Corbs

True, the only outing described in the book is an exhibition at Inverness in 1935 but it doesn't detail whether it was towed there or not. The 1958 overhaul is described as 'restored to running order' so it is doubtful if it was steamable before that.

Could go the full NORD John?

Yep, both green. I posted a colour photo of the 1946 green on this thread but deleted due to unknown copyright. I just mean that the green inside the lining should (according to the paint guide and reference photos) be a lighter shade than the green outside the lining for Drummond I, but that was not represented in either 1934 or '46, as it was the same shade inside and out. Reference for Drummond I on 107 here showing the two-tone. Potential future option for Rapido to do the 1934 or 1946 versions for pre-nationalisation railtours?

Yep that's the one.

Hi Brian, Strange that it was at Conygar, as that quarry was served only by a narrow gauge cable-hauled tramway that linked to a spur of the WC&PR. Presumably the loco was employed shunting this siding? Or perhaps it was permitted to take the quarry's wagons over WC&P metals to the GWR connections at Clevedon or Portishead. My personal link to this loco is I was born 5 minutes from Trusham, went to school opposite Conygar Quarry and one of my best friends is from Sandford! Some 60-90 years too late to see the loco working though... Info from this site: https://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/49/Notes.htm "Pocket Book B records that [standard gauge] locomotives were not used after 1926 at the Hennock Granite Quarries of the Teign Valley Granite Co Ltd at Trusham in Devon, and lists only one locomotive - a standard gauge 0‑4‑0 saddle tank named FINETTA (Avonside 1565 of 1911). According to Avonside records this was one of two class SS1 locomotives with 14in by 20in outside cylinders and 3ft 3in wheels, built to their stock order of 3rd September 1908 and supplied new in 1911 (by July 1911) to Hennock. Spares were sent to TVG until January 1914, and from March 1917 onwards to the War Office: invoices dated May and July 1919 recorded despatches to WD Codford [Wiltshire] where 1565 was running as WD No.16. On 20th October 1919 new brake blocks (? a suggestion of a recent transfer) were ordered by the Sandford & Conygar Quarries Co, and subsequent despatches were to this Company's Sandford Quarry in Somerset. By February 1924 printed notepaper of the Sandford & Conygar Quarries Co was being over-stamped 'Sandford Quarries Co: the proprietors were shown as the Teign Valley Granite Co Ltd, Trusham, Devon. In November (or December) 1926 FINETTA went to Avonside's works at Bristol for overhaul and the fitting of a new copper firebox at a cost of £328 19s 8d, being returned to Sandford on 19th January 1927 repainted unlined green. On 26th June 1929 FINETTA again visited Avonside's works for repairs, and on this occasion received a steel firebox at a cost of £188 18s 5d. After returning to Sandford on 12th September 1929 there is no further mention in Avonside records, but Society records show that it was sent from Roads Reconstruction Ltd's Conygar Quarries in Somerset (date of transfer from Sandford not shown) to A.R. Adams & Son, Newport, Mon, in 1931. It was resold to the Glamorgan Canal Company at Cardiff (where it was named DELWYN) and remained there until 1947 when it moved to ICI's works at Winsford, Cheshire: renamed JOHN L. DEUCHAR, it was scrapped about 1953.' "FINETTA (Avonside 1565 of 1911) was renamed DELWYN by the Glamorgan Canal Company, although the lettering is not too clear on this photograph. (Collection G. Alliez, courtesy B.D. Stoyel)"

Recently I've been using Tamiya Clear Matt spray, it's not as good as dullcote but it's ok.

Yes both the 1934 and 1946 repaints appear to be a single shade, rather than the two-tone. The 1946 one definitely was lighter!

I think it would be easy to confuse the works grey with IEG, as seen here on 111, and here the photo of 108 with the plough fitted, also works grey.

Regarding the Westinghouse pumps, can anyone tell me if they were indeed for interoperability with Caley stock, or if they were only to provide stronger loco brakes? There are no signs of air pipes on the front of the locos and it would be a bit odd to only have them on the rear.

Magnificent

I've had these Ultrascale wheels to swap into my AWVR Class 20 for several years, always intending to make a video about the upgrade, but I got sick of it never happening so took the plunge, literally took about 5 minutes! Big difference to the coarse wheels with traction tyres it had before. Still needs couplings. Back on the 'main fleet', to mount the Prairie body I have used a little styrene tab at the front that gets screwed down, then the back of the loco is held in place with neodymium magnets. The magnets are covered up with sandboxes salvaged from the Dapol Drewry Shunter kit (since I didn't need them on my skirted model). After some more sanding of the cylinders and a bit more painting of the driving wheels, it looks like this. Left to do: Dummy frames at rear Wiring in Rx and battery system Crew Handrails Weathering After a shopping spree at Caley Coaches, the 4-4-0's safety valves got upgraded to this turreted type rather than being mounted directly to the firebox. Also, I finally decided to use the solid brass Dean Goods dome I had been saving as No.5 needs all the weight it can get over the drivers. Going to leave it unpainted as it looks cool.

Fantastic modelling as always, Alan and such a delight to see more of Tweedale. The scene looks great.

Apparently some of the Jones-livery locos did indeed have HR markings added to the tender by Drummond when the paint was in good condition. So you could justify the Jones one and some HR decals?

FINALLY, found a pic of 103's 1934 restoration. No wingplates, 106's chimney, Drummond livery but with correct lining, Cumming numberplate. Contrast this with the 1946 refurbishment, you can see how much lighter the green was (and the fact it is not two-tone any more), and see how the lining on the front splasher mimics the LMS lining rather than the HR style. There's also a few photos of it being repainted: https://www.ambaile.org.uk/search/?searchQuery=17916 Some more shots of 106 showing the Westinghouse pump and snow plough brackets on the smokebox. Tempting to get the 106 in Jones livery and add the pump and brackets for a bit of interest.

