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I think you could justify including the Mexican Bean in the consist of trains on other parts of your system. On the class 104 section of railcar.co.uk is stated "About once a week the set would be attached to the rear of a loco-hauled service to Glasgow for fuelling and servicing." Sounds like an interesting train.

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David

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22 hours ago, David Bell said:

I think you could justify including the Mexican Bean in the consist of trains on other parts of your system. On the class 104 section of railcar.co.uk is stated "About once a week the set would be attached to the rear of a loco-hauled service to Glasgow for fuelling and servicing." Sounds like an interesting train.

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David

 

There is a clip of the Bean attached to the rear of an Oban to Glasgow train in Ultimate Scenic Route, The WHL by the Friends of the WHL. It's a rather aincient video made in the mid 1980's which could do with a digital upgrade, nevertheless the material is well worth a watch. 

 

Progress yesterday was less than I had hoped largely due to the amount of gluing I deemed necessary to secure the Mallaig platform. Allowing this to dry meant I had time on my hands which I put to use in casting my first Woodland Scenics rock. My mix of the first batch of WS hydrocal must have been poor because the castings were crumbly and badly formed. Subsequent castings worked well giving me a number of rocks to use as low relief along the backscene to the rear of Mallaig. I intend casting further rock using casting plaster which is considerably cheaper than the WS hydrocal. Any surplus casts will be used on the other scenic areas that I have yet to construct so I have lots of opportunity to fine tune my casting skills. 

 

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On 17/11/2020 at 08:19, young37215 said:

I created 4 storage tanks from pipe off cuts, 2 vertical at 120 x 68mm and 2 horizontal at 100 x 40. Placed in situ to get a feel, they look somewhere close to the reality. I will add plasticard to create the top and spray them light grey. With some pipework and ladders they should do the job.

 

I intend adding 1 further tank in the gap, this was slightly smaller requiring something in the region of 80 x 30. Still searching for a solution on this.

 

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Rob,

Just browsing this thread again and thought I'd make a suggestion. Why not use a ratio tank to fill the gap. I've used one on my version on extended pillars. If you're modelling 3 of the 4 tanks this might add some variety to the similar sized horizontal tanks. I think that you are more likely to notice that the smaller tank is missing than you would one of the larger ones. This is of course just my personal view having chewed the cud on this subject for many weeks.

Your progress and results are very impressive.

 

Andy

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4 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said:

Rob,

Just browsing this thread again and thought I'd make a suggestion. Why not use a ratio tank to fill the gap. I've used one on my version on extended pillars. If you're modelling 3 of the 4 tanks this might add some variety to the similar sized horizontal tanks. I think that you are more likely to notice that the smaller tank is missing than you would one of the larger ones. This is of course just my personal view having chewed the cud on this subject for many weeks.

Your progress and results are very impressive.

 

Andy

My version. Photo added so you can chew the suggestion over. 

Andy.

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11 hours ago, mallaig1983 said:

Rob,

Just browsing this thread again and thought I'd make a suggestion. Why not use a ratio tank to fill the gap. I've used one on my version on extended pillars. If you're modelling 3 of the 4 tanks this might add some variety to the similar sized horizontal tanks. I think that you are more likely to notice that the smaller tank is missing than you would one of the larger ones. This is of course just my personal view having chewed the cud on this subject for many weeks.

Your progress and results are very impressive.

 

Andy

 

Thanks Andy, the Ratio tank is a potential solution. As you say, I need to have 1 smaller tank, what I don’t know is the dimensions of it. Please can you measure yours and advise the length and diameter? 

 

Yesterday was a low key affair, a little bit of guaging and more rock casting. The casting plaster is 50 % heavier but only costs 20 % of the hydrocal. The plaster sets much quicker and at such a price differential, I will use this in future. 

 

Not quite watching paint dry but similar, freshly poured Hydrocal in moulds and my growing stock of finished moulds which should be ok to paint later today. 

 

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I spent more time modelling yesterday than I have for some time but have little tangible to show for it. I watched several of the Woodland Scenics Videos on YouTube in an effort to learn how to colour my expanding collection of rock moulds and then attempted to put this into practice. I also added 100mm to the fuel platform which will allow an extra tank. 

