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I've had one phone number for the last 25 years and it's on the internet and other easily accessible places. I've never had an issue with anyone using it for nefarious purposes and think there is too much paranoia about subjects such as this.

 

1 hour ago, rockershovel said:

Morgan Sindall aren’t, AFAIK, members of this forum, and haven’t consented to anything

 

They don't need to consent. By placing the information in an area which can be viewed by the general public external to the site they have placed the information in the public domain. If they don't want people to know this information, they should have been more careful about where they placed these boards.

1 hour ago, rockershovel said:

I feel the forum procedures dictate that pictures of that sort, should not appear. 

 Report the post, if there is an issue for Warners they will act.

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2 hours ago, rockershovel said:

 

Quite apart from anything else, I feel the forum procedures dictate that pictures of that sort, should not appear. 

 

 

I've tried looking at the forum rules and, apart from copyright on photos, I cannot find anything to cover this. However there are 50 pages of, generally, rubbish in that area and just one pinned post which, as mentioned, covers pictures.

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The phone number shown is surely a work-provided device, not the person's own mobile, however I agree that it would be better if the number, and photo and name of the person, were not on public view; Should anyone be concerned about the work there are other means of reporting it.

 

Putting such phone numbers in the public domain can have unintended consequences; Many will have seen the plates on railway bridges giving a number to phone 'the Railway Authority' if the bridge is struck, this rings an Emergency line in the appropriate Network Rail Control and will always be answered immediately, if need be at the expense of other calls and work; One evening, on that line, I had a number of calls from people on a car treasure hunt ! 

 

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5 hours ago, rockershovel said:

 

It’s not even that difficult.

 

That board is clearly a temporary board, including information such as Task Briefings which are not published externally. Boards like that appear at various locations on that site, or any other site, as required by the relevant SSOW (Safe System Of Work). The contacts are internal site contacts defined under that SSOW and related documents. 

 

It isn’t a board showing public contact numbers, which are a different matter. 

 

Morgan Sindall aren’t, AFAIK, members of this forum, and haven’t consented to anything. Those phone numbers are probably their phones, provided to members of site staff for their duties (most sites do this as a matter of course, partly so that when staff leave or are redeployed, the number stays “in post” and ringing the number puts you through to whoever is still doing the job, or it takes you to that individual. It also means that the employer isn’t breaching confidentiality by posting personal phone numbers).

 

Quite apart from anything else, I feel the forum procedures dictate that pictures of that sort, should not appear. 

 

 

Does it say 'Private and Confidential ' on that board because if it doesn't then it isn't.   Everybody nowadays knows there are cameras and even 'phones capable of taking quite detailed photos of objects a long distance away.  If those responsible for such things have no wish for them to be seen by the public than it is part of their responsibility to ensure that such things can't be seen.   Somehow I suspect that they would at least be happy that the wider world with an understanding of such things does at least know they are doing the job properly because nowadays we see an awful lot of things going on around us where that is quite often not the case.   

 

And this site is not alone in having such information in a place where it can be seen from beyond the site fence (and there's a site near us where I would love to see it in the hope that it might actually exist because some of their methods are in my view not the best in the world or indeed up to contemporary practice when working adjacent to a public highway.

 

It is  really no more than very basic plain common or garden common sense, so maybe time to put the storm back in the teacup?

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4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Does it say 'Private and Confidential ' on that board because if it doesn't then it isn't.

Ah that old chestnut, whatever happened to common courtesy?

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4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

 It is  really no more than very basic plain common or garden common sense, so maybe time to put the storm back in the teacup?

I for one would hate to lose these fascinating pictures of a major engineering project which are much appreciated. So can we all move on please.

 

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18 hours ago, royaloak said:

Ah that old chestnut, whatever happened to common courtesy?

No - the railway was for ever (it seemed) very good at signing things as 'private' and heading things like Instructions etc as 'Private and Not for Publication' and so on.  So common sense, a natural partner perhaps to 'common courtesy', would be good watchwords in my view.  I'm returning to my teacup - fortunately the real storm is outside both it and the house.

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Had a look today.

