977/8 and 20023 in early 1979. Also, 8028 had the Tablet-Catcher recess, from when it was an IS loco. Of the sum total of 20s that were allocated to GD, listed a few posts up - aside from the D83XXs, the only BLUE ones, were 8046 & 8048. These two were among the very first Class 20 blue repaints and both carried the old "block-style" numerals and "D" prefixes. D8048 was unique in having its arrows the wrong way 'round. Rgds, Ron.

Very nice, but I've had those shots for years. The question was; Does anyone have any shots of 37008, in Red-Stripe Railfreight, WITH ITS "HORNET" NAMES, before its smash-up. None of those pics fit the bill - not SO easy, huh? Thanks anyway. Ron.

Just about everything covered here. Does anyone have a shot of 37008 in Red Stripe Railfreight, with "Hornet" names, BEFORE its smash-up? Rgds, Ron.

Another shot of D5335 here; http://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/5861529836/ still with white stripe and tablet-catcher. Rgds, Ron.

MY contribution to the farce, which is occurring today, at my expense, was spending six hours working on the garden, not reading any Newspapers or watching any TV. I'm about to have a bit of dinner and then I'm going back to bed. Wake me up when it's all over.......................... R.

Amazing that D5335 went GFYE, way back in 1968 but no more were ever done, even though there were still green 26s three years later. There is a so-far unproven rumour that D5324 had FYE for a short time, but I'll not be holding my breath for a photo..... Ron.

The ScR cleared out its green locos THREE times. The first was in 1976 with the repainting of the final green 08s, then 20146 & 20149 came up from Toton in 1976, both green. These went blue during 1977, giving the ScR an all-blue fleet again.......until, green 20020 was sent up from Tinsley in late 1977. Rgds, Ron.