Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 I’ve now put down a representation down of Rose curve station avoiding lines. The Inverness overall layout is built on a triangle, two sides of which have platforms forming that station. The Rose curve Lines are the third part of that triangle avoiding the station. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 I’ve just noticed there’s a signal protecting the junction (above the loco). I think we should be able to include this on the far right hand side of the layout. https://www.flickr.com/photos/d9006/4643008406/in/album-72157610007241008/ And may be a ground signal coming the other way? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Indomitable026 said: I’ve just noticed there’s a signal protecting the junction (above the loco). I think we should be able to include this on the far right hand side of the layout. https://www.flickr.com/photos/d9006/4643008406/in/album-72157610007241008/ And may be a ground signal coming the other way? Might it be one way? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Might it be one way? Mike. Not sure what you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 One way movements, no need for bi-directional signalling? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: One way movements, no need for bi-directional signalling? Mike. You’ve got me thinking - never make assumptions... I thought it was an up and down road - it’s not, just looked the quail map... Rose St curve - bi-directional DN harbour branch - bi-directional Interesting 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 ‘Tis now, but was it then? What ‘date’ are you modelling? Inverness resignalling was mid 80s. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: ‘Tis now, but was it then? What ‘date’ are you modelling? Inverness resignalling was mid 80s. Paul. 70s and early eighties, so pre - resignalling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: The thinking is that something like a loco or snowplough could be parked here to distract the eye... And if I laid the track right in the shed it could be used as hidden storage - but would it get used? I knew I’d forgotten what I was doing This end panel is removable - the scene will go right into the fiddleyard! See here for my thinking around this... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: I knew I’d forgotten what I was doing Kind of presupposes that you knew what you were doing in the first place... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: 70s and early eighties, so pre - resignalling... From photographs taken from the overbridge just west of Rose St (on Railscot site) the curve was double track prior to resignalling. The shunt signals in the earlier post look like they were to set back onto the harbour branch. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: From photographs taken from the overbridge just west of Rose St (on Railscot site) the curve was double track prior to resignalling. The shunt signals in the earlier post look like they were to set back onto the harbour branch. Paul. In honesty having looked at this again, I don’t think it makes any difference to me - the track formation hasn’t moved. So I’ll carry on as was... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted November 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: In honesty having looked at this again, I don’t think it makes any difference to me - the track formation hasn’t moved. So I’ll carry on as was... Agreed, I don’t think the track formation did change where you are modelling. My feeling is that the Up Rose St Curve just became the extended Harbour branch so the only track removed was under the bridge up to the harbour branch connection. It only makes a difference to you if you wanted to show signals. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 Well, it’s Saturday night, a big night. What am I doing? Cutting point timbers to length.... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted November 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2020 There is a photo on Ernies site from a little further back on the turnout into the fuel road. It shows the ground signal facing the camera between the Rose Curve and Harbour line which would infer potentially both bi-directional before re-signalling. Sorry can’t manage to copy a link but it’s in the Inverness to Elgin and Keith album. Looks to be early 80s as there is a plain Blue 37 in the background. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 I’m just digging out the fascia and fiddleyard board out of the garage, it’s clear there’s been some transit damage... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Yep - it’s definitely had a nudge off something. Not too much involved to fix but does show the need for decent edge protection... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 I’ve just offered up the fascia to remind myself what we’re doing with it. The bottom of it sits higher than the based board, the reason for this is to allow the fitment of ground level strip lights. ‘Diesels in the Duchy’ suffered from not having front lighting, only overhead, this resulted in the side of the locos being in shadow if they were towards the front of the layout. Hopefully this will improve that. Also I’ll only need to model one of the front tracks on the Rose curve - you can’t see the other one with the fascia in place... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted November 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Indomitable026 said: The bottoms of it sits higher than the based board, the reason for this is to allow the fitment of ground level strip lights. ‘Diesels in the Duchy’ suffered from not having front lighting, only overhead, this resulted in the side of the locos being in shadow if they were towards the front of the layout. Hopefully this will improve that. Thank you for that idea. I’ve been wondering how to deal with lighting on my layout (albeit a long time in the future) and this is worth storing away. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: Thank you for that idea. I’ve been wondering how to deal with lighting on my layout (albeit a long time in the future) and this is worth storing away. Paul. So from the back it looks like this... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just following some of the early photo links in this thread as I get myself back up to speed. This is an interesting one, from the Derby Sulzers website. https://www.derbysulzers.com/inverness.html Great view of the fueling area. It makes me wonder if I have room to model the back of the signal box in the background - it does appear to be square on with the back scene at that end of the layout. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: Just following some of the early photo links in this thread as I get myself back up to speed. This is an interesting one, from the Derby Sulzers website. https://www.derbysulzers.com/inverness.html Great view of the fueling area. It makes me wonder if I have room to model the back of the signal box in the background - it does appear to be square on with the back scene at that end of the layout. Interesting photo, it appears to show the fuel road is slightly lower than the lines either side of it, which is something I'd not noticed in other photos you've shared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Forrest said: Interesting photo, it appears to show the fuel road is slightly lower than the lines either side of it, which is something I'd not noticed in other photos you've shared. Yes I had noticed it previously (other photos show a small retaining wall at the back of the fueling road), I’ve chosen to ignore it though out of convenience.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Indomitable026 said: Yes I had noticed it previously (other photos show a small retaining wall at the back of the fueling road), I’ve chosen to ignore it though out of convenience.... And yet you are doing this in P4? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Regularity said: And yet you are doing this in P4? Yes and there will be plenty of other compromises along the way... 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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