 

I started at Cock Lane bridge where the pumps are handling much more water again. Lots of used track panels in the background.

 

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Then across to look at the alignment of the dive under approach from the south. Very little difference here to the photos last week from Donington Road except that the old track panels are slowly being moved.

 

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Looking south it seems that they are putting up a quite substantial fence on the western side of the approach. The fence that was alongside the worksite to the west of the new alignment has also been removed.

 

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Moving on to Hurn Road footbridge and there is quite a good view of the piling rig and an associated crane. There appears to be a walkway or vehicle access across the new alignment visible as well so the access underpass is not, presumably, completed as yet. In any case it will feed in at depth so it isn't usable at present even if completed.

 

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And finally across to Lincoln Road on the joint line. Here we can see that the stop valves on the northern side of the lines are now buried in concrete. The RAMS board is still in full view and there is a second just under the A15 bridge that can be seen from a public path.

 

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And it is quite clear now where the junction on the joint for the dive under will be. If you look carefully at the fencing alongside the existing line it changes in form just to the right of the centre of the picture and that higher fence line is maintained right up to the end of the taper where the haul road meets the fence. Nearer to Lincoln Road the fence has been removed altogether.

 

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Where the new Hurn Road comes in and is crossed by the haul road they are increasing the width of the access into the eastern compound. And whilst I was there I overheard a conversation where there was some concern that an expected concrete delivery was overdue.

 

I've taken to parking in Werrington and walking across to Hurn Road footbridge as it helps towards my getting some sorely needed exercise.

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4 hours ago, Richard E said:

Had a look today.

 

You did well to get some decent photos before the weather turned this afternoon.

Nice to see a photo of the large piling rig in action, it's usually got its back to me whenever I go.

The underpass is being used for pumping concrete to the piling in the wide-way from west of the Stamford lines.

 

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For those who might be interested there is an article on the Werrington Upgrade in the latest edition of Rail Engineer.

It can be viewed and/or downloaded here:

https://www.railengineer.co.uk/2020/02/08/rail-engineer-january-february-2020-christmas-works-roundup-stations-focus-azumas-highest-challenge-and-engineers-shining-at-the-railstaff-awards/

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2 hours ago, Donington Road said:

For those who might be interested there is an article on the Werrington Upgrade in the latest edition of Rail Engineer.

It can be viewed and/or downloaded here:

https://www.railengineer.co.uk/2020/02/08/rail-engineer-january-february-2020-christmas-works-roundup-stations-focus-azumas-highest-challenge-and-engineers-shining-at-the-railstaff-awards/

 

Very detailed technical article. Some of it over my head. Must have another read later on this week.

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13 hours ago, Donington Road said:

For those who might be interested there is an article on the Werrington Upgrade in the latest edition of Rail Engineer.

It can be viewed and/or downloaded here:

https://www.railengineer.co.uk/2020/02/08/rail-engineer-january-february-2020-christmas-works-roundup-stations-focus-azumas-highest-challenge-and-engineers-shining-at-the-railstaff-awards/

 

I see a picture that you might be familiar with as the header.

 

And a familiar photograph on page 33 published with permission ...

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4 hours ago, Richard E said:

 

I see a picture that you might be familiar with as the header.

 

And a familiar photograph on page 33 published with permission ...

 

I hadn't noticed.....  :secret: :toclue:

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A quick look today.

 

From Hurn Road footbridge it is possible to see the stacks of rebar (centre of picture). The piling rig has also moved.

 

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And over on Lincoln Road the road surface has disappeared. They appear to be digging down to remove the water main that was capped earlier.

 

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Whilst at Cock Lane bridge they've temporarily diverted the footpath as they are installing some pipes.

 

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The area dug out earlier in the wideway is where the Up Stamford will eventually go, they've started with putting in the gravel sub-base it seems.

 

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21 minutes ago, Richard E said:

A quick look today.

 

Whilst at Cock Lane bridge they've temporarily diverted the footpath as they are installing some pipes.

 

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I think that pipework is the overflow from the Werrington Brook/Marholm Brook siphon back to the new drain.

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