Andy Y Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Continuing its long tradition of producing the latest streamlined high-speed trains, Hornby will release a Hitachi Class 800 bi-mode multiple unit in 2017. The OO gauge models will be released as the first full-size trains start to enter service with Great Western Railway (GWR) between London Paddington and Bristol. First to appear will be a GWR green five-car set (R3514) containing two Driving Trailer cars and three Motor second Open (MSO) vehicles. A limited edition pair of Driving Trailers in Hitachi test train livery (R3579) is also expected. No fewer than 122 IEP trains are being built to replace Inter-City 125 and Class 91+Mk 4 IC225 sets between now and 2020. GWR and Virgin Trains East Coast will take the majority of the fleet, but similar bi-mode trains have also been ordered by Hull Trains and Transpennine Express. VTEC will have a mix of bi-mode and AC electric sets, but all other trains will now be five or nine-car bi-mode EMUs with powerful underfloor diesel engines. Designated ‘Super Express Train’ (SET) by Hitachi, they are based on the company’s ‘A-Train’ concept and related to SouthEastern’s Class 395 ‘Javelin’ EMUs. They also share many components with Hitachi ‘Bullet Trains’ for Japanese railways. At 26 metres long, Class 800-802 cars are the first British passenger vehicles with bodyshells long than the previous 23m (75ft) ‘C3’ restriction. Hornby’s designers have been working with Hitachi since 2014 to develop a OO gauge model of the new train, which was revealed at the Warley NEC show on November 26. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) The Great Western set will be lovely. Whilst I've been very critical of the IEP acquisition process I do think it is a good looking train and the GW livery is very attractive. Elegant, understated but attractive. Interesting they're selling it as a 5 car set too. Edited November 26, 2016 by jjb1970 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 I always think the name super express train sounds like something you'd find on a cheap plastic kids train set in a seaside gift shop. Horrible really ,just like the real train! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bump?Not seen this thread before. Has Mr. York used his magic admin powers to hide it until just now? I think so. Bump Can I please be the first to say "hmph. Nothing in this model for me"? Really not interested in the real thing either (an age thing you see...) but that engineering drawing looks very impressive indeed. Mind you, it might look very nice re-painted into IC Swallow livery... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Models of 26m stock running round train-set curves are likely to cause some interesting clearance issues with whatever might be running on the inner track. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 I suspect Hornby will announce a train set version once Virgin's Azumas enter service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Perfect timing and great PR opportunity for GWR and Hornby, with Virgin as part of a trainset for Christmas next year most likely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Ah, an ideal 'electric' train for running on lines without catenary - NR's gift to the model railway industry! (and I do of course hope that Hornby will do well with it - they deserve to with an initiative like this) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 My gosh the 5 car IEP is £375, so must be a proper model rather than the trainset model. Perhaps a 'rapier' version will be released in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hornbys website is saying that there are only two of R3579 left? Does this mean they have virtually sold out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFR Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Hornbys website is saying that there are only two of R3579 left? Does this mean they have virtually sold out? Looks like they're now sold out EDIT Still there to order Edited November 26, 2016 by TFR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluo66 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Two Hitachis, the Realtrack 156 and a Colas Class 60 announced. That's too much for my credit card. Can anybody send me a pm with his credit card number... ;-) Well done Hornby! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Models of 26m stock running round train-set curves are likely to cause some interesting clearance issues with whatever might be running on the inner track. John If you've got an APT-E and run that on your train-set curves and already carried modifications for that, It's a good bet this shouldn't cause any problems for the Class 800. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bit of a no brainer, as its new, high speed and in GWR green. Its a pity they haven`t done a electrostar to go with it, which they could have also done for south of the thames. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bit of a no brainer, as its new, high speed and in GWR green. Its a pity they haven`t done a electrostar to go with it, which they could have also done for south of the thames. They would have to do an unpowered version for Southern, as the operator is always suffering from industrial action! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Bit of a no brainer, as its new, high speed and in GWR green. Its a pity they haven`t done a electrostar to go with it, which they could have also done for south of the thames. It's a pity they couldn't have done all the things on my wishlist, too. Still, let's not p1ss on everyone else's parade, shall we! Given that even yesterday some people were stating their belief that Hornby would announce almost nothing today, I think it's a bloody good programme. And no, there's absolutely nothing there for me. And I really don't mind. Paul 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelpara Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I dread to think how much it would cost to model a full 9 car set then if the 5 car is 375.00 Hopefully the extra coaches will be available to bring it up to a 9 car train 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 I dread to think how much it would cost to model a full 9 car set then if the 5 car is 375.00 But 5 cars, including one (?) powered comes out at an average of £75 per vehicle so it's pretty much contemporary ball park - just that it all comes in one hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 Given the 20% or so devaluation of sterling relative to the dollar we've seen I think the price is where I'd expect it to be. This should serve Hornby well as it'll become the standard inter city train for much of the UK for the next few decades. Get it right and the tooling could be a real cash cow for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Ah, an ideal 'electric' train for running on lines without catenary - NR's gift to the model railway industry! I'm sure the irony will not be lost on the good burghers of Bath, who will surely be happy to see the Hornby versions in the shops of that fair city, well before the real thing graces the railway through Bath Spa station. Just had another thought, I think I might request a sample model and take it down to Dawlish and see how well it does during the occasional storm. Edited November 26, 2016 by Captain Kernow 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I suppose seeing these Hitachi trains coming in must be like seeing HSTs displace Deltics and Westerns. Some happy about the future, some seeing it as "wrong, just wrong" and most of the travelling public not caring about anything either way. I suppose the only people who will really be able to objectively criticise these will be those who used to work building real trains or its model version. I wonder if we can persuade the government to buy these for us and let us pay them back well below market price as a subsidised lease... (not meant to be political, just satire btw) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The most predicted model from Hornby? I recall seeing so many suggest that Hornby would do the Class 800/801 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Back when I joined this forum it was an "in" joke to talk about someone releasing a Blue Pullman. Bachmann did, and ever since it has been raining fabulous models. Never had it so good as the man said. Ed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 For anyone still looking for the Limited Edition 800, they appear to be available for pre-order again.... http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2017/hitachi-iep-bi-mode-class-800-0-limited-edition.html Best regards Mr B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelpara Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 For anyone still looking for the Limited Edition 800, they appear to be available for pre-order again.... http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2017/hitachi-iep-bi-mode-class-800-0-limited-edition.html Best regards Mr B Any idea if you have to pay up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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