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Sketches of "The depot"

Posted by Mikkel , in The Depot 12 December 2009 · 2,031 views

Depot snackbox
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Here's a first attempt to visualize "The depot", drawn with the Sketchup programme. As mentioned earlier, it will be constructed within an Ikea "Snackbox". The scenic part will be raised to allow ample room for electrics etc in the space underneath. I've used the same principle as on "The bay", where the viewing side is opposite of what you'd normally do. The idea is to increase the sense of being "inside" the scene, rather than viewing it from a distance.


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So we're standing inside the shed and looking at the last couple of platforms ("decks"), with an opening to the cartage platform and yard in the background. Hopefully the wagons moving back and forth on the reception siding in the yard will help add to the sense of depth.


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Sadly there won't be any horseboxes on the real thing - these are just to give an impression as I couldn't find any vans and wagons. Thanks to ngauge kid and wild goose for posting some GWR stock on the Sketchup site.


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It will be important to ensure that plenty of light enters the depot, or it may appear a bit dark and dull. These skylights are just an example, I'll want to look closer at prototype examples.


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If things work out I'm hoping for some interesting play of light, with light coming in from above but also from the opening to the yard. The windows in the side are wishful thinking at this point, but I might cut a hole in the side of the Snackbox to allow light to enter this way also.


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A view of the small section of the yard at the back, with reception siding and horse drawn carriages etc. This could become cramped if I don't take care - but a light ground cover and the "less is more" approach can hopefully help avoid that.


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A view from the yard side with the backscene removed. The backscene can easily be dismantled, so I'm considering making the layout viewable from this side also on occasion. That would require an alternative backscene which shows the rest of the depot behind the viewable platforms. Perhaps a photo of a depot scene, or even the old mirror trick (although how to do away with the duplication when shunting stock?).
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A very nice idea - I particularly like the siding towards the rear which will really give depth - am watching with interest...
I'm really looking forward to seeing this develop as another example of your constrained viewpoint approach. The goods depot is an ideal choice for this approach. I agree that the yard section at the back should be kept fairly simple, but it will be interesting to see what balance you can achieve between minimalism and the often hectic and crowded appearance of some photos I've seen of goods shed interiors.

Nick
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Miss Prism
Dec 12 2009 16:59
I love these peek-a-boo cameos. Strictly speaking, cart roads should be wide enough for them to turn, but I think we can pretend Mikkel's is a one-way arrangement! I think my major comment is about the big aperture in the rear wall of the depot. Also, the far road seemed to me to need a bit more of an excuse for its existence. Anyway, in a effort to "busy the scene up", here's a scribble.

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Hi Mikkel :)

I like the idea of this. It will look fantastic with the dappled light gleaming through the windows. A little bit of haze/mist/smoke/ will help too. Oh, and you know its just screaming to be broad gauge :P

M.:)

A very nice idea - I particularly like the siding towards the rear which will really give depth - am watching with interest...


Thanks for that. This Sketchup drawing programme is a good help, although it doesn??
Far be it from me to tempt you further with thoughts of the broad gauge, but the large opening in the rear wall reminds me of the roof supported only by columns in Brunel's Bristol goods shed. See the well-known lithograph of 1846 by J.C. Bourne (Plate 527 in Vaughan's 'Pictorial History of Great Western Architecture' and elsewhere, though a quick web search failed to locate an on-line version). This is a far more beautiful structure than its steel-framed and corrugated sheet covered successor, though both appear to have an open side. As far as I can tell, such arrangements were not common.

Nick
[quote name='Mikkel' date='13 December 2009 - 09:22 ']
This Sketchup drawing programme is a good help, although it doesn??
The rendering gives a great insight as to how your layout is going to turn out, looks like it's going to be really good!! The inside-out viewing appears to work really well from those mockups, I can see it oozing atmosphere already. :)

Just one question though, you say this is going to fit into a "snack box". Just how big are your snacks in Denmark?? :lol:

Far be it from me to tempt you further with thoughts of the broad gauge, but the large opening in the rear wall reminds me of the roof supported only by columns in Brunel's Bristol goods shed.
Nick


Interesting, Nick. The book you mention is on my wish list (though it's looking like yet more sweaters this year, I'm afraid!). I found a small drawing from the Bristol shed on page 6 of this publication, it does look very modellable (is that a word?):
http://www.plymouth....unel_panels.pdf


It is as they always say "a picture tells a thousand words".

Kenton, I also struggle with Sketchup. It took me ages to make this. But I'm amazed at what some people can do with it. Eg locos such as this:
http://sketchup.goog...c4a&prevstart=0

Burkitt's plan here is also pretty good:
http://www.rmweb.co....ering-the-plan/


Just one question though, you say this is going to fit into a "snack box". Just how big are your snacks in Denmark?? Posted Image


Huge! Posted Image No seriously, it's Ikea's name for the storage box I'm using to house the layout. See this blog entry:

http://www.rmweb.co....he-goods-depot/

Interesting, Nick. The book you mention is on my wish list (though it's looking like yet more sweaters this year, I'm afraid!). I found a small drawing from the Bristol shed on page 6 of this publication, it does look very modellable (is that a word?):
http://www.plymouth....unel_panels.pdf

Look on the bright side, it could be socks :rolleyes: But, seriously, you really should try to get a copy of Vaughan. It is one of my favourite railway books. I've had my copy for nearly thirty years, during most of which I was not an active modeller but I often dug it out to read or look through the pictures. Since I've got back into modelling, its been invaluable as so many of the photos contain other little bits of information that are difficult to find elsewhere.

Thanks for the link, I'd looked at similar Brunel 200 material but not found that one. And, yes, that is the Bourne lithograph that I was referring to, although it has been cropped at the sides and is too small to see the wealth of detail.

Nick

ps. yes, modellable is a word as, indeed, is modellability...:wacko:
Oh there will be socks as well, I'm sure...

Interesting how you mention "looking at pictures" in the Vaughan book. I know what you mean. I think this is an often underrated part of railway modelling. When we build models I'll bet that we subconsciously draw on a lot of the impressions and tacit knowledge that we picked up by "looking at pictures" - even when we were not looking for anything in particular. Of course it can dangerous too if we remember wrongly, but I'm sure it gives a lot of important background impressions.
Hi

I usually would not bump a thread like this but here goers.

I was the guy who produced the model of the GWR horebox.

However they are currently not upladed. If there is any interest i would be prepared to to rework the models a bit and reupolad them.

Thank you for your interest.
Hi ngaugekid, and once again thanks for providing the horseboxes on the Sketchup site.

I'm amazed at the level of detail some of the stuff on there has. Sadly I haven't had a chance to improve my own Sketchup skills any further, so am still dependent on people like you generously making their work available. :good_mini:

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