Ian Fisher

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/british-railways-first-generation-dmus.htm Is a good read and contains various formations over the years and when set numbers and in what form began to appear. I have had the book since publication and had forgot it contained formations as a chapter.

Hi Nigel, Being an LM man, I knew AN, LO, CH, NH and KD with my eyes closed, I could only ever recall seeing 117's and 119's with RG! Was Southall a location before Reading?

As you say the Western used a letter to indicate its shed B Bristol C Cardiff L Reading - ( I think some units based from old oak OO also used an L prefix?) P Plymouth Followed by a three digit number usually displayed on the cab front below the drivers window. Other regions or sheds developed unit numbers but more often displayed them inside, the later adopting WR practice T Tyseley, I think the LM had a more fluid way of assembling their units I cant recall when the Scr started using set numbers, I think I recall seeing 107 xxx etc used. It was late on that first gen dmu all gained "tops" numbers 101 6xx 117 xxx etc again under the drivers window. If you csn post your pic here there will be loads of us that will identify the unit in question!

Platform five number books were one of the first to publish set numbers. With the Western being first to be published mainstream. Only a very few gained a tops based class number and these were once the majority of first gen dmu's had gone.

313, 314, 507 and northern 508 have always been three cars. Liveries over the years for the T' Northrern BR Blue grey, GG PTE, Crimson Cream, Scotrail Saltaire, Merseyrail reggie, Merseyrail silver,

Units! 175 fairly wide area of operations, North west, Wales. 323 bit of variety in colour two main areas of operation. Really suprised no one of the big boys have ever had a go at PEP family, 313, 314, 315, 507, 508. I know it would need a number of sides, there being many subtle differences in window arrangement and roof detail but the overall shape and look remain constant. Loads of liveries a long life with years still left in service wide sphere of localised operation.

An apology from myself on behalf of Royal Mail. Yesterday in the wind and rain I went to the post office in our grown up village, got soaked and posted a number of items . And erm well this morning I had to do a double take....delivered early doors.. Was erm this package..... Will have another go later, I did post it honest, oh and the addresses are not obliterated on the actual parcel...hmmmmmm Not franked, I thought it clear that the original postage had been scrubbed out enough.

I have had a few packs of 5 thou Evergreen over the years. The packaging in front of me clearly says sheet styrene, the same one Colin will be in receipt of in a day or so RM willing. I think the crispness is more to its desnsity as a plastic, and how much pressure you think you need to cut a material of similar thickness, giving the impression to me at least of being hard to cut.

Thanks for the link Mick, I did wonder when the views went up! £85 for one coach comparative to a RTR from one of the big boys is a higher cost, but as Mick says £85 for a complete kit built RTR model isn't that higher price. As good as Britannia Pacific model is it is never going to sell in their thousands. 999606 in all its incarnations it is a niche model. Economy of scale has to be considered in projects like this. Without our support to developers like BP we wouldnt get models like 606, to rely on the big boys to produce everything we want would in my opinion see the hobby stagnate. It would also reduce the fun we get from glueing, cutting etc. The models are available as kits, I wanted to personalise my version of 606 but even with a few added bits and bobs, add in the cost of wheels, paint, transfers and sundries oh and the time to build the model £85 for a model finnished to a good standard doesn't sound too bad a price!

Not far from us, just down the A38. I have driven around a had a look at what is left around the site and wondered its full extent and purpose. As for curves and small wheelbased locos in EM I would say go for it. Crown Street and Regent Road both have in places almost set track curves and they always perform well. Goodluck with the project.

Satisfying....now get to that darkened room. I bet you are happy tonight.

Definitely were not A one...even if they were.

60010 heading towards Burton-Upon-Trent past Stenson Bubble today at 17:25 on Kingsbury tanks?

Nice to see someone else making things out of them. I have loads of spare sides if you get stuck with any element of your side conversion Looking good.

Sadly it doesnt look like lion has been reissued by ABS, I have recently had their catalogue and it aint in it

Darkened room time! Those sides look almost too good to progress with nasty glue and shaping and such like. In a day or two Colin the aches will subside and I am sure you will be left with a pressing desire to knock out a few more units worth. Great work.

Hi Sean, I have found latex can create peelable moulds for cuboid shapes. A useful mould can be built up after a few dips. Bath sealant as you say can be used also best for flat objects as it lacks firmness, the main draw back is it takes an age to go off fully. With RTV silicone there are so many choices, maybe too many on first inspection, but the hig advantage is a mould can be created that supports itself, but with a much improved time cure time allowing the creation of a useable mould qiicker

Hi Sean, Have a look here:- http://www.tiranti.co.uk/edgeimpactshop/search.php?Keyword=pot One of the most comprehensive casting supply people maybe not the cheapest but definitely a good reference.

http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BE_STIFF_TOUR_78_Kensington_Olympia.jpg http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brexhibitiontrain/h144a9f56 Mr Bartlett of this parish would confirm its origins also! He also has other useful images of other stock. I would defo think they are of LMS origin. It looks like there was a mark one FK part of the train.

Those carriages other than the mark one pullman look more like an LMS profile to me.

I have heard that too, isnt the grill sourced or supposed to have come from BQ? Easier to access them extrenally and pop a grill on it than a patch...lump hammer enginering at its best!

I'd give DC Kits or Realtrack, thats DC Kits or Realtrack ×in best reeves and mortimer type lingo× Give the manfucaturer and retailer the full whack!

Hi Colin, The compressor and framework build sequence is brilliant. I hope it didn't cause too long a lie down in that darkened room! Ian

The late Chris Matthewman...his trackwork really hit the spot

If you have a read through the social and political history of the APT-P Litchurch Lane were actually behind in producing the trailers, it was a prototype test train fleet, the vehicles when I went to Derby and Crewe works open days from 1978 they were in my memory allways very well kept up and very much in use. Think your memories are more based on miss information and prejudice than actual fact.