Opelsi

Just been trying to DCC fit my new Express Dairy version.

DISASTER!

Ran in loco, pre-programmed the decoder.

Carefully undid the 4 screws.

Pushed in the sockets as per extra instruction.

Body would not come free from chassis.

Took considerable force, then BAM. Whole thing flew apart, base plate separated, wheels dancing across the floor, wires disconnected, front and rear hanging body brackets broken.

A collection of parts for an attempt at repairs or whole lot in the BIN!

Ridiculous design, blooded finger into the bargain - this should come with a health warning.

£80 for a pile of parts - THANKS Hornby!

6 hours ago, aureol40012 said:

You aren’t related to Viz’s Mr Logic are you by any chance..... ;-)

Unfortunately not familiar with said person.

I had to sit through years of economics in my youth, most of which was as you can tell was pretty dry and a lot of which I have found no further use for in life.

Rather be railway modelling TBH!   lol

4 minutes ago, aureol40012 said:

Two Cavalex BBAs sold for £210 on eBay the other day. I think that answers your question!

Sorry, I beg to differ.

There will always be outliers where a certain individual or very small number of purchasers will pay a premium.

One could in fact argue in this scenario that the market itself has contracted to very a minute and finite supply and that demand is greater than supply at this extreme end of the supply curve.

Further down the supply curve, and at a different point in time when supply was greater the market would not bear such high costs.

This can be demonstrated by the fact the although vendors will seek the maximum given sale price for stock, if that price you quote was the shop price, most buyers may not have bought units at that price. Hence to sell the stock the market price was indeed lower.

Oh and thanks for the funny face too! lol

6 hours ago, Hastings Thumper said:

This arrived at the depot this evening - presumably ready for a railtour duty tomorrow.

 

The shed master was very complimentary about the shade of green, and I have to agree it looks very good.

 

The air turned blue though when the fitters attempted to connect the tender to the loco. It's the old design of a metal bar with a small peg under the tender for it to engage with. The coupling bar is very loose at the loco end so a right fiddle to get it to engage and then turn the whole lot upright again without it letting go again.  Seems Ok once on the track though.

 

Shiny motion looks good. It's a sort of brushed steel effect rather than the chrome painted approach from years ago.

 

I was hoping to have a pair of these to run as a double header, so quietly hoping that Burton Agnes Hall comes with the same finish.

 

 

 

it is probably just me and I do respect other's opinion to differ, but that motion looks dreadful to my eye. Takes me back to the Hornby-Triang models of the early 1970's which I started with! (I still have and love them but models and everything else in life is a world away now).

Not over impressed to learn about the DDC socket and tender draw bar arrangements either TBH.

I have Burton Agnes Hall on order though will seriously think of returning it if it arrives like this (motion).

I might consider chemically blackening - or might not bother at all which would be a shame, especially given that I live not far from the real Burton Agnes Hall!

With the latest announcement of imminent releases including both another RTC Class  24/0 'Experiment' and the Class 46, I wonder if we might see the Class 46 return as RTC 'IXION' again for the next Collector's Club Model?

I have already renewed my membership (excellent value) and could see this as a big carrot for others to renew/join the Bachmann Collector's Club!

6 hours ago, killucan2 said:

So, the 20,24,45 have got a update, next the 40?? Coach the mk2b?  

I get the logic of that.

I think it is only a matter of time before some company (be it Bachmann probably, or another) does the Mk2b and/or Mk2c coaches to complete the sub-classes.

I would not be surprised if Bachmann did a Mk1 Bullion coach either as an interesting variation.

What does however surprise me is the duplication and re-tooling of class previously done when there are things like Classes 01, 06, 74, 80. 81, 82, 83, 84 that have not been done, either to a decent standard or at all in recent times.

For someone who has been in the hobby for almost half a century I realise how little I understand it's market sometimes! 

3 hours ago, davidw said:

I think it's been mentioned earlier in the thread - the continued lack of maroon Thompsons is a startling omission. 