 

By the end of the day I had coloured most of the rock moulds. On checking this morning they have all dried and appear fine. Some may require further darkening but most seem ready for use. 

 

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16 hours ago, BoD said:

They look very effective.

Did you use the woodland scenic paints or mix your own?

 

I have been using a WS Earth Colour kit which contains 8 different WS colours. Having got a better feel for what colouring the rocks entails, I will buy additional supplies of cheaper acyrlics for the high use, darker colours like the black and grey to see how these work. That said, the level of paint dilution is such that I anticipate the 1 fl oz pots from the kit to last for some time even on my sizeable rock collection.

 

My holy grail for the last few days has been the Youtube video below which does a great job of showing how to colour rock. I have copied the techniques which are really straightforward and am slowly getting comfortable with producing the dark coloured rock that is seen in the western highlands. The best thing about the WS technique is that if I dont like the colour of a rock once the paint dries, it is very easy to add more paint to alter the colour.   

 

 

I have started adding the rocks as low relief scenery to the rear of the Mallaig area. What I have not worked out yet is how to effectively join the pieces of rock together so that they blend into one.

 

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Your rocks look very effective. Out of interest do you recall what part number they are? Particularly the one on the right of the tanks. I need to get a couple more.

 

Far be it from me to offer advice on something I haven't done yet but I will be joining my rock mouldings with sculpting plaster and carving in to this. I've watched quit a bit on this subject on YouTube. Recommend Luke Towan's videos if you are unaware of them. 

 

I'm enjoying your daily updates Rob. 

 

Andy.

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I have used Polyfilla Deep Gap*  both as a 'glue' to fix the rocks into place and to fill any gaps.  Once dried you can scribe to match the faces or fill in with a bit foliage.  I suspect this is similar to what Andy does with sculpting plaster.

 

*Other brands available etc etc.

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Not a lot to record today as yesterday was a working day on the GWSR where it was nice to get out in the fresh, if slightly damp, air. I can report that it is a lot easier moving sleepers on WHL4 than in real life! 

 

 

22 hours ago, mallaig1983 said:

Out of interest do you recall what part number they are? Particularly the one on the right of the tanks.

 

The mould is C1244, facet rock. I have 4 of the larger moulds which, if the WS adverising is to be believed, can be used to create a variety of smaller sizes by breaking the bigger moulds into pieces or by only part filling the larger mould.  

 

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22 hours ago, mallaig1983 said:

I will be joining my rock mouldings with sculpting plaster and carving in to this. I've watched quit a bit on this subject on YouTube. Recommend Luke Towan's videos if you are unaware of them. 

 

I have made an initial attempt using Sculptamould which I aim to paint today. If the outcome is not to the standard I want then I shall try other suggestions such as the casting plaster.

 

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22 hours ago, mallaig1983 said:

I suspect there is a Knightwing kit lurking in your railway room judging by the stands that your tanks are sitting on

Correct, its the Knightwing tank support sections. I have ordered Ratio 530 to use as the smallest tank.

 

 

 

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The Sculptamould blends in with the rock casts and painted ok creating a run of rock face to the rear of the oil terminal.  The Ratio oil tank arrived which fills the gap nicely although it needs painting and taller supports to get closer to the real thing.

 

 

Today I intend completing the low relief outcrops that extend to the station throat. Slowly but surely this is progressing, I will be glad to finish this off and get back to running again. 

 

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A quiet few days spent away from the layout recharging batteries as it were. Yesterday I returned the incomplete Mallaig scenic section to the layout because I wanted to test it all worked in practice and I needed to understand how the point motors located under the baseboard would affect the sidings and running line that sit beneath the Mallaig section. I am also waiting on signals and signal box which I want to install before finishing the scenery.

 

Once connected to the various power sources Mallaig performed faultlessly. I managed to run the 1981 morning timetable on the Mallaig extension without any hitch which was very gratifying because Mallaig was the last major point motorisation project. Apart from  a couple of sidings at Ardlui, all of the Megapoints controlled points network is now connected to the main control panel. 37175 and 37108 are seen waiting with their respective departures.

