RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 The ideal dome would seem to be somewhere between the two? GER Soc pictures. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Regularity said: “Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than “politics.” They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Resisters.” - Naomi Shulman Throw in a few people who will inform on their neighbours - Covid-snitching, where there is at least the justification of protecting society against transgressors, is going to be an easy way to breed that habit - and you have the final ingredient of your functioning police state. Just over the border from me in Yorkshire lies a village that includes people community-spirited enough to get a first responder sacked for an alleged lockdown breach and who kept a list of everyone who failed to participate in the Thursday evening NHS clapping. Makes you proud doesn't it? Moving onto to a lighter note, I once caused visible and audible consternation in the aisles of the unforgivably named 'Toys R Us' (now mercifully no more) in Peterb*gger by observing that Lego City was an oppressive police state. If you looked at the number of sets including police figures, vehicles, buildings etc in proportion to all other human activities, people, vehicles etc depicted in that range, it became clear that this was the most shockingly over-policed community on the planet! 6 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Lego City was an oppressive police state. If you looked at the number of sets including police figures, vehicles, buildings etc in proportion to all other human activities, people, vehicles etc depicted in that range, it became clear that this was the most shockingly over-policed community on the planet! But it had a superbly-equipped fire department. 3 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: The ideal dome would seem to be somewhere between the two? GER Soc pictures. Probably. Whether it's practical to attempt to remove it, I don't know. All in all, this kit or scratch-build (as it was described) is cruder and less detailed than the Hornby, but, as I hope is captured by the pictures, just has much more character and appeal. To my eyes the Hornby model (which has its errors and the horrible join to the lower boiler, that suggests to me that it really won't look good in blue!) lacks soul in comparison. Still, I'm funny that way about old things. EDIT: This picture is of another loco in the same lot (order K15) of 1884. It shows the dome nicely, and it does make Hornby's dome look a little too slim, IMHO. Note also the large cab-cut out and low termination of tender handrail to match, non-fluted rods, lack of wheel balance weights and the D shaped tender frame cut outs. Edited October 8, 2020 by Edwardian 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I need to obtain the following:- - Face masks bearing the legend - 'My ancestors were immigrants' - An elaborate broach in the form of a spider (and possibly also for other insects.) However, I am also awaiting delivery of an Isinglass drawing for an engine I have often longed to make. (Which is suitably pre-grouping in origin) How far should we enjoy our amusements and distractions, and when will the time come when we should take to the streets? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, drmditch said: I need to obtain the following:- - Face masks bearing the legend - 'My ancestors were immigrants' I'm looking for the ones that say "all our ancestors were immigrants". Which reminds me that the ads during the early rounds of Roland Garros included with excessive frequency the one for "Viking River Cruises" which conjours up in my mind not quite the sedate trip down the Rhine or or Danube they had in mind, for all that their vessels are, technically, longboats. I looked in vain for the small print "rape and pillage not included". 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, drmditch said: ... when will the time come when we should take to the streets? I'll see you there! (mind you, perhaps it is possible to be a little too liberated!) Just now, Compound2632 said: Which reminds me that the ads during the early rounds of Roland Garros included with excessive frequency the one for "Viking River Cruises" which conjours up in my mind not quite the sedate trip down the Rhine or or Danube they had in mind, for all that their vessels are, technically, longboats. I looked in vain for the small print "rape and pillage not included". 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Edwardian said: Just over the border from me in Yorkshire lies a village that includes people community-spirited enough to get a first responder sacked for an alleged lockdown breach and who kept a list of everyone who failed to participate in the Thursday evening NHS clapping. Makes you proud doesn't it? Aye, it does lad. As far as I know, I am not in anyway descended from people from Yorkshire, who are apparently genetically distinct from everyone else on these islands. Which is only possible through in-breeding, so I don't know why they wanted to crow about it. Sorry Norfolk, but despite the jokes, you are in a much lower league... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Edwardian said: I'll see you there! (mind you, perhaps it is possible to be a little too liberated!) What a bonkers picture! A gal without a top, and a bloke without his trousers... Very French.