Perhaps the earlier releases haven't sold well - I'd have thought maroon would have been more popular than earlier liveries 

Well, I did my bit and bought a full rake of the faux teak ones though was surprised that the BG was not retooled at the same time as all of the other variants.

My 86036 arrived yesterday [from Cornwall].

I will (although not pro-typical for this particular loco) be changing it to domino headcode.

I would have preferred not to have the orange cantrail strip but the version Heljan are doing of that is weathered so a non-starter for me.

I am sure I would not have been able to remove the weathering to leave a pristine finish and similarly don't think I could get ride of the orange cantrail stripe so will have to live with it for now and hope that at some point Heljan do a BR Blue TOPS without cantrial stripe or weathering, but with the perspex headcode panel, though appreciate that might never emerge.

Any update on how this is progressing please?

12 hours ago, newbryford said:

I did a search for 321 and all I got was this.....

 

For my 321st post..................

I just tried to do the fingers trick, cannot post I may offend due to looking rude!  lol   

Very much looking forward to Caroline when She get here, I am sure we will all be singing 'Sweet Caroline'!     

12 hours ago, LittleRedTrain said:

Exactly the same here. (Same one processed) so hopefully they're just processing all the orders for each coach together. 

We should know fairly swiftly.

Anyone else with similar orders care to comment please?

I ordered a full set of of these carriages immediately they were announced.

Today my chosen vendor of Widnes processed the first one R4962 FK.

Hope they are working through the others as would be dreadful if I was not to get the full set!

Fingers crossed all OK! 

6 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

What are the shiny metal strips intended to represent?

 4 handles  

(Well there are presumable 2 on each side)!

Great news and I and likely to be in the market for one, though despite various manufacturers doing and re-doing both the Class 24 variants of 24/0 + 24/1 as well as the different Class 25 sub-classes, the missing link RTR still remains a Class 25/0 and I would really like one.

Patience is a virtue!

13 hours ago, The Johnster said:

Thank you Jack.

 

I try to get things as right as I reasonably can within my limited abilities, but I've never been called a rivet counter before; I've decided to take it as a compliment, albeit unjustified, to my erudition and modelling prowess... I don't really think that 'rivet counter' is a term that can be applied to someone whose layout features, amongst other offences against finescalery, a Hornby 2721 (worked up to get rid of the upside down flowerpot chimney and the rather wierd safety valve cover, with a Bachmann chassis that does not match the splashers and has the wrong type of coupling rods) and a couple of K's A31 auto trailers, the last word in crude and blobby detail.  And I use setrack curves in the fiddle yard, and have tension lock couplers on my stock!

 

I will accept all sorts of 'layout model/3 foot rule' incorrectness up to a point, beyond which I am uncomfortable, but would not criticise anyone whose 'point of discomfort' is different to mine.  I don't have any Hornby 16ton minerals for example because they are on an incorrect chassis with the wrong wheelbase, so I buy Bachmanns, which are correct, or Parkside kits. 

 

Opelsi asked a question which I answered as best I could in the spirit of advice regarding what conversions were or weren't possible by what I would consider normal modelling standards.  A finescale scratch builder is probably not going to be buying RTR locos anyway; seemed likely to me that Opelski just wanted to know what was invovled in using the RTR Dapol mogul to represent his particular desired prototypes. 

 

The appearance of a GW mogul with a Collett cab is very obvious from much more than normal viewing distance even at a glance, the general proportions of the loco looking very different from the Churchward cab version.  Would you consider that a Castle cab would be acceptable on a Star?  I would agree that some of the other differences, such as the ballast weight behind the front buffer beam, are less instanteously obvious and have to be looked for.

Yes - I really appreciated you taking the time and effort to reply with an informative answer.

Thank you.

Changing the CV's is the easy bit if you know what to change them too.

I would be very reluctant to open up the model as at £285 and being so perfect is would be a crime to risk spoiling it.

I think it is a forlorn hope that the LEDs will be dual colour and that you are right about a rewire/LED change.

