Chris Turnbull Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) This particular 'Black Five' rang bells with me, as it was the first '4er' I ever saw - at Low Fell back in 1963, hauling a dead V2. It was the first time I had seen it since then. Your anecdote reminded me of when I first started trainspotting back in late 1960. My dad took me in to W.H. Smith to buy an Ian Allan book of locomotive numbers in which I could underline my "cops". At that time neither of us knew much about trains - I would have been eight at the time - and we both assumed that, living in Bury St Edmunds, the pocket book of Eastern Region steam locomotives was the one to buy. So off we went to the local railway line and what was the first steam locomotive we saw? A loco with a number beginning with a "4". This totally confused my father and me and it was some time before we realised there was more to trainspotting than numbers beginning with "6". In the summer of 1961 we went to Reading where some numbers did begin with "6" but only had four digits. Another visit to Smiths revealed a much fatter book called a "Combined Volume" which cost 10/6 - a fortune for a lad who had 2/- or 2/6 pocket money per week. It was a month's income! Fortunately my father bought it for me and the full range of BR locomotives was revealed. It still resides on my bookshelf to this day. Chris Turnbull Edited February 10, 2018 by Chris Turnbull 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trev52A Posted February 10, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Two at Accrington on 17th March 1968 with loco changeovers featuring 45447 and 70013 on a 'special' Trevor Edited to remove reference to 45110. The top picture must be 45447 because there is obviously no lining out on the cabside, which 45110 did have according to other photos I have taken. The train had arrived at Accrington with 70013 coupled ahead of 45110. The loco change involved removing 70013 and replacing it with 45447. The top picture must be 45447 being coupled up ahead of 45110, off picture to the right, for the next leg of the tour to Skipton. (Well, it was 50 years ago!) Edited February 17, 2018 by Trev52A 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2018 (707b) 70013 Accrington 17-3-68 (Trevor Ermel).jpg It's grim oop North personified. Mike. Cracking shot though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) It's grim oop North personified. Mike. Cracking shot though. Or..... Look at all of that affordable housing. Mind you I was brought up in Oldham and Middleton and have now lived in London for 34 years. Edited February 10, 2018 by flapland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2018 Or..... Look at all of that affordable housing. Mind you I was brought in Oldham and Middleton and have now lived in London for 34 years. You have my sympathies on both counts. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trev52A Posted February 11, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2018 Three views at Carnforth shed on 2nd August 1968 featuring 44894, 70013 and 73069 Trevor 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2018 Possibly the best thread on RMWeb at the mo. Thanks for the photos folks. Cheers, Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Two at Accrington on 17th March 1968 with loco changeovers featuring 45447, 45110 and 70013 on a 'special' (2108a) 45110+70013 Accrington 17-3-68 (T Ermel).jpg 45110 in the foreground (707b) 70013 Accrington 17-3-68 (Trevor Ermel).jpg 45447 in the background Trevor I think the shot of 45110 - with 70013's under the station sign - is one of the best photos I have ever seen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I think the shot of 45110 - with 70013's under the station sign - is one of the best photos I have ever seen. Yes, it is rather fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Amid all this nostalgia, there is a strong whiff of Déjà vu http://www.cityam.com/280397/transport-minister-jo-johnson-calls-diesel-only-trains Mark the 3rd of August 2040 in your diary folks (if we are still around), and head to Preston to witness a pair of 156s head for Colne on the last ever diesel working I note one option not being considered is a fleet of Tornados! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djparkins Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I note one option not being considered is a fleet of Tornados! Jim I think the RAF are phasing out Tornadoes over the next two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trev52A Posted February 12, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2018 Here's a portrait of 48476 nicely cleaned at Lostock Hall shed on 2nd August 1968.. Two days later it was double-heading with 73069 on one of the 'end of steam' specials near Turton on 4th August.. Trevor 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) @ david.hill64 & Andy Sharpe Thank you for the kind comments about my recent photo of 45110. 