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1/16th scale Sopwith Camel


wenlock

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Apologies for the lack of blog entries over the last few months, life sometimes gets in the way of modelling! I’ve managed to rupture my Achilles’ tendon, so I’m hopping about in a Vacoped boot with my ankle locked in an equinus position.  Getting up the steps into the workshop is a bit of a hassle, so as way of compensating for not being able to play trains I’ve been building something not railway related🙂

 

I’ve long been fascinated by WW1 aircraft and used to build and fly radio controlled balsa versions, before returning to railway modelling 20 or so years ago.  Hasegawa make a 1/16 scale plastic kit of a Sopwith Camel without its fabric covering, so all the ribs and stringers are exposed in the finished model.

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 I’ve fancied having a go at simulating wood grain using oil paints on top of a base coat for a while now and after watching videos on YouTube felt confident enough to have a go. Hopefully the results on the model are convincing, it certainly looks better to my eye than the brown plastic the kit was moulded in!  I wanted to represent the turnbuckles on the rigging wires which the kit does not include, but found some suitable tubing in a fishing tackle shop meant for tying flies 🙂

 

It’s been an interesting diversion and I’m pleased with the end result, but I promise I will get on and finish that rake of coaches I started two years ago soon!
 

Here are some pictures of the finished model.


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Until next time!

 

Best wishes

 

Dave

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1 hour ago, Jeff Smith said:

wenlock - there are 5 different versions on the current website under 4mm coaches

Hi Jeff, unfortunately my layout and stock are 7mm scale, so lovely as the 4mm coaches are they won’t be any use to me🙂  It does explain why I couldn’t find them on the Roxey site, I was looking under “7mm coaches”

 

My fault entirely, I should have mentioned the scale I was working in!

 

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Glad to see you posting again Dave, I hope the ankle is better and that the consultant was a good one. All this aviation business is a dangerous lure and we need to get you back into playing trains ASAP.

 

That said, what a beautiful machine that Camel is. I think the model would have made the original builders proud. 

 

 

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Thanks Mikkel,

 

Yes, lure is the right word!  I promise to get back on track, pun intended in the very near future! I’ve actually made some progress on my clerestory coach, which is nearly ready for public consumption 🙂

 

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That's good news. Is it the D14? I'm building a C10 and was just looking at your two earlier posts about the D14, and wondering if I has missed the finale.

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On 11/04/2022 at 18:10, Mikkel said:

That's good news. Is it the D14? I'm building a C10 and was just looking at your two earlier posts about the D14, and wondering if I has missed the finale.

Hi Mikkel,

 

Yes it is indeed the D14🙂  The “finale” is fast approaching after a 2 year hiatus! I struggle with motivation building coaches, they seem to take forever to get right, give me a loco to build any day!  I shall take a look at your 4mm build, I made some about 25 years ago and they are beautifully detailed kits, but again took me what felt like forever to build 😄

 

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Dave

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Yes, I have been going over the remaining detailing jobs for the C10 today, quite a lot. I'm pragmatic and may draw a line somewhere. I like the sentence at the end of the 4mm kit instructions which effectively says "there are now some bits left in the kit but we're not sure where exactly they were fitted" 😄

 

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39 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

we're not sure where exactly they were fitted

...they didn't know in 7mm scale either. Nor did I.  The're still in the box, rather more than 20 years later.

 

As for the Camel, it's a wonderful model, beautifully built - a work of art as well as ingenuity.

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On 15/04/2022 at 19:59, Mikkel said:

Yes, I have been going over the remaining detailing jobs for the C10 today, quite a lot. I'm pragmatic and may draw a line somewhere. I like the sentence at the end of the 4mm kit instructions which effectively says "there are now some bits left in the kit but we're not sure where exactly they were fitted" 😄

 

A bit of pragmatism is definitely sensible, particularly in 4mm scale.  The gas piping for the coach lighting took me ages, but is really conspicuous so looks incomplete if it’s not there.  Whether time is well spent building the little etched luggage racks is debatable in my opinion, you can’t really see them in the finished coach! Looking forward to watching your progress on the C10🙂

 

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On 15/04/2022 at 20:37, kitpw said:

...they didn't know in 7mm scale either. Nor did I.  The're still in the box, rather more than 20 years later.

 I made an educated guess as to where the bits in question were fitted, but I could be completely wrong so yours was probably the more sensible approach!🙂

 

On 15/04/2022 at 20:37, kitpw said:

As for the Camel, it's a wonderful model, beautifully built - a work of art as well as ingenuity.

Kit PW

Thanks Kit, I’m delighted that you think so!
 

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Fine work, Dave. Sorry I didn't notice this blog entry until you - ahem - tactfully directed me to it! A really lovely evocation of the Sopwith Camel indeed. The quality of finish is far superior to anything I achieve in aeromodelling.

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Here's your next project Dave 😄. I came across a photo the other day and was intrigued, the caption does not give much detail but perhaps a "Short Folder" of some sort. I wonder if they were ever carried on the railway - possibly out of gauge!

 

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A curious picture indeed!  The wings must be very short as although the tips are visible behind the engine they are not visible behind the car further forward.

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16 hours ago, Barry Ten said:

Fine work, Dave. Sorry I didn't notice this blog entry until you - ahem - tactfully directed me to it! A really lovely evocation of the Sopwith Camel

Thanks Al, I’m glad you like the Sopwith 🙂

 

16 hours ago, Barry Ten said:

The quality of finish is far superior to anything I achieve in aeromodelling.

Oh I don’t know about that, your aircraft models are lovely!
 

