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Going to be a busy weekend. Assisting on one of the club layouts at the WMRA club open day on Saturday then SWAG on Sunday. Rehearsal running tonight including giving the pre-owned loco from last year’s SWAG bring and buy table a test.
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1 hour ago, BoD said:
Did it break down or just have problems with adhesion.From a pax perspective it didn’t matter - an issue (from whatever cause*) meant the supplied locomotive failed to get the train to the destination. This was as opposed to something external to the operation of the rolling stock & locomotive, such as trespassers (human or animal) preventing the train continuing forwards.
*therefore including other potential things like dragging brakes, adverse railhead conditions and the like which even a fully functional loco could not overcome.
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7 hours ago, Sweet pea said:
I'm planning to build a micro diorama so I have somewhere to take pictures of my VEA Vans I seemed to have grown a fondness for. Also the diorama is where I can try out some new modelling techniques. As you can see by the picture a new Bachmann VEA van arrived this morning and then micro diorama baseboard has been built. A length of peco track has been cut to size and I'm thinking of having the track on top of an embankment. So for now a quick picture with more to follow..😉
Good luck.
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2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:
Good evening,
I don't know about the aerial weaponry in the later Dunkirk, but what stopped any belief in its authenticity was seeing green BR Mk.1s as the survivors journeyed back to London.
The original (John Mills) B&W Dunkirk from the late '50s was far superior.
Why is it that when railways are shown in movies (or on TV), very little thought seems to have been given to make sure they're 'accurate for period', or even place. James Bond, on his journey back from Istanbul in From Russia With Love, appears to be travelling overnight in an all-green train hauled by a Royal Scot! Shadowlands got it right, and Loughborough 'could have been' like Oxford in the film, especially as the locos were weathered.
Regards,
Tony.
It was filmed partly on Weymouth Quay. I gaven't been to see it but in the stills I have seen the well post war Pavillion Theatre is clearly visible in the background!
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On 17/04/2024 at 18:03, Willie Whizz said:
What baffles us with our Samsung TV with Sky dish is that when watching “ordinary” programmes in real-time the sound volume is fine if set around 20. But watching a recorded programme needs turning-up to about 28-30 to be satisfactory, and using our connected DVD player means having to go right up to a volume setting of 40. Weird.
I suppose I might be able to find a rationale and a remedy in the Instruction Manual - except that these days all you seem to get is a Quick Start guide …
Ours does the same.
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4 hours ago, Tony Wright said:
Good morning Bernard,
Thank you for your comments.
The tall signal is meant to be dominant! Right from French's time as signalling superintendent on the GNR, where possible, he insisted on sky backgrounds. In reality, that signal was over 50' high (pity the poor lamp-man).
A much darker sky? During daylight, apart from during approaching thunderstorms and when the scenery is snow-covered, the sky is usually the lightest tone in any scene. I was once astonished during my art school days when our tutor took us outside after a recent snow-fall. He put a mirror, flat on the snow, and the overcast sky was still as light as the snow!
I don't know many layouts where the lighting depicts the actual time of day (didn't Dave and Shirley Rowe produce a lighting masterclass on their Iberian layout?). Bytham's room lighting is a lot (LED strip-lights), spread consistently so as not to give too deep-shadows. I know this doesn't replicate the sun, but there's isn't enough 'internal atmosphere' to soften the shadows were I to have a single, powerful light-source. Cloudy but bright is what I try to achieve.
Ballast colour?
The ECML was usually ballasted using limestone, and very well-maintained. Norman Solomon used limestone for ballast on LB.
The rail sides would be rusty, but the overall ballast wouldn't be brown.
Regards,
Tony.
Yes, and it was still on show at Pecorama last time I visited. One or two of the minor lighting ‘cameos’ (to use the current buzz phrase) that I remembered like the cafe patio scene weren’t working but it holds up well despite the age.
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Mood is weird, mine is swinging like a mad pendulum currently from high to low then back again. Going to a friend’s funeral tomorrow, that is not helping today and obviously won’t tomorrow either.
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Memory is now getting hazy after being retired now for 16 years but IIRC from my days working, which for a while included a planning office support team role, railway operators are exempt from much of the planning regulations. If so will be why they aren’t showing up on the Local Auth’s online applications portal. I think they have to ask for observations but not actually get formal consent. Hopefully a current planning officer give the current position.
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On 11/04/2024 at 14:10, Worsdell forever said:
It's this stuff, think I got it from the pet shop behind McDonald's at teesside park.
I have used the sepiolite version of it too without problems so far.
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1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:
Being a sometimes cynical person, especially when it comes to the machination of WCRC, I have wondered if their clearly intended use of vehicles without opening quarter lights and not looking like the 'Hogwarts Express' vehicles is yet another ploy on their part? Are they hoping that customer reaction to these 'modern' coaches will lead to demands to reinstate 'the old coaches' on the train. Or do they really think they have lost the battle?
I could obviously be well wrong - but you never know with this bunch.
The interesting thing about this Rule Book extract is that it very clearly refers to defective doors. You need to read both TW1 and TW 5 to arrive at a slightly more comprehensive answer but even then it allows a bit of rope for operators to make their own Instructions. What the Rule Book modules do not seem to say anywhere is that it is required to bar passengers from travelling in a coach which has locked doors - but only from one with locked defective doors.
