DavidLong

I've just been reading the RM review of the new Bachmann 4mm 1F, and the wheelbase is stated as being 7'4" x 7'8" except for the last batch (1845-1899) which were 7'4" x 8'2", (can't find my drawings at present to double check but doubt they would be wrong). So the 57xx chassis (7'3" x 8'3") would be good for the last batch, and no worse for the earlier ones than the 64xx chassis, each being about 1mm out opposite ways.

 

Of course if you make your own 2mm chassis for it this won't matter and you can set the correct wheelbase.

 

Izzy

I assume that Nick was hoping that the 64xx would have appeared as it would have the upgraded chassis that Bachmann have used in all new Farish locos.

David

What chassis is he putting it on. If it's the Jinty it will need to be stretched somewhat.

 

Jerry

Jerry,

Nick says that it is based on the Farish 57xx although he still hopes to use the 64xx if it appears soon. The wheels on a 1F are 1" smaller than a 64xx which also has a wheelbase of 7'4" + 7' 4". I don't have a drawing of the 1F so I'm not sure of the wheelbase.

David

Nick does a very nice set of boiler fittings for Johnson locks but I don't remember a kit.

 

Jerry

I've checked with Nick. The 1F kit is due to appear. He is waiting for the latest test etches at present.

David

I seem to remember that Nick Tilston did a kit for a 1F but it doesn't seem to be in his catalogue at present.

David

Just been reading some of the balanced and informative newspaper reporting of our first game back in the Premiership after a ten year absence. 

 

A rough summary follows

 

Ross Barkley was injured before the game. Ross Barkley took no part in the game. How will Everton cope without Barkley? Naismith played instead of Barkley. Naismith says Everton will cope without Barkley. Everton have enough strength on the bench to replace Barkley. Martinez confident Everton will cope without Barkley. Barkley may be back soon says Martinez.

 

The score? Leicester 2 Everton (apparently without Ross Barkley) 2

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I'm an Arsenal supporter, one of the 'big' teams and I find it irritating with little credit given to the 'small' teams who get a good result against the 'big' team. I watched the Manchester United v Swansea game on Saturday and you just knew that the 'talking point' afterwards would be what was wrong with United rather than how well Swansea played. 29 passes before the first goal without United touching the ball. Brilliant but at least MOTD had the decency to emphasise the point.

Personally I think that BT are worse than Sky on this point. Someone needs to teach Paul Scholes about impartiality. Anyone else notice his 'we' and 'us' during the Swansea game. Poor.

David

I can't believe the Villa. Without wishing to upset other West Midlands fans (and I'm not a Villa supporter) I always think that they are one of the big clubs in the English league but the fact is that they have under-performed for years. They had a briefly promising spell under Martin O'Neill but him being a bit of a prickly character and all they contrived to lose him. The fans deserve better but whether they will get it is something else entirely.

David

Hi everyone,

 

Is there such thing as a 1:9 template and jig available for turnouts? The association shop only seems to do them up to 1:8.

 

Best regards,

 

Jeremy

Like others on here I have built many a crossing over the years without benefit of jigs. However all my recent ones have been built using the Association jigs and believe that they are one of the best products that the Association has produced in recent years. They are almost fool-proof in use and, for a small investment ,will last for many years of use. I must admit that I did wonder what offence 1:9 crossings had caused to be left out of the list when it jumps from 1:8 to 1:10. Personally, Jeremy I'd keep lobbying for the 1:9 to be added. The Association Product Development Officer is on RM Web . . .

By the way, as an aside, I also used to draw out layout plans with pencil and paper but no more. Templot, with all its idiosyncracies, is the answer I had had been hoping for over the years. No more rolls of lining paper for me or even individual templates. If you want a truly holistic and endlessly refinable method of layout design then Templot's your man.

David

Bachmann's words, not Andy's...

 

The question here - obviously in the realms of those who know better - is would an SECR liveried N Class and a rake of Birdcage stock constitute an 'authentic representation of a pre-grouping train'? My immediate association with fixed rake stock such as this would be something more akin to the H class 0-4-4.

C Class in N anyone?

David

 

 

My time period is from the fall of Hitler to the rise of Thatcher

 

 

A wise choice if I may say so, James.

By the way, are you intending to go to Thirsk on the 27th? If you do, please stop by for a chat with Andy and myself on the 2FS stand.

David

Ok, while I'm at it, and apologies for seeming to monopolize this thread a bit at the moment. Not because part of my paternal family lives/lived in this place, and it has many happy childhood memories but it still is one of my favourites. This is a recent-ish pic of Maldon (pronounced 'Moledon') in Essex taken from about half way along the 'prom', once a thriving small sea-port, in the pic you can see about 4 or 5 old Thames barges at the old quay, when I was kid those barges would be lined up stem to stern with their flat bottoms on the mud at low tide, lined up all the way along the full length of the prom on both sides of the channel, how times have changed, but Maldon hasn't spoilt that much.