If it were relatively simple an exercise that someone had posted on YouTube I might think about it but I assume that it will be more in depth than that.

A slight shame but nothing I cannot live with on this gorgeous model.

Only had a very quick look and left for running in on the rolling road.

Front white lights I think are on all the time and white (as opposed to the white headcode lights can be switched off).

The cab light is red - looks like a knocking shop!

I am now wondering if there has been a mix up here?

It is a fantastic model which I never thought would be available RTR.

(I have a sound fitted version and run with an ESU ECoS)

16 hours ago, The Johnster said:

The 4321-5322 conversion is a goer, not much more involved than changing the number and a re-livery if you want, but the 6336-9303 is less straigtforward.  9303 had the front end lightened when it was rebuilt as  7325 in 1958, so the ballast weight behind the buffer beam would need to be removed, and of course there's the Collett side windowed cab.  This is deceptive, as although most Collett cabs look very similar, they were in fact bespoke to the class they were fitted to, so you would not be able to use one from a Manor, Grange, or 2884 for example.  Scratchbuilding is possible of course, but one would need a 93xx/73xx drawing to work from. 

 

A 93xx/73xx cab from a Mainline donor loco is not suitable either, as the firebox of these locos was enlarged to accommodate the pancake motor and spur gears, so the firebox cutout in the cab front sheet is wrong and will be too large for a Dapol derived loco.  Probably best to wait for a Collett Cab Dapol; I'm sure one will turn up eventually as Dap like to cover all the bases with their locos.

 

Sorry; I know that's not what you wanted to hear!

Much appreciated information. I will go for the 4321-5322 conversion in due course.

2 hours ago, Opelsi said:

Mine just arrived - Chocolate Zephyr!

So pleased - thank you so much KR for making this model and the others in the pipeline too.

What a good day as had only just got back from my COVID inoculation!

Hoping the third good thing comes too!  

Well the hoped for third piece of good news duly arrived promptly.

Someone I know was told his Sister would not last 24 hours with COVID some considerable time ago. Today She is well enough to come home.

Guess that trumps everything - never give up hope!   

Renumbering suitability enquiry.

Please could anyone advise me on the suitability of my 6336 to be renumbered as preserved 9303?

I also really like the idea of getting 4321 with a view to changing that to other preserved example 5322 and wondered if that might be suitable too please?

Appreciated positive comments from those with far more knowledge than I.

Mine just arrived - Chocolate Zephyr!

So pleased - thank you so much KR for making this model and the others in the pipeline too.

What a good day as had only just got back from my COVID inoculation!

Hoping the third good thing comes too!  

There again - I do have a few 'Dinosaur Diesels'  

On 08/03/2021 at 11:16, Mike Bellamy said:

 

OK so who's going to be first to build a 7mm layout using the Natural History Museum Dinosaurs - at a scale of 1:40 that's almost O Gauge!!

 

Mike

Wrong scale for me. 

Anyway, not my era!  

5 minutes ago, 96701 said:

Unfortunately some folk on here have started rattling on about other manufacturer's Class 25s. If you are referring to Heljan 25s, mine is fitted with a Lokpilot and the directional lights work correctly. One thing that I have noticed is that Reverse on the handset puts the loco in the direction of No 1 end (where the fan is). All my other locos are Forward to o 1 end, so I will have to do a bit of tweaking.

Exactly the same with my Lenz Silver+ fitted to Heljan's 25252.

An easy fix for me though as my ESU ECoS have an option to rectify.

10 hours ago, 97406 said:

There is a good chance that my blue one on order at the moment may get some stuck on, and a platey-over headcode box if I can get (or make) some bits that look just right. It’s a shame that only a couple of 86/2s got dominoes as the look suited them. Mind you the loco fleet spans any time from the late 60s to the 80s, with the odd temporal anomaly happening when I fancy mixing and matching, so it may just retain the 0O00.

86235 + 86251 I believe (had dominos).

Possibly also 86243?

Can anyone confirm or advance?

Will defo be trying to recreate one of these in due course!