Armchair Modeller

Shame about the bus, Tony.

Straight out of the box I guess? Fleet number 2211 was LFU 713, unique in having the emergency exit at the rear and therefore a 3-window configuration rather than the 2 window configuration exhibited by the model. Photos here

https://thetransportlibrary.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=89936 and

10 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

For all you rugby fans following the RWC in Japan this is Englands answer to the Haka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjLATAUwao

or this?

4 hours ago, Ruston said:

Thanks, AM but I'm sticking with flanges on both sets of driving wheels as I think it will risk derailments on the model without them. I also think that models with flangeless wheels look odd because the flanges are always way too deep and overscale, so removing them only goes to show how overscale those that remain are. I suppose it wouldn't show up as much in P4 but this isn't P4.

 

The 0-6-0ST has got me thinking that it wouldn't take much alteration to the frame pattern to build that. The only new patterns would be for the cab and rods.

Its your model, so your choice. Please don't think I am complaining in any way.

Bedford Midland was off the main line after the St Pancras line was built. The platforms were on the old main line to Hitchin and Kings Cross. It has only recently gained platforms on the by-pass

I am still trying to find the reference to the front driving wheels being flangeless. Must have read it in a book, as otherwise I would have copied it straight onto my PC. However, the photo of the 0-6-0 version I showed earlier almost certainly has flangeless centre wheels

Early Stephenson long-boilered main line locos were like this so the principle is certainly not odd or impractical

I really enjoyed the show. Some great layouts and modelling to see. Here are some very rough photos...

1 minute ago, Ruston said:

I'd be interested to know where you found this information and to learn more about it.

Regrettably I can't remember exactly where I saw it, but do have a clear recollection of having read it. Sorry!

4 hours ago, Ruston said:

I don't know about Shipley colliery having one of these Robert Stephenson 4-4-0STs but I've read that they did have two ex-North London Railway 4-4-0Ts (presumably designed by Adams and built by Beyer Peacock?) . Are you sure you're not getting confused with these? The Stephenson 4-4-0STs that I have photos of clearly have flanges on all wheels.

No, definitely not getting confused. Look at the drawing in your first post. The fact that the leading driving wheels are so far back also lends weight to my story. With lateral movement on the bogie, it would probably be very unstable.

1 hour ago, Ruston said:

All the wheels shown are the proper wheels and all are flanged. They are Alan Gibson 14mm Manning Wardle wheels as these are the nearest I could get in appearance to the RS wheels. The bogie uses 8mm wheels from a Roy C. Link O-14 skip chassis with the centres opened to enable them to fit onto a standard OO wagon axle for pinpoint bearings.

Just that I read somewhere that the bogie was on a fixed pivot and the leading drivers were flangeless. Altered in at least one instance very late in life at the insistence of a BR inspector, as it ran over BR tracks. They then made the leading driving wheels flanged and gave the bogie some lateral movement. The loco became very unstable and was quickly scrapped. I think it was one at a Derbyshire colliery, but can't quite remember which - maybe Shipley? It had been happily used over main line tracks for some considerable time before the alteration was insisted upon.

Just curious, but are you keeping the front driving wheels flanged, or is that just your temporary wheels again?

Also, which wheels are you using for the bogie, please?

Yes that's it.

Wantage would fit your 7ft length and only just be overwide - and it was a tramway terminus.

Wasn't the term/branding 'Pay Train' very much an ER thing? 

These drawings on eBay may be of interest - though maybe not to buy! Scroll down to see all three drawings

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1905-3x-Antique-Engineering-Prints-Scherzer-Rolling-Lift-Bridge-Over-River-Swale-/181707634031

the Kingsferry Bridge to the Isle of Sheppey, replaced in the 1960s by the current structure

Model Railway News August 1966 has drawings and some details.

I have read of 9 being built. Photos suggest that Fox and Liverpool were 2 other names. Some were exported to Australia. 3 were disposed of to The Alexandra Docks & Railway.

I have seen at least one  4mm scratchbuilt model, so strongly suspect there is no kit.

https://www.scalefour.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=2568&p=22579&hilit=mersey#p27782

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For the Saab windscreen you could try some thin clear film applied to the outside of the window frame. Windscreens are pretty flush generally.

I thought the respray business (which also involved the sale of kits and building RTR versions of his kits) was quite small and very much part time. Its abandonment was all mixed up with domestic problems and his appointment at Dapol, IIRC. I heard that part of the conditions for joining Dapol was that he had to end all other model railway business activities. I know some orders were not fulfilled and it proved very challenging to get refunds. It was a totally different type and scale of business termination to the current DJM failure though.

51 minutes ago, Hitchin Junction said:

I must say , I don't understand the obsession with spending a fortune on making moulds for building plastic models of obscure prototypes, when the likely production run is only a few hundred, and the all the fabulous details get knocked off, and the plastic gears all wear out if you actually use the things. And of course, if it's a one-off, crowd funded model, there are no spares or after sales service for fixing any damage. And in 5 years time, new customers are back to the same situation that there are none available.

 

I don't remember Hornby Dublo models only being available as limited run items. And a heck of a lot of them are still going strong, having been passed down through maybe 4 or more generations.

 

But then I'm just an old chap with a cynical attitude about free lunches and a few metal working tools in my shed. But I haven't lost any money and the tools keep on working. That's what we used to call "modelling". 
 

Tim

Outside of the factory, Dave was a one man band. Difficult to see how he could operate with large runs - except when he developed stuff for Kernow, Hattons etc when the retailer did most of the work and bore many of the costs like storage. Losing that business must have been a huge dent in his potential.

Also, the number of easy prototypes left that have not been done, other than obscure ones that could only ever justify limited runs, is rapidly diminishing.

49 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

 

The first micro accounts up to July 2014 don't show anything which would indicate that there was that level of asset value in the business.

Dave said this on here in

"The OO gauge J94 has all my money ploughed into it from my house (putting my money where my big mouth is) and as such all other projects will be after it until I have a return on my investment. However if orders come through and mount up for the others announced then I will almost certainly approach my friendly bank manager (cap in hand, Oliver style) and ask for more to progress them. Otherwise they will certainly come along and be developed as funds dictate."

1 minute ago, PhilJ W said:

Not quite sure if the Bristol has been converted to left hand drive.

 

No - still RHD

Resurrecting an old topic, here are 2 buses I found recently

Bristol in Yerevan, Armenia

London Bus in Tblisi, Georgia

Found outside a Tblisi mosque