Bon Accord

On 30/11/2023 at 14:25, jjb1970 said:

It's amazing what turns up here, Singapore is pretty much the Clapham Junction of international shipping.

The other four ships still used by the MOD do occasionally make the trek from Southampton to Brunei and even Diego Garcia a couple of times per year.

There's also always one heading to the Falklands (via Ascension) and another on it's way home.

1 hour ago, woodenhead said:

WCR still fighting 'the man', it must be costing them almost as much to fight this as it would to actually fit the train with doorlocks like everyone else has.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-67552056

As far as I'm aware amongst the 'heritage' operators only LSL has fitted CDL to their coaches. Everyone else has an exemption, at least for the moment.

1 hour ago, G-BOAF said:

Anyone got their hands on the TPO vehicles yet? I ordered a couple of weeks ago but not had a deliver yet.

Got mine within a few days of ordering.

Might be worth chasing BCC in your case.

Another jolly boys outing on Sunday, this time aboard WAVERLEY for her last sail of the season.

This was another opportunity for a bunch of old shipmates to meet up, go for a sail and destroy a few brain cells.

I took all three photographs as she approached Tighnabruaich on the homeward leg - we'd jumped off there prior to her cruise to the south of Bute - she then called again (as seen) prior to returning to Glasgow via Rothesay, Largs and Greenock.

She had a near capacity crowd onboard that day, some 740 odd passengers. Apparently this has been WAVERLEY'S most successful season in some four decades.

The brakes going on approaching the pier. Unlike a conventional screw driven vessel, as a paddler WAVERLEY can stop in near her own length.

Alongside Tighnabruaich pier for her last call of 2023.

14 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

I kept my discharge book, partly because it provides a time stamped record of a significant part of my life but probably more because when I occasionally look at it so many memories come flooding back, people and events I never think of otherwise. I still keep my old certificates of competency too. My class 4 and class 2 (class 3 is a niche for coastal and small ships most engineers don't do) certificates were really rather impressive,  old style hardback open out documents with lovely printing. They had a real gravitas and did give people a little bit of pride. My class 1 certificate is a cheap and nasty booklet like a cheap and inferior copy of modern passports.

If you think the most recent passport type tickets were bad you should see the new credit card/driving license type. I renewed mine last year and got one of them back.  I've resorted to using a magnifying class to read the details on the new cards. They have QR codes on them etc so hopefully the time will come when it'll all be on the card rather than having to carry half a filing cabinet of paper around with you.

On the upside you can revalidate electronically now and submit all documents via email, with only a small percentage having to submit all their original bits of paper as a sample. Must say sending my entire working life off in an envelope entrusted to the Royal Mail every five years was always heart in mouth stuff for me.

I'm on my third discharge book, alas the newer types are too small for my Tennents Lager book cover. I wonder how many out there still have one of those covers, or the rarer Watneys version?!

3 hours ago, figworthy said:

 

Furness Withy is a distinct possibility as that was one of the lines dad sailed with.  What I can't remember is which lines he sailed with and when.  The caption written on the slide was of little help, just where and when.

 

Adrian

Hi Adrian,

If you still have his discharge book then that'll have all the ships he sailed in and the dates he was onboard.

1 hour ago, figworthy said:

Some more nostalgia.

 

Panama Canal May 1960.

 

 

 

 

Adrian

For a wee while I was really struggling to place the ship.

There weren't many British ships with that distinctive goalpost at the break of the fo'c'sle; I know she's British going by the Mate up for'd in his whites.

Now that the surviving brain cells have had time to confer, was she one of Furness Withy's "Pacific" ships, used on their UK-Pacific Northwest trade?

10 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

Yes but the finance for the tram systems, which was some sort of special funding for light rail, was provided by Whitehall. There were four systems competing, Merseyside, Edinburgh, Leeds and Portsmouth. Edinburgh got the money. 

 

Jamie

It can't have been special funding though.

One of the first things the SNP administration did on entering office in 2007 was to hold a vote to cancel the Edinburgh Trams project in order to use the money elsewhere in the overall budget. If it had been special funding specifically for light rail from London then it would surely have been ring fenced to some degree.

Interestingly in 2015 Darling said this about the Edinburgh trams:

"I’m not going to pretend I was always in favour of the tram because people know I wasn’t. It’s built now and I’ve been on it a few times, but 
Edinburgh has one of the best bus networks in the country. What worries me is if the bus service is tied into the trams and the debt for the trams, that will have consequences.”

On the subject of trams he said this:

“I stopped most tram projects in England because they all had the same features that the Edinburgh trams has – you start off with a price which is hopelessly unrealistic, you then discover nobody knows what’s under the ground, and the whole thing has to be rethought."

2 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

He was Transport Secretary at the time according to Wikipedia. 

 

Jamie

Transport in Scotland has been devolved to Holyrood since 1999. Neither Darling or Brown have ever been members of the Scottish Parliament.

12 hours ago, figworthy said:

Going back a few (!) years.  A couple of shots of the Empress of Scotland.  Not sure where they were taken, suggestions welcome.