Some super photos on here and hoping for more but that one of Maldon really does it for me. Excellent composition and the sky is just wonderful. Just the sort of location that would have Mr.Rice reaching for his layout planning pad

David

The OP refers to the 'British isles'. The Wiki defines this as 'a group of islands off the north-west coast of continental Europe that consists of the islands of Great Britain, Ireland and over six thousand smaller isles'. With this definition there is no need for apologies for including Wales or indeed Scotland or Ireland from the thread. Everyone welcome!

Some delightful photos here and thanks to everyone for posting them.

David

Hi David

 

I've added some batches of Types 5,6 and 7 doors to Shapeways so you can get some idea of the pricing. The batches vary from 10 doors through to 50 doors. Shapeways fixed charge per print job for Frosted Ultra Detail material is US$5.00 so you can see that there are some serious economies with larger batches.

 

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I made the doors all 810mm wide (door leaf), the double doors are 2 x 810mm. This is a compromise between domestic and commercial door types (760mm wide doors wouldn't be used often in commercial buildings), but I can change the parameters to make whatever size door you want.

 

Peter

Thanks, Peter. I have just placed an order with Shapeways for the bulk pack of types 5, 6 and 7. I have some station buildings to make for the new layout and these will be a big help. Appreciate your efforts.

By the way, as regards glazing. I'll wait until I see them but it depends on the thickness of the material. In some cases it is possible to put the glazing behind the aperture but if the material is thicker then it shouldn't be too much trouble to put the glazing in the window opening itself. This should be made easier by the aperture being a standard width and to cut strips of glazing that can be then cut to the height of the opening. I'll let you know how I get on.

David

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the reply. In my case I am mostly interested in the type of doors that are used on traditional railway buildings. Having looked at your Shapeways site I would identify the following as being of interest:

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1816292/door-type-5-4mm-scale.html?modelId=1816292&materialId=62

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1816312/door-type-6-4mm-scale.html?modelId=1816312&materialId=62

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1816478/door-type-7-4mm-scale.html?modelId=1816478&materialId=62

Obviously the types 5 and 6, being single doors, are more common that the type 7 and prospective quantities would likely be higher. I would expect that these three types would have appeal to N scalers if they were available. Although I scratchbuild most of my structures I am not prolific so I would have to leave it to you to maybe nominate some economical quantities.

David

14 different types of 3D printed doors have been released today.

 

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These can be made to suit any size you want. Each type is illustrated as a 760mm, 810mm, 900mm and 1000mm wide door, 1980mm high (or two of these when double doors). The pricing is to give an indication of the cost. I will make up individual sets on a customer by customer basis. For example a small terraced house might require a 900mm front door and 5 or 6 760mm internal doors and a 810 back door. As the computer models are parametric it is easy to adjust any size to suit.

 

The installation method is as per the windows. Cut a hole in the card or plastic wall and glue the door into the opening using the architrave flange on the printed door to hold it in place.

 

Peter

Hi Peter,

I'm really interested in some of these doors in N but they are showing on your Shapeways shop as being 'not for sale'. This also applies to the 4mm versions. Has there been a problem in producing them?

David

I would have thought that a couple of spots of epoxy would do the trick.  Enough to hold it but not so much that I can't break it off later.  That's what I'm planning to do with mine.

Agreed, Rabs. I've done it with my Higgs 04 chassis. Motor is packed up from the frame spacer with bits of plastic card and the mesh is checked under power with the motor held by some double-sided tape. If this is ok the tape can be removed and replaced with some epoxy.

As you suggest, the joint is strong enough for normal conditions but can be broken with a knife blade if necessary.

David

I have been struggling all day to remember the  name of the young Everton midfielder who played for  England before moving to Man City - where he has disappeared without trace, Ross Barkley has replaced him both at Goodison and in Brazil. Hope he enjoys watching from home.

That'll be Jack Rodwell, finest footballer to come out of Southport since Jimmy Rimmer! He's had lots of injuries (16 appearances over two years) but is suffering the same fate as Scott Sinclair. Still time for both of them to turn their careers around but it may not be at City. (Also see Adam Johnson)

David

Hi.

 

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Julia

That is really excellent, Julia. Any chance of some laserglaze . . . ?

David

 

It would REALLY make my day if Man U made Sam Allardyce an offer he couldn't refuse.........

Be careful what you wish for. Big Sam is an old mate of Sir Alex . . .