45447 I can't remember now whether it was a quick grab shot, or if I had to wait a while until the crowd cleared in front of 70013. Either way, it's quite a nice view of the driver of 45110 45447 as well. Kind regards Trevor Edited to correct the number of the Black Five in both the Accrington pictures. Edited February 17, 2018 by Trev52A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 @ david.hill64 & Andy Sharpe Thank you for the kind comments about my recent photo of 45110. I can't remember now whether it was a quick grab shot, or if I had to wait a while until the crowd cleared in front of 70013. Either way, it's quite a nice view of the driver of 45110 as well. Kind regards Trevor It's a fantastically composed shot, whether by accident or design, it captures so much. Brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 @ david.hill64 & Andy Sharpe Thank you for the kind comments about my recent photo of 45110. I can't remember now whether it was a quick grab shot, or if I had to wait a while until the crowd cleared in front of 70013. Either way, it's quite a nice view of the driver of 45110 as well. Kind regards Trevor At the risk of creating a mutual appreciation society, the thanks must surely go to you, Trevor, for firstly taking it and secondly posting it here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It's grim oop North personified. Not in all parts, but you have to make allowances for it being Lancashire! Hat, coat and White Rose - outta here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
73c Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 There's a fair old dip in that bit of track in the first photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2018 Not just the track, the whole ground by the look of the foreground road which is dipping in the same way. Collapsed drain maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 48410, an old friend from happier days at Old Oak Common turns up at Rose Grove on the 30th June 1968. Apologies for the poor quality. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2018 Having watched steam in that area and that era I can't express how much I'm loving this thread. I was 15 at the time and this thread has brought back so many great memories. Those lovely dirty, noisy yet magnificent machines had been the backdrop to my youth. Living where we did at Giggleswick it seems to me now that there was scarcely a time of day when I couldn't hear a steam loco working. I suppose that like many have commented we thought that it would never end. The videos and photos posted on here have really brought that back. Please keep posting. Jamie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Two taken at Stockport (Edgeley) shed (9B) on a cold and damp 16th March 1968 48723 alongside a Type 2 in the rather attractive two-tone green livery It looks like 'open house' at the shed with three main line locos on display: Preserved 4472 Flying Scotsman on the left, preserved 5596 Bahamas in the centre and 70013 Oliver Cromwell on the right. The two Pacifics were in action on enthusiast 'specials' from Stockport the following day Trevor 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2018 Two taken at Stockport (Edgeley) shed (9B) on a cold and damp 16th March 1968 (2100b) 48723+D5274 Stockport Edgeley MPD 16-03-68 (T Ermel).jpg 48723 alongside a Type 2 in the rather attractive two-tone green livery (610a) 70013+4472+ 5596 Stockport Edgeley MPD 16-03-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg It looks like 'open house' at the shed with three main line locos on display: Preserved 4472 Flying Scotsman on the left, preserved 5596 Bahamas in the centre and 70013 Oliver Cromwell on the right. The two Pacifics were in action on enthusiast 'specials' from Stockport the following day Were the specials the William Deacons Bank specials that went to Carnforth, if so I saw them that day and that helps me pin point the date our school transport society had tours of Carnforth and Rose Grove. Jamie Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4rosegrove Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Two taken at Stockport (Edgeley) shed (9B) on a cold and damp 16th March 1968 (2100b) 48723+D5274 Stockport Edgeley MPD 16-03-68 (T Ermel).jpg 48723 alongside a Type 2 in the rather attractive two-tone green livery (610a) 70013+4472+ 5596 Stockport Edgeley MPD 16-03-68 (Trevor Ermel) .jpg It looks like 'open house' at the shed with three main line locos on display: Preserved 4472 Flying Scotsman on the left, preserved 5596 Bahamas in the centre and 70013 Oliver Cromwell on the right. The two Pacifics were in action on enthusiast 'specials' from Stockport the following day Trevor I was there - lots of people bunking 9B that day! Thx for posting, I only took pictures of the celebrities and now wish that I had taken the real scene like you did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Two taken at Stockport (Edgeley) shed (9B) on a cold and damp 16th March 1968 (2100b) 48723+D5274 Stockport Edgeley MPD 16-03-68 (T Ermel).jpg 48723 alongside a Type 2 in the rather attractive two-tone green livery Main interest on the 8F photo is that it shows a loco coupled to a 3500 gallon tender. There's a bigger gap between the stepped down bit at the back and the top row of rivets and that same row of rivets is way out of line with the top handrail knob at the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Main interest on the 8F photo is that it shows a loco coupled to a 3500 gallon tender. There's a bigger gap between the stepped down bit at the back and the top row of rivets and that same row of rivets is way out of line with the top handrail knob at the front. I knew that there were variations on tenders attached to the Black Fives - I didn't realise it also applied to 8Fs. Thanks for pointing it out. (I certainly didn't notice it at the time!) Regards Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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