 

 

 

Adrian

Definitely Montreal, King Edward Basin I think.

1 hour ago, kevinlms said:

There is plenty of evidence provided by the video that FS was coming in much too fast. Of which I suspect a copy of that or similar will be made available to those investigating.

I seriously doubt that a full investigation, will deny that a slower speed in future light engine maneuvers approaching stock in a platform, would be advisable. Likely, stronger terminology.

The fact she came in too fast is not in doubt, but you - nor anyone else here - has any definite knowledge as to precisely why that was the case, be that misjudgement, mechanical issue, medical issue etc.

Yet there seems to be a mad rush to damn the individuals concerned. 

6 hours ago, kevinlms said:

But the video does SUGGEST poor operating practice. But you're correct, it isn't proof.

What it suggests is irrelevant without the full facts and has only led to some rather damning speculation, something which usually gets such threads locked long before now.

A Secunni (or Sukunni in Hindi) was a Quartermaster.

Bosun's were known as a Serang.

Bosun's mate - Burra Tindal

Carpenter - Mistri

Lamptrimmer - Kassab

Sailors (AB, OS etc) - Kalassi

Firemen - Ag Walla

All of the above was the Hindustani used to describe native crew regardless of their actual original or religion, or I should perhaps say that was at least the pidgin version of it used universally by the Malim Sahib's (i.e. us).

Strick Line were known colloquially as "Frank Strick's" after the founder and were part of the P&O empire. However as was normal for the time the parent was quite content to let the subsidiary company carry on doing their own thing with independent management, traditions, liveries etc rather than the modern fad of consolidating everything and thoroughly demoralising everyone.

Unlike most other liner companies their trade was entirely one way with manufactured British/European goods to the Perishin' Gulf and it's environs, but with nothing to come back the other way as that region produced nothing except oil. So whilst a normal voyage took them out there, they would then find a suitable charter or series of charters to somehow bring the ship home to the UK. That meant they could and often did end up anywhere on the long voyage home.

40 minutes ago, 31A said:

I can see how that could be the case.  Now I realise we're looking at the north end of the station, it looks as though the Royal Scotsman coaches were alongside the east face of the island platform but there seems to be other vehicles to the left of that train, on the run round line, which would have been in the line of sight of the fireman(?).   They certainly don't give the impression that they intended to stop where the Royal Scotsman coaches actually were!  I don't know what the view would have been from the driver's side but the line would be curving to his left (in direction of travel) so quite possibly any view of the Royal Scotsman coaches might have been obscured from his side by the tender?

 

The Royal Scotsman set also looks to have been overhanging the end of the platform by about three coach lengths.

That means the stopping point in this case prior to moving in to couple up would have been significantly further out than what their crews would be used to for the coach rakes in normal use on the Strathspey; with their own rakes the last coach is normally always inside the platform by at least a length or so.

That then means the required stopping point in this case would have been about 4-5 coach lengths further out than is normal routine.

If the crew were on autopilot and simply doing what they'd done a thousand times before that might explain the speed.

The RS set visits the Strathspey regularly, but it is diesel hauled by one of their own diesels up to Boat of Garten so a diesel crew rather than a steam crew would do the job.

2 hours ago, johnofwessex said:

I was looking at this picture of the fire that destroyed MV Bermuda in Castle Harbour

 

 

O ne of them is a paddle tug.

 

Does anyone either 

 

1. Know anything about this ship, and/or

2. How did she get to Bermuda, and what happened to her at the end of her career?

I very much suspect she's an Admiralty paddle tug, attached to what was then the Royal Dockyard in Bermuda.

The buff funnel and lack of a port of registry under her name on her stern would corroborate that.

I'm just amazed that in 2023 it hasn't been banned on the grounds of cultural appropriation.

On 05/09/2023 at 21:24, adb968008 said:

This part is worth highlighting.

 

I remember 0l49-7 one afternoon at wolstyn, in full steam but the crew were apparently draining the water from the boiler. So naturally i questioned that….

 

only to be told it wasn't being drained, it was just leaking, very badly… like multiple holes.

 

 

 

 

It went out on time that afternoon, with the leak unfixed. It just stopped for water enroute.

the boiler pressure must have been really low.
 

 

 

It could well have been number 7. I'm sure there was another somewhat damp OL49 - maybe 100? I think that was the one which was sent for overhaul and dismantled but never came back.

I do remember one day leaving Wolsztyn in a loco with leaking side stays only for the driver to ask me to stop at the level crossing just before the shed, he then clambered down and ran inside, returning moments later with a sheet of thin copper. We then got underway again.

He then spent the next wee while trying to hold it against the side of the box in an attempt to "fuse" it over the site of the leak.

11 hours ago, Baldyoldgit said:

Found another picture of the sameship

Looks to be from Polish Ocean Lines.

Of course we don't have Trinity House in Scotland, we instead have the NLB which is known to everyone colloquially as "the Lighthouse Board".

Trinity House seem to have an affection for all manner of nonsense that wouldn't be out of place with RN/RFA or the like; the NLB and their Irish equivalent were always thankfully free of such things.