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Sans-culotte literally and figuratively, I guess. (No idea what the French is for sans brassiere. Maybe its sans brassiere. Although, thinking about it, which I probably shouldn't, had brassieres been invented by then, or was it still the era of those pre-corset-corset-things that women wore in C17th?) Edited October 8, 2020 by Nearholmer 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: I post some pictures of it with the Hornby J15, so the detail differences between early and late conditions can be seen easily. The thing that thumped me immediately was the difference in splasher size, those two shouldn't be seen out together. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Buhar said: The thing that thumped me immediately was the difference in splasher size, those two shouldn't be seen out together. True. Why do RTR 0-6-0s always have over-scale splashers? I understand that 00 flanges are over-scale, increasing the diameter of the wheels, but the narrow gauge means that those flanges are inside the true line of the frames and hence behind the splashers, so clearance really shouldn't be an issue? Edited October 8, 2020 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2020 Simple solution anyway, make the wheels to scale diameter over the flanges. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, Hroth said: A gal without a top, and a bloke without his trousers... Very French.... That's because they are revolting peasants! Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: That's because they are revolting peasants! Revolution in France has always been an urban, middle-class activity, often student-led. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Regularity said: Aye, it does lad. As far as I know, I am not in anyway descended from people from Yorkshire, who are apparently genetically distinct from everyone else on these islands. Which is only possible through in-breeding, so I don't know why they wanted to crow about it. Sorry Norfolk, but despite the jokes, you are in a much lower league... Well, I'm 50% Yorkshire by blood, but I know what you mean. Up here you realise that there is The North, essentially equating to the ancient kingdom of Northumbria, and then there's Yorkshire and that the two are really rather different. Edited October 8, 2020 by Edwardian spelling! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Revolution in France has always been an urban, middle-class activity, often student-led. Given they're the French middle classes, possibly also urbane. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Up here you realise that there is The North, essentially equating to the ancient kingdom of Northumbria, and then there's Yorkshire and that the two are really rather different. Speaking as someone who did his higher education in red rose country, I think that’s fine distinction... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I looked in vain for the small print "rape and pillage not included". Not worth bothering then. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I find it intriguing why warrior women of old seem happy to go to war half naked! Brian. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted October 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, brianusa said: I find it intriguing why warrior women of old seem happy to go to war half naked! Brian. Because it is easier to smite the blokes when their attention is elsewhere of course! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Buhar said: The thing that thumped me immediately was the difference in splasher size, those two shouldn't be seen out together. Alan Are you talking about the topless sheila waving the flag? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Nearholmer said: Sans-culotte literally and figuratively, I guess. (No idea what the French is for sans brassiere. Maybe its sans brassiere. Although, thinking about it, which I probably shouldn't, had brassieres been invented by then, or was it still the era of those pre-corset-corset-things that women wore in C17th?) Perhaps she's indicating that the pubs are open for business again? As for the bloke, I suppose he's a fairly broad metaphor for the Government being caught unawares..... 11 hours ago, Nearholmer said: or was it still the era of those pre-corset-corset-things that women wore in C17th? The upper-class/fashionable tended to have a flat board thingy that squashed eveything into place under a lace-up bodicey thingy. The rest just tended to flop about under whatever they were wearing. 9 hours ago, brianusa said: I find it intriguing why warrior women of old seem happy to go to war half naked! Brian. Because it took too long for an armourer to beat out a breastplate for them. So many fittings, y'know.... OR Painters just like painting them like that! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 There is a good line in one of the Ben Aaronovitch books: 'Woman so busy inspiring her followers that she doesn't have time to pull her dress up.' (or words to that effect.) (Can recommend the 'Rivers of London' series. Good light relief, although have not abandoned the 5th century - see above.) 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, drmditch said: Can recommend the 'Rivers of London' series. Good light relief, although have not abandoned the 5th century - see above.) Some good railway connections there, where the various bits of the ‘underground’ cross them. My favourite is at Sloane Square, where the river crosses the station in an aqueduct that looks like a footbridge. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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