David

He took four points off the Arsenal. Our usual 'rabbit in the headlights' performances against United

He also got to discover the truth about Van Persie. One decent season for Arsenal, followed by one for United then the glass limbs kicked in again. He just roused himself long enough from the treatment table to score the winner against us at Old Trafford.

David

Recently I've been building some buffer stops from the types offered by the 2mm Scale Association. There is a range of twelve types of etched kits and which are due to some excellent work by Chris Higgs. Just two types are featured here, the LMS/BR type and an LNWR example.

First a front view of all three:

Rear view:

LMS/BR:

LNWR:

They've all been built on adapted Templot prints with the sleepers slightly rearranged in accordance with the prototype photos. Unlike the rest of the layout which uses ply sleepers, the buffer stops have been built on pcb sleepers so that they could be soldered to them. One of the LNWR stops has 9' sleepers to match those on the rest of the siding. After all the soldering is completed, chopped up Easitrac chairs have been glued to the sleepers. Before painting the gaps in the sleepers will be filled.

All in all these are an excellent production and I can thoroughly recommend them.

David

What a delightful scene! The loco looks suitably sad to find itself in the reduced circumstances of its surroundings. As always, Neil, the textures that you produce in the scenic work are quite stunning. The timbers in the broken pier have just the look of old, sea-battered wood.

As has been commented, the back story is a lovely scene-setter. The concept of the 'Schadenfreude' setting out from the Belgian port of Ennui really made me giggle.

David

Not wanting to hijack Don's thread, but a quick question to David, in the photos of your trackwork, where did you source the chairs? I ask as I'm thinking about going the same route as yourself - timber sleepers and code 40 rail - but I can't seem to find rail chairs by the bag full.

 

Andy

Hi Andy,

The chairs are supplied by the 2mm Scale Association. If you look here:

http://www.2mm.org.uk/products/shops.php?shop_num=1

at item 1-181. The sprues were originally supplied for completing turnouts as the ordinary Easitrac mouldings are supplied for plain track. Some of us though have rather taken to the idea of ply sleepers and plastic chairs for building all our track as practiced in other scales. We also have an arrangement with a caster to turn the sprues into the equivalent in cast brass which can be used in conjunction with pcb sleepers at certain strategic locations in turnouts both for strength and passing current between adjacent rails. 1/32nd (0.8mm) ply is the same thickness as 2mm Association pcb sleepers so there is no problem with differences in height.

As with other societies you have to be a member to purchase items but if you are modelling 2FS or N then membership will be a great advantage in accessing a large range of products which are not available through normal trade outlets. End of advertisement! :-)

David

 

I think Ians conversion is really good. I love those 3D printed gears he has done and am interested in how they perform with the muffs included.

 

M

Oh dear, no pressure there then   The gears are on the way so I better start drawing out those frames . . . and the 14xx/58xx will just have to wait.

I'm fairly confident that with the leisurely life that my locos lead (no pounding around 'Fencehouses' for them  ) that wear is unlikely to be an issue.

David

David

 

Could you enlighten us a little more regarding the Terrier conversion. Something I've been hoping for since Dapol introduced the loco.

 

Pete

Peter,

Sorry, I meant to include the link to Shapeways:

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1396146/replacement-2mmfs-terrier-gears-with-muffs.html?li=search-results&materialId=61

Ian refers to the conversion article in the Association magazine which I assume is the one that you wrote.

David

Alan,

I've built two of these chassis' and I'm just starting the third. In both cases I have removed the part of the gearbox that would be nearest to the motor. On the Pannier the motor is at the rear in the cab and on the 04 it is at the front in the bonnet. In both cases I haven't used the spacer method that Chris designed in that would be to the rear of the motor. I have fitted a long conventional pcb spacer that will sit directly under the motor which enables it to have more support. A piece of plastic card sits between the motor and the spacer to enable the motor to sit at the correct height. In the case of the 04 the Nigel Lawton motor is super-glued to the plastic card. Henk has recommended this in the past and, as he says, should the motor need replacement it is fairly easy to break the glue bond although it is more than adequate under normal operation. The Pannier has an Association can motor but I am so impressed with the Lawton motor that I am going to fit one to the Pannier.

As far as flexing of the gearbox is concerned I think that we are back in the realms of how much actual stress the mechanism is under in a 2mm loco and the answer is probably very little.

The 04 will be with me at Nottingham on Sunday if you want to have a look, otherwise I can bring them to the NEAG meeting at the beginning of April.

I have just started on a 14xx chassis but this may be pushed backwards by a possible Terrier conversion prompted by the imminent arrival of some of Ian Morgan's 3D printed conversion gears!

David