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1:1 card/foam board mock up...

bcnPete

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Afternoon all,

 

Many thanks for the interest shown in this new project - I would also like to mention that Richard (Ben Alder) has been very kind in helping me with research and information for this. Richard as you probably know has already built a fab model of Thurso (and Kyle!) in 4mm which covers much more than my extract will - Worry not, Richard...I am sure my next project will be back in Kernow with China clay so I won't be shadowing your layouts no more ;)

 

As its half term week I decided to use the time to develop the next phase of the project - namely a 1:1 card/ foam board mock up and I gave myself the day to build it. One of the nice things about 2mm scale and smallish layouts allows mock ups to help flush out any initial problems with the build as well as help plan track requirements, position of magnets for uncoupling and general logistics.

 

I needed to make a few compromises (as these models try to capture an extract rather than a scale model of said location) and this one necessitates continuing the track in double under the bridge to allow run-a-round using the fiddle yard as per Kyle. This is due to the crossover being somewhat down the platform and I thought it was important to include this. The goods shed relationship to the train shed should be as per the prototype as I felt getting this right and keeping the crossover outweighed the tracks under the bridge.

 

The width has also been increased too to match the fiddle yard width and the tracks aligned with the two centre tracks. Originally I was thinking of matching the Kyle width of 132mm but that was driven by the box file dimensions and this layout has different criteria so rather than cramp it, I have matched the 165mm dimension.

 

The overall length of this board will be 1100mm (uncanny as same length as an IKEA lack shelf ;)) although I will be building these baseboards from 5mm acrylic to avoid the foam board twisting as on Kyle. This length will also allow two additional strip lights concealed in the fascia panel so they can plug into the others at a later date if I use the similar ones from Screwfix.

 

The fascia dimensions all match too and will be painted grey with the Thurso name in the top left hand corner above the train shed. Am thinking card construction again for this to keep down weight. There is a letterbox view on the front to see into the train shed and I will laser cut the roof trusses at work as these are quite fundamental to the shed interior. My youngest son has suggested building the other side of the roof (which has a linear roof light) as he is a little uncomfortable with it as is at present! This can be quickly tested on this mock up without being too precious about it.

 

The Goods shed may seem a bit high at present but it's probably the trains sit lower due to the paper track. I need to try and work out how to do the back scene too along the same lines of Kyle.

 

Overall, I am happy with this mock up as I can now develop further sketches and start to test some other ideas...like shortening the platform back by about 100mm. I do like the view across the platform (which was quite wide as this if you look at the prototype) as it will be a nice counterpoint to Kyle if I decide to exhibit the two together (it's being planned with that in mind too)

 

Here's a few pictures of the mock up with of course a bit of stock on it to help set the scene - the last shot is a classic shot seen of a 37 at Thurso if you google the location - it's fun playing trains with paper track :D

 

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As always, comments welcome,

 

Pete

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Hi Pete,

 

Looks great so far! I hadn't realised just how long it was and it will certainly be a cracking layout.

Good luck with the project

 

Best regards,

 

Jeremy

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Now that's looking good. :D

 

Excellent presentation as ever.  I can't believe how fast you knocked all that up.

 

Look forwards to seeing this progress. A great idea and one which utilises existing stock and fiddle yard.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark

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Hi Pete, Looks great so far! I hadn't realised just how long it was and it will certainly be a cracking layout. Good luck with the project
Thanks Jeremy...

 

Another one looking promising! Hope that you are well Pete.
Thanks also Alex - all well thanks...am quite excited by this new challenge...

 

Now that's looking good. :DExcellent presentation as ever.  I can't believe how fast you knocked all that up. Look forwards to seeing this progress. A great idea and one which utilises existing stock and fiddle yard.
Thanks Mark - am hoping to order some track from the Association...better hurry before Jeremy cleans them out for his latest micro :D (You're a brave man Jeremy!) Having the FY and a range of stock as you say will hopefully mean trains will run in the new year...

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Looks like it will become a very effective model Pete.

 

Thanks Kris - maintains my maximum 3 turnouts rule too (unless my turnout building skills can improve!)

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I did a double take there, Pete. This is cutting edge in my book. The genius is that the presentation and layout design are integrated. Ie it's not just about neat packaging, but about thinking trackplan, structures and presentation together.

 

The fiddle yard module is just brilliant. Show something like this to the public and people will begin to look differently at railway modelling.