It is arguable, but not exactly stated as far as i could find when looking yesterday, that a coach not fitted with CDL amounts to the same as a coach with defective CDL. I would tend very much to regard it in that way (and would have done exactly that way back in the past when my job included ruling on interpretation of the Rules and Regulations
From my time in L Govt management before retirement going through London's edicts for the missed commas, misplaced words, sentences that didn't actually say what we knew they meant* and such like (which left loop-holes for things they missed thinking of blocking us from doing directly) was part of the job.
From posts up thread I have got the impression you (as in the train operator) can lock a door if (a) the adjacent vestibule door is openable & CDL fitted and (b) your concocted risk assessment shows that to be a low enough risk to be acceptable.
Possibly a second stab at getting around the obvious block on using non-CDL fitted Mk1s. Step one was taking them on in court arguing they really don't need their full rake of MK1s so fitted. This is step two in their campaign - the full rake is half-CDL half non-CDL, but hey all the useable doors are CDL fitted so we are compliant. Might be able to buy them some more time and revenue over and above any subsequent legal costs, even if they (ORR) say no it can't be done this way.
* we did the jobs so knew how it is done locally - they thought we did it in other ways or described the task wrongly so compliance with what they actually blocked wasn't an issue for us.
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13 hours ago, phil-b259 said:
If you mean securing all* doors with a railway staff issue carriage key then this would not be permissible because passengers would have no way of deactivating the locks in an emergency. CDL (and more modern systems) always have an emergency override facility inside and outside the carriage which allows the locking system to be disabled and the door opened.
*Its perfectly acceptable to lock some doors out of use at the planning stage (charter operators usually lock the middle doors on Mk1 stock out of use) - but I expect the exact number would depend on the outcome of a risk assessment (which would consider whether the locked door at the end of one carriage was right next door to a unlocked door in the next carriage for example.
And it is mildly irritating for pax when it is done as you see it, forget it is locked, and walk to the nearest door when boarding or leaving. Habit I guess from a lifetime using Mk1s. As on the local EMUs there only are end doors going to them is instinctive.
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Nice bit of press news about the Rowntrees version. https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/24251609.york-normandy-veteran-ken-coke-presented-model-his-train/
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So another one to add to the NYMR’s run something into the ground then dump it list.
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8 hours ago, papagolfjuliet said:
Re: an earlier post the NYMR has now puy the New Bridge steam craen up for sale. That should keep certain people in the manner to which they are accustomed for a while longer. Page 10 here.
"Buyer to remove from railway" of course means "You may not keep that thing on my train set."
What is the background; is it just the NYMR needs the money it will raise or is it a basket case job? Do they have decent non-steam cranes as alternatives for lifting in the civils yard where cranes are useful, arguably essential? Seems yet another potentially useful asset just ignored by the NYMR.
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3 hours ago, caradoc said:
Nonsense, the local buses on which I travel do not, never have had and probably never will have seatbelts.
Trains do not have, and do not require to have, seatbelts, because the frequency of incidents in which they would be of benefit is extremely small, whereas the cost would be extremely high, and therefore unjustifiable.
Possibly the few that double up as school transport. My memory is that school buses need to have them fitted but I could be wrong.
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12 hours ago, lmsforever said:
When you think how many years we used these coaches day in day out and thought nothing of it but now people have become so sheltered and basically ueselless they cant think for themselves and have allowed people who should know better. It seems as though the organisations who carry out these witch hunts are representing groups who are totally not in the real world and are constantly looking to make trouble for anyone .Surely people are able to be safe and be responsible but we are living in real nanny state .
I think there are two factors here:
1) if it is a daily risk in widespread use you know about it/how to avoid it. Still catches a few but …
2) same risk problem, but rarely experienced by most people nowadays as life has moved on, will catch a higher % of those exposed to it.
Some risk assessments may invoke over zealous responses (the one’s the press love to mock) but in general the vast majority of Health & Safety reactions do improve safety and work place environments. CDL has grown on me and I have changed my attitude to it, same with window hanging now so much of the network, including heritage lines, is festooned with things like trailing brambles etc. Even back in the day if I was standing at an open drop light my hands would be on the frame part of the coach not the door. My own risk assessment similar to ORR’s = doors are dodgy, ameliorate the risk.
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Summer weather must be getting closer, the first outdoor modelling session of the year done. I have a feeling it is psychological as when I worked on the full size railway (about 12 years volunteering on the NYMR) it was most often outdoors. Two tasks completed.
One a sprat and winkle measuring jig based on the one @mullie showed on his thread. Link here as per my post of 4 Oct 2022. That added to my programming track. First step use some hardboard strips to make a flat platform at rail height level then two bits of 6mm ply, the top one incorporating the 20deg slot.
The second adding what I intend to be a small loading platform/buffer stop. Ideally it needs a fixing screw adding once the glue has fully set. A bit of sanding, shaping and adding paint and scenic coverings still needed.
The project keeps getting sidetracked but it isn’t dead.
