RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Derby Works 1978 One thing that has puzzled me with APT power cars is the two sets of ETH cables, anyone why? Lower down is a horn as there are a set of basic driving controls behind the door 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthBox Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, russ p said: Lower down is a horn as there are a set of basic driving controls behind the door Well I’ve learnt something new today! I can’t imagine many circumstances where you’d want the thing to trundle about on its own but I suppose it might come in handy on a depot. Were driving controls provided at the other end too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, PerthBox said: Well I’ve learnt something new today! I can’t imagine many circumstances where you’d want the thing to trundle about on its own but I suppose it might come in handy on a depot. Were driving controls provided at the other end too? I can't remember if both ends have them . Would be useful when forming up sets , this was a well thought out train and not as permanently fixed as modern units . Also had generators in each driving car for emergency aircon and heating 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, PerthBox said: Well I’ve learnt something new today! I can’t imagine many circumstances where you’d want the thing to trundle about on its own but I suppose it might come in handy on a depot. Were driving controls provided at the other end too? Apparently both ends 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2251 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 19:14, The Stationmaster said: Most likely because there wasn't enough space to arrange the Down platform in any other way - although that does to some extent depend on what was built when. It is worth remembering that Pen Mill had an overall roof until some point in the 1940s or 1950s, but the removal of the overall roof did not result in an alteration of the basic platform arrangement as it had come to be. There are some photos half-way down this page: https://www.yeovilhistory.info/penmillstation.htm I am not at all sure what the platform arrangement was when the overall roof was first built, but how it came to be makes more sense once one appreciates that it started out with an overall roof. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I wonder whether it was a single-sided, one platform station, in broad gauge days, probably with the platform much shorter, and that there wasn’t room to fit double track and another platform inside the shed, even with standard gauge, so it had to poke out on the other side. It is certainly an interesting station, especially with the overall roof, and when I last had a proper look (c1982!!!) it still had bags of GWR features. Yeovil was well-blessed with interesting railway features, and the hills make them easy to observe, and add a picturesque quality, making it all look like a complicated toy train set. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 56020 Derby Works 1955 by David Hills 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) On 27/06/2022 at 09:39, russ p said: One thing that has puzzled me with APT power cars is the two sets of ETH cables, anyone why? Lower down is a horn as there are a set of basic driving controls behind the door From the APT Technical Training Notes: This is mentioned elsewhere in the notes regarding moving various combinations of trains/vehicles. Basically a 'brake release' button held down by the man standing in the gangway. Doesn't mention a horn though. Regarding the ETH sockets - the 2x2 sockets are for the 510V supply to the train Motor Alternator sets located in the Van First vehicles (TBF). Also provided are a 415V 3-phase auxiliary supply and 3 multiway Control Jumpers. The Diesel Alternator sets (mounted behind the cabs in the DTS vehicles) will take over from MA sets if faulty or if the train is being hauled by a locomotive. If two Power Cars are used, they have a 25kV link between them (presumably between roof-mounted bus-bars) which can only be attached/detached away from or under isolated Catenary. Edited June 28, 2022 by keefer 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Derby Works 1980 by Chris 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Seat Trim Material Stores Van Three Bridges Depot 1987 by Adrian Nicholls 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2022 Not got a full set of mk3's to go with your prototype HST power cars, but got a spare half APT-P rake? Look no further...... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50A55B Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Lovely juxtaposition, APT and oil tail lamp. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, 50A55B said: Lovely juxtaposition, APT and oil tail lamp. Yes, I thought that too. Think this deserves to be in Prototype for Everything Corner as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2022 16 hours ago, 50A55B said: Lovely juxtaposition, APT and oil tail lamp. Not many electric tail lamps about back then and in any case more or less confined to specific workings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50A55B Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Not many electric tail lamps about back then and in any case more or less confined to specific workings Indeed. I only remember electric tail lamps on fuel tank trains and ECML expresses at that time. The electric lamps were very different to those used now. Edited June 30, 2022 by 50A55B Additional clarity 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 For that small industrial scene layout? Quote From Andy Kirkham APR 74 04. 45111 Grenadier Guardsman at Holman Bros works Camborne, April 16 1974 From the other side of the level crossing(?). There's nothing like a good pile of metal. From the condition, one might have at first assumed it was scrap, but more likely it's cast ingots intended for the Holman Bros metal works production. 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted June 30, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2022 Not on Flickr, but a truly amazing picture that was just posted on the Railway Identification Group on facebook https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1698121310562052&set=gm.1700956286932474 I'll put the location in a separate post. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Ireland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2251 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Ireland? Tewkesbury! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Mornington Crescent! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 I'm posting this because it's one of those items that is popular with model manufacturers, but you don't actually see many pictures of them. Derby Litchurch Lane Carriage Works 1977 by John Woolley 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 30, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: I'm posting this because it's one of those items that is popular with model manufacturers, but you don't actually see many pictures of them. Derby Litchurch Lane Carriage Works 1977 by John Woolley Wonder why it doesn't have an M suffix 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Nearholmer said: Mornington Crescent! In a dark corner of which, Dr Who's Tardis starts metamorphing into something strangely new ... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, russ p said: Wonder why it doesn't have an M suffix They seemed to stop applying the regional suffix around 1974. Presumably this had something to do with TOPS Edited June 30, 2022 by Fat Controller 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 12 hours ago, russ p said: Wonder why it doesn't have an M suffix Have another look at the picture. To me it has an M suffix M31024. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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