RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted February 27, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2010 I've been contemplating a purchase of the Railfreight Grey 26 for sometime, largely for nostalgic reasons, I'm not sure if my memory is playing tricks with me? -did any have red running the whole way along the solebar - some pictures I have seen have red as far as the cab doors- ie from the bufferbeam to the cab door- but did any carry this red stripe the full length of loco. - I dont think any got the proper 'redstripe' livery as per class 31/37/47 etc which included a red bodyside stripe, yet I'm still sure I recall some having a red stripe on the underframe. I've just been looking through this lot - and still not drawn any conclusions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi Russ If my memory serves me correctly I seem to remember 26010 was the first 26 to receive railfreight red stripe livery in August 1985. I photographed it at Haymarket Depot open day in 1985 when it was fresh out of the works. This was the first 26 in Railfreight grey livery and I'm sure it had a red solebar the whole length of the loco. I will try and scan my slides and post them on the site later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted February 27, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi Russ If my memory serves me correctly I seem to remember 26010 was the first 26 to receive railfreight red stripe livery in August 1985. I photographed it at Haymarket Depot open day in 1985 when it was fresh out of the works. This was the first 26 in Railfreight grey livery and I'm sure it had a red solebar the whole length of the loco. I will try and scan my slides and post them on the site later. Thanks - the Flickr site I was looking at was dated 1989 which would have allowed them to get 'cacked up' a pic of an ex-works condition loco would be great! as it is I'm sure Heljan have got it at least part wrong- though not bad enough to get worked up over- will just get the paint cans out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince minto Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi russ do these help 26002 heaton 25-6-87 26005 thornton jnc 3-12-88 26025 eastfield 2-11-91 26038 polmadie 5-1-91 26040 motherwell 3-9-89 all these carry the red stripe all the way along the solebar, but some are dirtier than others vince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edin_bry2x Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi Russ all of the 26s that were painted into Railfreight Grey received a red solebar but as Vince's pics show they did get grubby quickly. Cheers Bry PS Vince those pics are fantastic, dont suppose you have anymore shots of 26005, i dont remember it having those numbers on the nose end, did it carry them at both ends??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 - I dont think any got the proper 'redstripe' livery as per class 31/37/47 etc which included a red bodyside stripe, ... Small mercies, eh To me, RSR worked best on those locos where the design naturally accomodated it (like 20s), and not where it was artificially blathered up the side... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 As promised I have uploaded these four images which illustrate my previous answer. Hope they are helpfull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Nice to see you are scaning stuff with proper numbers on now BrushVeteran Now where's that blue TOPs stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted February 27, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2010 Excellent thanks for the pics folks- so I havent gone senile..yet! - the grubby pics will be useful for weathering however! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince minto Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi bry the numbers on the nose end were my mate's numbers.stuck them on because number was at the wrong end!!! so they were on about 5 minute's. vince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edin_bry2x Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi bry the numbers on the nose end were my mate's numbers.stuck them on because number was at the wrong end!!! so they were on about 5 minute's. vince nice one Vince, glad i checked before i got some transfers out cheers for the other pics bry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg06003 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Another view of 26 010 at the 1985 Haymarket Open Day And 26 041 at Perth - it looks like it actually got to use the ploughs! They didn't stay like this long! Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Minor thread diversion politely requested. I notice that 26001/5 have the later style secondary suspension, coil rather than leaf sprung. When were the 26/0s modded, and were they all done? I was under the mistaken belief that they were leaf sprung up to 5319 (in old money). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Minor thread diversion politely requested. I notice that 26001/5 have the later style secondary suspension, coil rather than leaf sprung. When were the 26/0s modded, and were they all done? I was under the mistaken belief that they were leaf sprung up to 5319 (in old money). I always understood it had happened during refurbishment in the mid-80s Chard, along with the other minor alterations in similar vein such as substitution of sliding cab lights instead of drops on 'ex-English' 26s and 27s. I've never troubled to specifically check it out against photos, and thus I wouldnt like to say whether it happened on all refurbed 26/0s - it might have depended on the availability of fully coil-sprung bogies from withdrawn locos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 To the best of my (admittedly limited!) knowledge, bogie swaps occurred randomly during overhauls so a few later 26s ended up with the transverse leaf sprung bogies and some, but not all, early ones gained the coil sprung versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 As already indicated it seems to have been pretty arbitary - D5310 in preservation (recently moved from Bo'ness to Llangollen) has the earlier type. Â (Along with a number of other changes to "backdate" the appearance to match the livery.) Â Presumably, if the later ones were "better" there might have been a more concentrated standardisation policy, but that's just a thought. See: http://26010.fotopic.net/ for some ideas of the restoration work undertaken. And here at new home: http://llangollendieselgroup.org.uk/page/category/loco-fleet/26010/ Cheers, 26power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTTLEY Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 I always understood it had happened during refurbishment in the mid-80s Chard, along with the other minor alterations in similar vein such as substitution of sliding cab lights instead of drops on 'ex-English' 26s and 27s. I've never troubled to specifically check it out against photos, and thus I wouldnt like to say whether it happened on all refurbed 26/0s - it might have depended on the availability of fully coil-sprung bogies from withdrawn locos Definately 26010 & 26014 ended their working lives with leaf-springs. I have shots of 26012 & 26013 taken in 1982, both still with leaf-springs - I believe they were withdrawn soon after this, so doubt whether they had coil-springs fitted. I have shots of all the others (with the exception 26009, 26016 & 26017 that were withdrawn in 1976-1977 with leafs), with coils including 26020 which also went in 1977. Of the later batch, 26021 is the only one I can confirm that saw service fitted with leaf-springs. I have a photo of 26045 fitted with them, but the loco was withdrawn, so they may only have been second-hand; its own bogies being donated to a 26/0. The long-and-short of it, is that 26009, 010, 012, 013 014, 016 and 017 didn't get the coil-springs................ HTH, Ron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 One thing to be wary of is did the 26/0 get a complete bogie swap or just the coil /leaf spring swap. The 26/1 at the Gloucester & Warwick has 26/0 bogie frames with coil springs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethevans1986 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 If anybody wants or needs close up shots of 26010 in Llangollen, please feel free to PM me. GE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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