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Pete,

 

Just to add my support for such a simple concept but excellently presented. I stopped many times in front of your layout over the Uckfield weekend and found something new to look at every time. Putting the two layouts together like this, running independently off the same fiddle yard, is a great idea, and there will be three things to look at within the space normally occupied by a single layout.

 

One suggestion though. The fiddle yard window encourages people to bend down to look inside. Would there be any problem with raising the overall height slightly? Peering 'in' is always better than peering 'down' in my view.

 

Good luck and I look forward to seeing progress.

 

Geraint Hughes

(Obbekaer)

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I did a double take there, Pete. This is cutting edge in my book. The genius is that the presentation and layout design are integrated. Ie it's not just about neat packaging, but about thinking trackplan, structures and presentation together. The fiddle yard module is just brilliant. Show something like this to the public and people will begin to look differently at railway modelling.
Many thanks for your kind comments Mikkel - I guess my models these days are informed from my day job - With Kyle, the fascia was a much latter addition which then set the parameters for the fiddle yard however with this one I knew how I wanted it to be from the outset...it's a bit OCD but I do like stuff to align... ;)

 

Pete, Just to add my support for such a simple concept but excellently presented. I stopped many times in front of your layout over the Uckfield weekend and found something new to look at every time. Putting the two layouts together like this, running independently off the same fiddle yard, is a great idea, and there will be three things to look at within the space normally occupied by a single layout. One suggestion though. The fiddle yard window encourages people to bend down to look inside. Would there be any problem with raising the overall height slightly? Peering 'in' is always better than peering 'down' in my view. Good luck and I look forward to seeing progress. Geraint Hughes(Obbekaer)
Many thanks also Geraint - thanks also for the suggestion re the slot - I will relook at that when I come to do the modifications to it (need to hack the end off for through running!) It's sole purpose was to allow the tray to slide out which just happened to give teaser views into the storage area but I might be able to increase the aperture slightly without compromising the images/proportions...

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Just found this Pete. Looks good.

 

I like the idea of reusing off stage stuff like fiddle yards (and presumably your support structure too?) - more time to spend on the actual modellng.

 

For a moment while looking at your third photo I thought you'd gone for the mirror trick with your overall roof but then figured out that there really was another coach in there.

 

Regards, Andy

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Just found this Pete. Looks good.

 

I like the idea of reusing off stage stuff like fiddle yards (and presumably your support structure too?) - more time to spend on the actual modellng.

 

For a moment while looking at your third photo I thought you'd gone for the mirror trick with your overall roof but then figured out that there really was another coach in there.

 

Many thanks Andy - yes, hopefully will use same support structure (even though I just chopped a metre off it :D) and FY gets a slight mod by changing the end of it.

 

No I will save the mirror gag for my 7mm Wenfordbridge project...which has just slipped back down the priority queue as am in full on 2FS mode at present ;)

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I know we joke about the IKEA connection from time to time but this model really wouldn't look out of place in one of their display rooms at the store!! :)

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I know we joke about the IKEA connection from time to time but this model really wouldn't look out of place in one of their display rooms at the store!! :)

 

Many thanks Mike!

 

Since I returned from BCN I have been trying not to rely on IKEA as much... :D

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I keep returning to this post. I am so very impressed with the presentation style - it's just really cool.

 

I like the way that certain views are provided to the audience to tease them into the scene as active members in the audience invited for a more intimate relationship with the model instead of just standing back in the crowd, perhaps more passively.

 

That neat view inside the station;

The way the single coach is framed almost providing a diorama vignette within the context of the greater layout;

And that traverser that breaks through the valance is still one of the neatest ideas I've ever seen.

 

This is perfect.

 

/chris

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I keep returning to this post. I am so very impressed with the presentation style - it's just really cool.

 

I like the way that certain views are provided to the audience to tease them into the scene as active members in the audience invited for a more intimate relationship with the model instead of just standing back in the crowd, perhaps more passively.

 

That neat view inside the station;

The way the single coach is framed almost providing a diorama vignette within the context of the greater layout;

And that traverser that breaks through the valance is still one of the neatest ideas I've ever seen.

 

This is perfect.

 

/chris

Chris, hi

 

Apologies as only just seen this - many thanks for your kind comments on the layout - I am an Architect so the presentation of the layout is very important to me...and making mock ups is a good way to tune the design and tweak as necessary.

 

I have changed the end of the fascia to remove the letter box view as some peeps were uncomfortable with this...however I am still in two minds whether that was the right thing or not...this has resulted in me having a break from it and making a small 7mm layout but I will return to this some time.

 

Thanks for the comments on the traverser too - it does get some nice comments at exhibitions.

 

Pete

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