7 hours ago, Mikkel said:

Here's your next project Dave 😄. I came across a photo the other day and was intrigued, the caption does not give much detail but perhaps a "Short Folder" of some sort. I wonder if they were ever carried on the railway - possibly out of gauge!

 

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What an unusual little aircraft!  I wonder how long it took to assemble and prepare for a flight?

 

2 hours ago, Jeff Smith said:

A curious picture indeed!  The wings must be very short as although the tips are visible behind the engine they are not visible behind the car further forward.

The wings do look very short, but have quite a thick chord. It’s certainly no glider!
 

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10 hours ago, Mikkel said:

the caption does not give much detail

I think the picture's reproduced from "101 Things to do with an Old Filing Cabinet".

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3 hours ago, wenlock said:

Thanks Al, I’m glad you like the Sopwith 🙂

 

Oh I don’t know about that, your aircraft models are lovely!
 

What an unusual little aircraft!  I wonder how long it took to assemble and prepare for a flight?

 

The wings do look very short, but have quite a thick chord. It’s certainly no glider!
 

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Only a two cylinder engine, probably not much more power than a powered glider, but the fixed pitch prop would have too much drag to switch off in flight!

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Very impressive wood effects, and also the metal effect (cowling, engine etc) looks very realistic.  What did you use for the rigging, or does that come as, say, moulded rod?  (You said you'd added the turnbuckles from tubing).

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On 27/04/2022 at 06:40, Mikkel said:

Here's your next project Dave 😄. I came across a photo the other day and was intrigued, the caption does not give much detail but perhaps a "Short Folder" of some sort. I wonder if they were ever carried on the railway - possibly out of gauge!

 

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I've seen tidier lash-ups thrown into the backs of vans after model railway shows!

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23 hours ago, railroadbill said:

Very impressive wood effects, and also the metal effect (cowling, engine etc) looks very realistic. 

Thanks RR Bill, it was my first go at painting wood grain , so I’m particularly pleased that you think it looks good🙂

 

23 hours ago, railroadbill said:

What did you use for the rigging, or does that come as, say, moulded rod?  (You said you'd added the turnbuckles from tubing).

The kit supplies rigging thread which you just thread through eyelets that are formed as part of the plastic mouldings then after tensioning secured with a drop of cyanoacrylate glue.

 

7 hours ago, Barry Ten said:

 

I've seen tidier lash-ups thrown into the backs of vans after model railway shows!

Thats because we’ve done a few shows now an got packing down to a fine art🤣

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16 hours ago, wenlock said:

Thanks RR Bill, it was my first go at painting wood grain , so I’m particularly pleased that you think it looks good🙂

 

The kit supplies rigging thread which you just thread through eyelets that are formed as part of the plastic mouldings then after tensioning secured with a drop of cyanoacrylate glue.

 

 

Thanks for that, I've been having problems rigging a 1;72 tiger moth with EZ-line, fiddly in that scale. Did once build a large scale Sopwith Camel, a Keilkraft rubber powered one when I was a teenager,  a rather tail heavy design to fly properly though. :-)

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2 hours ago, railroadbill said:

Thanks for that, I've been having problems rigging a 1;72 tiger moth with EZ-line, fiddly in that scale. 

Wow 1/72 scale rigging must be seriously fiddly! I’ve done a few 1/32 scale biplanes with EZ lines along with the telegraph wires on my layout, but nothing that tiny🙂

 

2 hours ago, railroadbill said: Did once build a large scale Sopwith Camel, a Keilkraft rubber powered one when I was a teenager,  a rather tail heavy design to fly properly though. :-)

Yep camels have an incredibly short nose and little room to put weight to bring the centre of gravity forward enough, I imagine it was a touch lively!😃

 

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Sorry to read about your tendon Dave, must be a bu99er.  Superb job on the wood finish. I remember as a boy my Grandfather using scumbling to replicate wood grain on some french doors.  

Thinking about your Coach idea.. Peter Smiths Saltdean Layout has some lovely coaches there were articles on how he made his stock in the Gazette. I think there should be a suitable LBSCR family saloon that could run into Sherton Abbas probably family visiting.  I think Peter did his wood panelling on the computer then stuck that onto a coach body. Obviously you could paint the coach direct.

 I was sorry to miss SWAG family do I think you were there.

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31 minutes ago, Donw said:

Sorry to read about your tendon Dave, must be a bu99er.  Superb job on the wood finish. I remember as a boy my Grandfather using scumbling to replicate wood grain on some french doors.  

Thinking about your Coach idea.. Peter Smiths Saltdean Layout has some lovely coaches there were articles on how he made his stock in the Gazette. I think there should be a suitable LBSCR family saloon that could run into Sherton Abbas probably family visiting.  I think Peter did his wood panelling on the computer then stuck that onto a coach body. Obviously you could paint the coach direct.

 I was sorry to miss SWAG family do I think you were there.

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Don

Thanks Don, yes the tendon is a right bore! It’s knitted back together now, but I’ve still got another 5 weeks in this boot contraption 🙄  
 

An LBSCR family saloon is exactly what I’m after for Sherton, I hoped someone made a suitable 7mm kit, but I haven’t  been able to find anything.

 

Im afraid I’m a lapsed member of the Guild, so won’t be able access the articles about Peter’s  Saltdean stock.

 

Yes I went along to the SWAG day and thoroughly enjoyed it, always such a friendly event.  I hope you can come along next year, it’s been ages since we had chance for a chat.

 

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19 hours ago, ianmaccormac said:

Speak to Laurie Griffin about the saloons from LB&SCR. Cheers, Ian

Thanks Ian, I will certainly do that! 
 

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