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1 hour ago, young37215 said:

Apart from  a couple of sidings at Ardlui, all of the Megapoints controlled points network is now connected to the main control panel

Rob,

Are you using the MegaPoints 'expansion boards' or are you under the 24-turnout limit of a plain MultiPanel?

Ian

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17 hours ago, ISW said:

Rob,

Are you using the MegaPoints 'expansion boards' or are you under the 24-turnout limit of a plain MultiPanel?

Ian

 

Hi Ian

 

When finished there will be around 75 servos controlling points and semaphores. I have 3 expansion boards for both switches and LED's making a total of 96 potential connections. Room to grow......

 

To avoid colliding with the under baseboard point motor brackets I needed to realign the track connecting the upper and lower sections. What this means for the scenic potential I have not yet got my head around, I will start placing polystyrene in the residual space to get a feel for what is now achievable. The sidings will also need some minor adjustment although this is easily achieved by simply tweaking the flexitrack. 

 

Original track alignment, where the track curves was directly beneath 4 point motor brackets hence the need to realign 

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An old view with Mallaig section in place

 

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Revised track alignment avoids going under the Mallaig section

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View from the other end of the section, the track on the left is the approach to Garelochead

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8 hours ago, young37215 said:

When finished there will be around 75 servos controlling points and semaphores. I have 3 expansion boards for both switches and LED's making a total of 96 potential connections. Room to grow......

Rob,

 

That'll be quite a setup! What's the mimic panel look like, is it a single unit? The reason for asking is that I envisage 3 separate mimic panels for my layout, each with its own MultiPanel controller. That way I can place the mimic panels around the layout.

Ian

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15 hours ago, ISW said:

Rob,

 

That'll be quite a setup! What's the mimic panel look like, is it a single unit? The reason for asking is that I envisage 3 separate mimic panels for my layout, each with its own MultiPanel controller. That way I can place the mimic panels around the layout.

Ian

 

A single unit adjacent the main fiddle yard made up of two 1220 x 170 mm pieces of 3mm plywood. It's a lot of wires, switches and LED's but a fairly simple construction which started out as a test and has grown over 3 years to what it is now.  I started out with the intention of a control panel at each signal box but changed my mind when I realised that I would spend all day running around to the different panels. What I have works, it would not win prizes for its asthetic look but it does what I require of it. Should I ever win the lottery though an upgraded, glitzy control panel would be high on my list of things to buy.

 

Thanks to guidance from another thread I finally managed to seperate the chassis from the bodyshell of my PRA wagons. I found that a fine screw driver inserted under the bodyshell at the end of the wagon enabled a larger screw driver to be inserted and turned 90 degrees which released the body. I did break off 2 buffers on the first wagon but these glued back very easily and having learn from my error, the other 3 wagons were much easier and accident free. This allowed me to add 30g of lead to existing rather pathetic out of the box 44g weight resulting in a 70% increase which brings the PRA closer to the 90g of the VDA/VAA fleet. The PRA is a fabulous wagon and I hope the weight increase will reduce derailments which were becoming too frequent for my liking.   

 

The PRA's were enough work for one day, with Mallaig back on the layout I then spent a few hours running trains.

 

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37178 continues its southbound journey seen first departing Crianlarich and a little later passsing 1B10 at Garelochead. The picture taken from the road looking over the subway is one of my favourite angles. The final picture shows the residual space between the upper level Mallaig and lower level Garelochead where I am plotting how to create the scenery so that it blends in with both stations.

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37175 arrives at Mallaig and runs around 2B13, the 0845 from Fort William which returns at 11.00. This is a Rule 1 additional service using the green and cream steam hauled stock created partly for operational efficiency and partly because I wanted an extra train to run on the Mallaig extension.  

 

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Seeing the 07-40 ex Oban - Glasgow and 08-06 ex Glasgow (Queen Street) return service brought back happy memories of jaunts to sample the delights of the Crianlarich tearoom on a Saturday morning when I lived in Oban in the mid-eighties.  Happy days!

 

Roja

 

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