106 and 116 were fitted with Westinghouse gear in HR days. 106 had the pumps fitted until it was scrapped in 1934. 116 (17929) was rebuilt in 1932 using the frames from 17918 and the old frames (still with Westinghouse gear attached) were dumped at St. Rollox. The reference says that in the years prior to rebuilding, the pump was unused/disconnected anyway. RTUK are doing 106 but before the Westinghouse gear was added as there is a photo of this loco in this condition and livery to match to. Opportunity for someone to print one perhaps? This pic shows the pump on the right hand side.

Artwork/descriptions on the website have been updated. The LMS versions all now have short tender tanks. 17920 is confirmed as being in the later condition with Caley-style front end. The lined version is now 17928 with the HR louvred chimney, wingplates and 2-handle smokebox door.

Just spoke to RTUK and they confirmed that 17920 will be in the later condition with the Caley style front end and that the artwork on the website will be changed. After more info has been received, the tenders on the LMS versions will be altered to the short tank with no toolbox versions as only 105, 110, 113 and 116 received the long tender tanks. 113 still had the toolbox in the condition it is being modelled.

There is a colour photo around which shows this. The tender tank is the short one but with the toolbox removed, 103 did not receive a long tender tank so far as I can tell. This is from after the 1946 overhaul but before the 1958 one. 1934 - Chimney nicked off 106, repainted Drummond lined green with HR lettering, Cumming number plate 1946 - Repainted a lighter green with inaccurate lining (esp. front splasher) 1958 - Repainted IEG, wingplates restored, dummy lock-up covers over the ross pop valves, toolbox restored, no HR on tender Post-1965 - IEG but with HR lettering on tender, warning flashes removed, lining altered.

17920 had the wingplates removed but retained the original LMS livery as seen in these photos. The references I have seen say that a lot of the locos had the wingplates put back on at some point (I had never realised that wingplates served a purpose in helping to prevent the boiler expanding forward). I have 17920 as having lost the wingplates in 1932. There might need to be some clarification on version as the artwork shows safety valve lock-ups and wingplates but the description is for the later version. I will try and find out. https://www.ambaile.org.uk/asset/24991/ https://www.ambaile.org.uk/asset/24948/1/EN24948-lms-17920-at.htm/ https://www.ambaile.org.uk/asset/24915/1/GD24915-lms.htm/

A couple of photos of a nearly-new 108 with the large snowplough mentioned earlier, hence the additional lamp bracket on the chimney. 106 and 108 were so fitted. https://www.ambaile.org.uk/asset/11684/1/EN11684-hr-108-with-snowplough/ https://www.ambaile.org.uk/asset/11685/

Looks fantastic! Wish I'd had your skill when I was at university!

Yeah most of them had flangeless centre drivers most of their lives. Also fun fact: When the LMS restored 103 in the 1930s, it had a Drummond chimney so nicked the Highland louvred one off 106. 106 and 108 were the two snowplough-adapted locos with an extra lamp bracket on the chimney, which has been retained on 103. Also also: At some point one of the LMS black ones still in service swapped wheels with 103 and for a while was running around with lined green wheels and black everything else. One thinks if you did that on the model, people would ask 'when are you going to finish painting it?'

Pre-prod livery artworks.

Hmm good question. Variants in what way? At a basic level you have the 4 types of 18" Hunslet: -Pontop & Jarrow 0-6-0T -48150 -50550 -Austerity/J94 But if looking solely at the Austerity there are loads of detail differences. Some had different wheels, for example, whereas some were the Porta-inspired rebuilds with GPCS, stovepipe chimneys, mechanical underfeed stokers. Add to that giesl chimneys on some of them, or the 'smoke shielding' blowers the NCB fitted to some.

On the E2 above - ended up soldering even more diodes in so it now has 4 in each direction. In theory this now means it starts at 3.7v, steps up to 9v, then back down to 5v, doh. All part of the fun of trying to match power to motor/gear combos. I am determined to finish off the SMR prairie and had hit a wall with the cylinders and more specifically the motion, brackets etc. I had intended to adapt stuff from the radial but after a month with no progress I got frustrated and removed the Adams cylinders. Instead I am hoping to use some cruder but simpler items in the form of the Bachmann 'NotPercy' ones I had (you guessed it) in a drawer. These have the (round) slide bars integrated into the cylinder so only one mounting point to worry about. The crankpins were knocked out of the Terrier wheelset and some longer replacements from spare B2 wheels (left over from the W4 wheel swap) were bonded in with Araldite. I also flopped the coupling rods over so the join is on the furthest side to reduce the chance of the connecting rod catching on it. Handily Terriers have an evenly split wheelbase! Note: important to use matching crank pin bolts - the Peckett ones are much smaller than the Terrier ones and getting it wrong can ruin screw threads. The cylinders had been modified and sanded flat on top for the old 'Perseus' bash I did a while ago. Now it was a case of fixing on some strip to give a more level top. Which was then bonded to the cylinder stretcher I had previously made from brass and styrene. ^ This picture shows how much of a lip the resin chimney had so it needed shaving down with a scalpel blade. I slipped with the blunt blade and scratched the smoke box, so changed it, every time I do this I think ‘should really change blades more often’ and every time I forget. Here it is now with the green stuff putty hardening, to be sanded smooth. Front wheelset is posed there for now until I work out how to mount it. Chimney is better but could use a bit more gentle sanding/filing. As I said the rods are a bit coarser but 'done is better than perfect' in my eyes and if I ever get braver/more inventive I can try it again.