Bomag

Hi all,

 

Having placed my pre-order, I received a confirmation email from Dapol with some extra details which have not yet been posted here.

 

The box set of "two extra grey and blue saloon coaches" (£49.99) listed on the pre-order form is actually for two Dapol Mk3 RFM catering vehicles painted in reverse grey/blue to match the prototype HST box set. Andy acknowledged that the window configuration would be incorrect, which is why they are being offered separately. I have decided to pre-order these as well as although they are a compromise, on my layout, the only person who knows they are incorrect will be me!

 

I also made a suggestion to Dapol that they could consider producing the "full yellow end" version as a box set of just the two power cars, as by the time the power cars were running in this livery they were usually hauling blue/red departmental coaches from the RTC-Derby and vehicles from the prototype APT. Andy said they would look into this idea.

 

Hope this info is of interest.

 

Cheers,

 

Tom

 

(edited to correct "prototype HST" to prototype APT)

Good news, expression of interest now in with the extra two RFMs

This slide is annoying me, because the 159 unit narrows down the location somewhat but 4 tracks are more confusing.

 

The slide mount says Sep 1994, and there seems to be a road running parallel with the line judging by the lamp standards on the left.

 

I wondered if it could be somewhere in Newton Abbot and the 159 is on a summer Brighton to Plymouth working?

 

 

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It looks to be just north of Aller Junction looking south with the A380 street lights in the background. The train would therefore be NB train from Paighton to Waterloo. I think Brighton to Plymouth would be a Regional Railways service.

The preservation group are using loco hauled mk3s, which, generally speaking, feature the same roof vents as the prototype vehicles but have the doors and raised window frames of the production HSTs

Jo

It runs with one Mk3a (TSO) with the original vents, a Mk3b FO with the revised vent and a Mk3/Mk3a RFM converted from a HST TRUK. All eight prototype MK3s day coaches are still in use - in HSTs, NMT and the royal train 

Hello all,

 

So we are all set up for the York show tomorrow. It runs tomorrow, Sunday and Monday and is being held in the grandstand of the city's racecourse.

 

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It's a spectacular location for a show and we are up on the second floor mezzanine looking out over the racecourse itself. In the shot above we are at the top of the first bank of terraces, about midway between the two white pillars at this end of the grandstand.

 

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We are stand 99, sharing with Rapido and just across from Locomotion. We are all set up with a 5-car Pendolino running (mainly due to reasons of space) along with our TEA samples and information about our upcoming models.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

Are you doing a class 252 in addition to Dapol?

I do not know about anyone else here, but I have been lobbying Hitachi for the last 3 years to select the best model manufacturer, who shall deliver detail over compromised 'toy'. Read into that as wished, the Japanese are just about as keen modellers as us!

In that case it wouls be Kato, fine as long as it's 1:148 or 1:152 and not 1:160.

It seems a pity that Dapol are not producing any of the catering vehicles. Whilst I understand the reasoning, the full-length set rarely ran without these. If you want to run a "shorty" set without catering cars then you probably won't need all the 1sts and 2nds.

Definitely agree on the catering vehicles; I was thinking this was a dead cert but now I will have to consider it. If it was just the power cars or 8 car set with re-liveried RFMs then fine but AFAIK it almost never ran with 4 FO+4TSO - for a start  11001/12001 were hived off to the royal train fairly early.

Having looked at the flyer it has two extra reverse liveried coaches why? Since the book set has all eight. Now if the did them as 41001/002 42001/002, 41170-41174 or 42353-42357 in B/G, ICE or ICS then I would have some.

Revolution will be sharing the Rapido stand at York over the Easter weekend where we are also announcing a new model, so do come and say hello if you're visiting.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

A bit like Osborne, an anouncement about an anoucnement. Is there a reason it we cannot be told now?

A pic of the support coach behind Sir Nigel here:

 

http://www.sirnigelgresley.org.uk/presphoto01.shtml

 

 

This link should display a gallery, click on Ribblehead 13Feb 1982

In which case the BCK is 21096/99080

According to SBJ 4468 ran a special on 11th May 1986 from Cambridge to Stratford by the CURC - SNG from Ruislip to Banbury where it was replace by a unknown loco while 4498 was turned via the Hatton curve)

Regarding Trigger's broom every one of us is like that broom as our bodies' cells renew themselves on a regular basis.

Except for our teeth which is why they use them in archaeology for finding where you grew up.

In pedantic mode the prototype HST did not have two buffets it had one buffet (TRB) and one kitchen car (TRUK). As for picking holes in the design of the generic TRSB/TRUK/RFM, even a coach nut like myself would find it hard to tell the difference, I would much rather have a three vent roof open with no secondary coach locks.   

I would have though that it would be referred to as the QE2 - as in 'take the QE2 to Paddington'

My memories of class 252 are a bit hazy these days, but surely it didn't have 10 coaches?  Not sure if it was 6 saloons + 2 buffets, or 5+2.

 

Chris

There were 10 coachs in total 10000, 10100, 11000-11003 and 12000-12003. 11001/12002 were converted for the 1977 royal train (2903/2904) and there remainered were renumbered into the 4xxxxx high speed trailer series. However I don't know the dates of them being renumbered - presuamably before the production stock was deleived from 1976.

far too avantegarde but i wonder if Bachmann will get to the corridor first and brake corridor firsts of the forthcoming aircon mk2f's.......maybe the livery worn by these will be a consideration limiting the appeal.....think basically its blue and grey.not sure if these survived into sector era.....