On 25/08/2023 at 20:24, D6150 said:

Not really sure if this qualifies as a ghost. However.... Does anyone know long the mural of HR locomotive 68 has been on the wall behind the buffer stops at Thurso? The stops themselves also look quite vintage, including one which appears to have taken a knock at some point...

 

Thanks 

 

Ken

It's been there at least 35 years.

23 hours ago, adb968008 said:

it was the whole insanity of it…

 

That you could just rock up at a steam depot, get on the footplate, pay the right people and then take the loco off shed and onto the mainline with it.

 

i recall being told you can drive as long as your competent. I asked what that means, the reply was… if you get there on time with enough spare water, your competent.

 

 

 

 

Ty45-379.. the last steam freight loco in scheduled service in Poland, summer 2002.

 

 

The first time I went, our first turn was the morning commuter service to Poznan. So one murky morning Howard took me and my pal down to the engine, shown to the cab, Howard quickly pointed out some of the various controls and gauges and then left us to it.

I was sat in the drivers seat somewhat nervous, there was a whistle then a shout of "Odjaz" from across the cab, I turned to look and this was followed up with "go, GO" and a point of the finger ahead. I pushed the regulator open, she slipped, I yanked it back and then the Polish crew burst out laughing as I tried again to get us moving, successfully this time.

This was on one of the OL's - 59 I think - and the crew were none other than Janus and Andre, two of Wolszytn's greatest characters and regular partners in crime.

Once the crews realised you had some idea what you were doing you were generally left to get on with it with little interference. One of the best runs I ever had was with "Bum" (those who went will know who I mean) and he'd had a massive falling out with his fireman that day, so was very much in the huff. We ran from Wolsztyn-Leszno-Wolsztyn-Zbasynek-Wolsztyn and he never said a word beyond the odd jab in the ribs to let me know if I'd passed the braking point, otherwise he gave everyone a thorough ignoring.

The crazy things that used to go on at every single visit would be unbelievable to most, that is unless you'd been lucky enough to do it yourself. Just a few I remember were: running a loco in service with a firebox that looked like a water feature, the Polish fireman on the running plate hammering the Westinghouse pump as we raced home to Wolsztyn one snowy winters night, derailing a loco over little used points and just "getting on with it" with some very heath robinson gear to rerail, stopping the loco alongside a pub for a quick piwo or two and then heading off, lassoing a tree that was uprooted and leaning gently against the OHLE then commandeering the local farmer and his tractor to pull it clear in exchange for vodka with the line still open. 

The aforementioned Janus was an excellent engineman and the only time I can recall him losing his cool was when the Pacific had returned to service, albeit with a speedometer which also had a monitoring/recording device; she was the only steam loco with a speedo in Poland as I recall. At that time she couldn't fit on the turntable at Wolsztyn so ran tender first at times. Some manager then analysed the data and scolded Janus on running over the speed limit tender first. His response was to attack said speedometer with a hammer, then once detached throw it at said manager along with a request in Polish to stick it somewhere uncomfortable.

To explain for those unaware: the Polish crews were paid bonuses for timekeeping, hence rules and the odd speed limit were occasionally bent to make sure we got where we should on time.

The Blues Express was one of those turns which had to be done but probably never repeated by most; absolutely exhausting, lots of beer, emergency break applications galore etc and nearly 24 hours continuously on the footplate.

I suppose it really was all a bit insane.

Happy, fun, unrepeatable times with some wonderful people and all thanks to Howard.

21 hours ago, Steam here! said:

Hi all, I picked my P2 on the other day 2003 “Lord President” and have just noticed in the accessory pack it’s missing the guard irons.

 

is anyone missing there’s?

 

Apart from that a really nice loco.

Yes my 2005 doesn't have them either, although all other parts are there.

Did you ask Hornby directly about it?

My 2005 arrived a few minutes ago.

Taken with the 'phone camera on the kitchen table, but just to give an idea what it looks like.

On 02/08/2023 at 10:53, jjb1970 said:

This one is a long way from home, the brand new Ro-Ro ferry Finnsirius alongside in Tanjong Pagar en-route from the builders yard (Weihai in China) to the Baltic.

I presume this is one of a series to replace the Finnstar class which run from Travemunde?

When I was last up the Baltic in the freight Ro-Ros Beachy Head/Longstone (on charter to Transfennica) there were only seven ships on the Finland run that were faster than us: the five Finnstar sisters and two Superfasts which ran from Rostock. Those seven ships could all manage 25-30 knots when flat out.

Everything else we were able to overtake, so the OOW rarely needed to look astern!

All pre massive fuel prices/financial crisis of course.

After a 4 year hiatus, our annual "jolly boys outing" ran again yesterday for trip on Waverley from Greenock to Brodick (with time ashore) and return.

On arrival in Brodick on the east side of the ferry pier.

Returning to Greenock.

Having discharged all passengers at Greenock Custom House Quay, she then proceeded 'light' upriver to Glasgow Plantation Quay Science Centre, which was to be her berth for the night.