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2 hours ago, St Enodoc said:
When I was involved with a model railway club on the South Coast, we reckoned that cloudy, cool and damp was "good exhibition weather". If it was too wet, the families wouldn't go out at all.
From doing shows and events, not just model railway related, for three or four decades fully concur. A nice sunny day and people make their leisure trips to an outdoor attraction; a dull and damp one they still come out but do an indoor attraction; if it is scything down or blowing a hoolie they stay at home.
I have done several events over the years where if I hadn’t been “on the team”, and therefore committed to being there, I wouldn’t have gone myself.
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2 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:
When I did the York MRS regularly over the whole weekend (as a trader's assistant) it seemed that the attendance by families was largely weather driven. Nice weather, go to the seaside or around York. During poor/wet weather then there were more families at the show. Our trade stand was on the 2nd mezzanine facing the stairs and we were often asked "where are the loos/lifts/restaurant" by families who were unfamiliar with the facility and presumably not regular visitors. Despite discussing putting up a notice stating "This is not the exhibition information desk", we never got around to it.
We have added improved signage and still get asked!
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14 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:
I agree with you Tony, but I do know of one group/society where the demonstrators can be so engaged in model making that it deters anyone from interrupting their activity. I even saw a post where one of their demonstrators said they were looking forward to manning the stand at a particular show as they hoped to build a particular loco kit over the weekend.
For demonstrators, Society representatives, layout owners/operators and traders there is a careful balance to be struck between being welcoming /helpful or off putting/disinterested. The former can put people off (as well as attracting those who want to tell you their modelling life story), as much as the latter.
Fully concur.
When I do my watercolouring weathering demo I have a stock of completed projects on show. On the Saturday morning I have a set of wagons primed only and also some unprimed ready to do. I can then show how easy adding the over layer is and/or depending on what they have asked prime one. That can dry to join the stock later and I can then move on in best Blue Peter fashion to do the one I primed earlier for phase two. If necessary at a two day show prime a few more late on Saturday to dry off overnight ready for Sunday. I am demonstrating the technique, which is what I am there for, so that the person asking the questions might then go home and have a go themselves. I am not there to do up a string of wagons or whatever for my own layout. Any I do finish in the quiet hour towards the end of the day are a bonus.
I think I am there to show people how it can be done and if they want a go let them, rather like a teacher in a school class, I am not there to be head down and actively doing it with no interaction, with no explanation of the whys and wherefores We have all seen examples of the head down working on the project demonstrators - they are not actually showing anybody anything to learn from as they do not provide context or guidance to those wanting to pick up the knowledge.
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12 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said:
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The former can put people off (as well as attracting those who want to tell you their modelling life story), as much as the latter.
Many also always seem to have a grandfather who drove or fired (the) Flying Scotsman. They never seem to know whether that was the locomotive or the train. I suspect also even where it is true (the locomotive) it was something like 50 yards up the shed road to say they've done it or some other move around the shed as a just passed out fireman or similar.
At the risk of thread drift. I worked on the clerical side in the Police Garage 55 years ago straight out of college as my first job, I did once drive a police car a short distance up the car park to move it as it was in the way - I can legitimately say I drove a police car at work, but a big difference between that small yard shunt and being a traffic cop.
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20 minutes ago, nightstar.train said:
Is it this one?
Yes that’s the one.
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19 hours ago, Matt37268 said:
If you’ve ever read ‘Railway Adventure’ you’ll find how Mr Rolt makes a comment on about how much a 2 or 3 minute delay in somewhere like Manchester or Birmingham could have a knock on delay at Twywn when trying to arrange a connection with the Talylln.
More recently the same points been made regarding the NYMR with their services to Whitby, if something cocks up there apparently the ripples can be felt back as far as Leeds and Manchester.There is an excellent BR era film on YouTube about accumulating delays. Sadly I can’t remember the name so can’t post a YT link.
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On 09/04/2024 at 15:55, jonhall said:
Frankly that isn't a display , and in *my* opinion should be missed out entirely. If its not worth doing properly, don't bother at all, I certainly don't want to pay to see it!
Whilst I totally take your point about individual societies controlling what they put on show, I think the show organisers are acting as 'curators', they should be assessing what is in their show, and making choices about the societies that they invite, and perhaps a bit of competition for the space available might improve whats shown?
Jon
I’ve pondered replying for sometime. The area we had for the SLS was unsuitable for a crewed stand but ideal for a static stand, think roadside advertising hoarding for an equivalent. The stand that was usually there was merely relocated slightly (the leaflets drop spot). By taking it we didn’t displace any actively crewed stand of whatever type and gave the show some income. Due to lack of volunteers to crew an active stand an advertising slot was all that was possible. Not ideal for us either but you can only have a Society stand with a crew if they are available.
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Photo's Of East Yorkshire Railways
in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)
Posted · Edited by john new
As a former NELPG member & volunteer from about 4 decades back now when I lived in the York area I vaguely remember 62005 had (has) a steam generator for fixed lights. They are there but clearly not lit in the photo but I have no idea if these days the lighting generator (Stone?) is operative or not. It has two train category lamps up plus the obligatory new style one.