It would be amazing if they produced an accurate replica of a Mk2f FK or BFK. If they settled for a Mk2d FK and BFK I would be happy - they came in B/G, ICE, ICS, ICS charter stock and there was even a NSE FK. 

This is causing me problems, but should be obvious to some.

 

A large power station on the right with an aggregates depot in the foreground and what might be the partial remains of a viaduct.

 

To narrow it down much further, the unit destination blind says Skegness. 

 

 

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Off the top of my head it could be at the 16MP south of Derby on line to Birmingham. The power station is a fit for Willington and there are aggregate quarries on the SE side of the track. Also it looks like a Tyesley  116.

If its not that it could be on the Derby- Notts line with Castle Donnington in the background - most power stations in the area have towers in lines rather than in a V.

 and three Mark 3 trailer cars...

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Dava

Well one Mk3, one Mk3a and one Mk3b

Amazing, isn't it? I found the speculation on this thread quite amusing as well as totally unproductive, so I took the trouble of asking Peco three specific questions. Not for the benefit of RMWeb, but for the simple benefit of me... and how I would wish to use the track. How horribly selfish of me. Two questions I have the answer to, the third, well I'm none the wiser and will have to wait and see. My mistake? Mentioning anything at all on this thread. I do kinda resent the implication that I'm bragging about something. I published the content of a reply from Peco some time ago and received little but grief from certain RMWebbers. You all win, I'll delete the original post and let you go back to your pointless frothing. As Manuel was fond of saying... "I know nothing".

So what were the three questions and what were the answers? I have no problem with you asking questions relavent to you but since these may also be relavent to other then it may be helpful relaying what PECO said.

A new British Finescale/FiNetrax website has been launched - very professional and lots of interesting new products.

 

The old website didn't give a very good impression, especially the dormant discussion forum.

The new one was looking better until I looked at their terms and conditions; irrespective of the lack of acquaintance with current consumer law they seem to say that you cannot expect the products to last for more than 14 days as that is the extent of the warranty!

Weren't GWR branch lines laid with flat bottom..... Not even Code 100?  Shucks, I have to kill myself.  

Given that we are told the GWR invented/adopted everything first (except for any paint not Brunswick green) why weren't GW branch lines laid with FB rail? We want to know these facts!!!

I can foresee some future nit picking with this track - whether the keys are in the right side of the chair!

If I was traveling on the CME I don't think I would be that dispointed with a pair of Black 5s, particularly over the S&C. They should give better sound effects and at least they they are not the wrong colour of green.

At least I can now have a lie-in on Saturday.

I cannot see why it matters that Joe Public and his family dont know jack sh*t about engines when half the new members of RMweb hardly know much more judging by the questions they ask. They expect us to do the research on their behalf, but when we point out that a livery or something is incorrect, they then criticize us for being too serious! I for one no longer respond names that would be more at home on Thomas Facebook.

It is one think to say that a model does not have an authentic livery (but politely) but it is another to assume, and say, that the actual loco has a livery that is not authentic as it was was not painted like that before a set date after which the loco stopped being 'real'. In terms of FS it seams that it either has to be exactly like it was in the 1930's (aka Apple Green) or in the 1950's/60's (aks BR Green). Well I would like it to be eaxctly the same as I remeber it in the 1980's, but I don't expect it.

So FS is in a perfecly historical accurate livery; the livery of Jan 2016. So, to those that critisise that fact that they have not chosen to paint it in your prefered livery; the livery is not wrong becsuse the owner - NRM - has not said it was intending to replicate the condition and livery of a set date in the past.

Castle itself should offer some interesting possibilities for conversion - into the earlier Star class for example.

 

Cheers,

Alan

Well they do all look the same, so it's not hard!

I spotted that too but wasn't aware of any micro buffets in the eastern fleet.

 

Unless I've got it wrong, I always thought Crown Point was the primary depot for the push pull sets, so if the bg is part of the boat train would that set have been maintained elsewhere (illford?) Or would it have made its way up to Norfolk at times? I know from reading that the mk1 buffets chopped and changed which set they were in anyway!

Up until mid 1990 (well 13th July at least) all the A/C stock were Mk2D with some Mk2E FOs. The standard formation was BFK/FOs/RBR/TSOs/BSO from south to north. There was an inbalance of BFKs to BSOs so some sets had the odd BG esp the boat train (which also had a RMB). I cannot remember any of the TSO(T)s ever being used as a buffet. By then nearly everything was in ICE livery; B/G had disapeared, I don't think it was high up on the list for ICS so only a few of these were noticable.

By the end of 1990 the Mk2D/E coaches would have started to be replaced by the Mk2F from the WCML (which were displaced by Mk3s from Scotrail)

Thanks Jamie and Shadow; and apologies for my terrible ignorance when it comes to the geography of Scotland.

 

This next one is of a distillery with an adjacent single track railway, and my knowledge of distilleries tends to be limited to sampling their products.

 

 

 

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Possibly Strathisla on the Keith - Duftown line or Dallas Dhu on the Grantown - Forres line. The line from Grantown to Aberlour had a number of Distilaries but that is at the bottom of the Spey valley and you would proabbly see some hills in the background.

Hi all,

 

So all of our Class 41s will be powered. Sorry if that hurts your bank balance! 

 

-Jason

While some may want to save money, others, like myself dislike have two powered vehicles at either end of a train. This is not only due to issues with balance of push/pull but because it is a pain when they go between sections.

Hello everyone

 

I am not interested to class 45 peak but I know everyone like peak and I prefer class 47 running on trans pennine

I would keep that quiet; pefering 47s to anything other that HSTs (or perhaps 31/4s) in the mid to late 1980's was considered to be a bit odd.