Indomitable026

Ive found a few shots of DitD under construction.

Nothing ground breaking but hope they are of interest.......

Another little gem for you:- http://peterrfoster2.../p55027455.html

D6304 along side the shed in 1967, in the background is a rake of vans either to or from Par Docks.

 

wow!

 

That really is a little gem.

 

you can keep those coming.........

Oooo! post #s 219 & 220 are just soooooo good!!

It really is like being there....

 

May I ask how the backscene was created?

The back scene was created as follows;

'Owd Gringo' very kindly painted the MDF back boards with a faily neutral sky using waterbased paints.

The sky was then cut off a Gaugemaster back scene with the remaining 'hills' then carefully stuck on to the pre-painted sky on the MDF.

Credit to Jayne (Owd Gringo's partner) for showing more patience than the 3 omigo's put together, and making an excellent job of this.

Pictures from Wadebridge show, by 'Tigger'

Just dug out the notes from my file. I used three methods to work out the length of the outside wall.

 

1. Google earth gave an average of 80'

2. Counting bricks initially gave slightly less but then I realised that all the bays were not identical in length which revised the dimension upwards.

3. Using geometry - the front face of each bay is 54mm (@4mm) and the rear is 108mm. Each bay appears to turn through 10deg. Pressing some calculator buttons gives the wall length to be 310mm or 77.5'.

 

There's obviously error in all three methods but I'd say a figure of around 80' won't be far off.

ooopps.

im not crediting everyone involved in working out the roundhouse dimensions.

sorry Chris.

think there is a lot of good material on Westerns and the Warships, however the D600's are harder to research. i have a dozen photos from various books and magazines but none at St Blazey.

 

Does anyone have pictures of D600's at St Blazey????

 

 

 

'The Newquay Branch and it's Branches' by John Vaughan (OPC 1991), has a picture of D600 in Green SYP in St Blazey yard alongside the wagon works building in 1963.

Also, J V's 'Branches and Byways, Cornwall' shows D600 passing through Fowey on a St Blazey to Carne Point clay working, again in 1963.

Damian, could you PM me please regarding my earlier message please.

Clive.

Boscarne,

Ok, i'll stick that on the growing list of books to buy!

Thanks for that.

Btw, being a new boy to RMweb, what does PM me mean?

With regards to D600s at St Blazey, I asked Hugh Dady about this and he said they were regular visitors between 1962 & 1966. He also sent the following link:-

http://micksworldofb.../p55814602.html

He thinks this picture was taken around 1965, enjoy. All the class were withdrawn in December 1967 and languished at Laira before being broken up at Cashmore's, Newport and Woodham's, Barry.

D820,

that's brill - the famine is over, i now believe that they were seen at St Blazey and what a great shot. thanks for your help on that.

Great and Inspirational modelling!

 

More books!

"The Newquay Branch and its Branches" [John Vaughan] has several photos of the sheds including the wagon repair shop, including the inside - more in "An Illustrated History of West Country China Clay Trains"

 

The roundhouse - does anyone have a definitive measurement for the length of the building? Counting bricks and scaling from google earth (given the turntable is stated to be 71" diameter) gives different values -somewhere between 75 & 90 feet.

 

The turntable - the tracks curve onto it - except the middle road 5 - probably because there was origionally a smaller turntable with its centre further from the shed (45-50' diameter ?). If straight lines are drawn along the centres of each roof ridge [having printed out the google earth image], they converge at a point about 10 feet from the centre of the present turntable. This point can be assumed to be the centre of an origional, smaller turntable with stright tracks to it.

A larger turntable cannot be accomodated on this point as the nearmost running line is in the way, so the centre would have to go closer to the shed, requiring curved approaches. 50' would be long enough to hold two CMR 060T's - but I've not come across any reference to a smaller turntable in earlier years.

 

I was planning a compressed model of the roundhouse, part in low relief, but that is on hold with a house move in sight.

 

Class 25s - the derbysulzers website has full details of when each loco arrived (from summer 71) and departed from the South West.

 

Class 35s - I've never seen a photo of a Hymek on clay. Laira had a small number from 1964-67 including D7095+ (all the last 6? - not sure) from new, also D7068 and a few others. I believe this was to work the ex SR route via Okehampton, but I have seen a photo of one at Penzance. Someone like Bernard Mills (Plymouth Railway Circle) might know more about their workings in Cornwall. An article in Traction established D7032 and D7055 were the last visitors (to PZ) in 1972 during a strike, I guess Hymeks would have been extremely rare west of Plymouth after 1967.

 

The crossing keeper's cottage - I remember watching the TV programme - the owner stripped off the render which had covered it for much, if not all of its life (most buildings close to the sea tend to be rendered, particularly those of brick or rubble construction).

The shed headshunt was immediately behind the cottage, and a loco (or DMU?) had gone through the buffers at some point!

Its interesting to read your comment on the curved roads in to the roundhouse, the reason for it had not occured to me and, if i'm honest, has puzzled me. if you were building from scratch you would make sure everything lined up. but of course if the size of the turntable changed! that explains it!

I have drawings of the original turntable and how it was extended. I also have the drawings for the roundhouse although i cannot find them currently - errrhhhh! scruffy! the drawings i have are not dimensioned tho. John (old gringo) spent a good few hours working all the geometry out from the drawings, google and brick counting on photos, resulting in the footprint being drawn on the base board. i think we got it pretty close.

Just bought the following books;

• Heyday of the Westerns
• BR Diesels in the 1960's & 1970's
• Diesels in Depth - Westerns

Awaiting Heyday of the Hydraulics & Warships.

think there is a lot of good material on Westerns and the Warships, however the D600's are harder to research. i have a dozen photos from various books and magazines but none at St Blazey.

Does anyone have pictures of D600's at St Blazey????

I had a browse through some books last night and found a couple that might be of interest to your 60s/70s period. 'The Heyday of the Warships' and 'The Heyday of the Hydraulics' both by Hugh Dady have some St Blazey (83E/84B/BZ) related shots. The hydraulics book has a shot of 1071 'Western Renown' at St Blazey in 1975. Of more interest is the picture of D6301/D6302 & D6303 in the half roundhouse, all in different liveries and of course, all pilot scheme locos, taken on 20/9/1967. Another photo shows D868 'Viking' on the Par-Fowey line on 1/1/1968 with a clay train.

This brings me to a few important dates, the line to Fowey closed on 1st July 1968 and Par Bridge Crossing box closed on 6th October 1968. The present track layout at St Blazey came into use on 19th December 1976. When I visited the box in the eighties, there was still a lever labelled 'Fowey Main', some years after the line's closure. I am told this is still the case!

Oh no - two more books to buy.

thanks for that.

Hmmm interesting.

It may have to be the late sixties then. Make sure all those 'kettles' have gone.

Out of interest then why were the Hymeks never used down there? axle load?

St Blazey - 'Diesels in the Duchy'

We are looking into the possibilty of modelling the early sixties as an alternative period for the layout.

As I understand it we would be looking at; Westerns, Warships, D600s, NBL type 2s and early Derby Sulzers?

Request for information.

My request is a simple one, can anyone help with photo's/ info from this period in around the Duchy, but in particular BZ?

Your help would be much appreciated......

Wow.

I've only just worked out how to get on to this RMweb thingy, and that was with Chris's help.

By way of an introduction I'm the 'Damian' refered to - the owner of 'Diesels in the Duchy'.

I am absoluley stunned at the kind comments that have been posted about our little version of BZ.

Thank you all very much, it certainly makes it all worth while.