RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just going back to the lead between the roofs, I looked up what colours I used for it. Turns out it is neat Humbrol Matt Acrylic 96 PRU Blue. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Just going back to the lead between the roofs, I looked up what colours I used for it. Turns out it is neat Humbrol Matt Acrylic 96 PRU Blue. Al. Thanks Al I suppose I should put some lead flashing around the canopy? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 I guess it depends on what material the canopy is covered in, to a certain extent. If it's the usual bitumen and gravel, then the flashing would probably be bitumen or tarpaper as well. On two sides, the roof slates overhang the canopy, so you wouldn't necessarily need flashing, but the left side as you look at it would need some sort of flashing to protect the join from the main building wall. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Alister_G said: I guess it depends on what material the canopy is covered in, to a certain extent. If it's the usual bitumen and gravel, then the flashing would probably be bitumen or tarpaper as well. On two sides, the roof slates overhang the canopy, so you wouldn't necessarily need flashing, but the left side as you look at it would need some sort of flashing to protect the join from the main building wall. Al. Like this very rough sketch? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 Yep exactly. I would expect the flashing from wall to slates would be lead - it's just what was used invariably - and therefore it would make sense to continue with lead across the canopy area as well. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2019 I’ll have a play with some wafer thin plasticard..... ......after Christmas 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 I know the ‘zig-zag’ is cut wrong, I just did it free hand to test the principal to see if it would work 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 Don't you think Plastikard is too thick? I use 100 g/m2 paper. Put in place and brush on solvent. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: Don't you think Plastikard is too thick? I use 100 g/m2 paper. Put in place and brush on solvent. yes it is too thick, I was just testing the principle with a bit of scrap Id not considered using paper, good idea, thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave John Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 26, 2019 Another alternative is to use the self adhesive "lead" foil that is sold by angling shops for weighting flies. It can be moulded into the stonework and slates and when toned down does look very Lead like. This sort of thing; https://www.fishingmegastore.com/fly-tying-materials/-adhesive-lead-foil~4106.html 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) I’m going about it all wrong, the flashing doesn’t go on top of the tiles, it needs to be more like this... Edited December 26, 2019 by chuffinghell 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 Take two I carefully cut a gap between the wall and roof and cut a thin piece of plasticard to shape and slide it between the gap Not perfect but it’s getting closer....I hope 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, chuffinghell said: I’m going about it all wrong, the flashing doesn’t go on top of the tiles, it needs to be more like this... It looks like there may be different opinions. I think your photo is a bit deceiving. See this one: However, there's also this one: Confused now... Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alister_G said: ........Confused now... Al. we live in a terraced house and the kitchen has a pitched roof up against the wall and the flashing is under the tiles as is our neighbours the only place where the flashing is above the tiles is around the chimney strange how I never thought to look at my own surroundings Edited December 26, 2019 by chuffinghell 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 We don't have any FLASHING around here, thank you very much, this is a nice neighbourhood, haha 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I think it depends on whether the roof is slated or tiled and when it was last renewed. I suspect the flashing is under tiles but over the felt which will be underneath the tiles otherwise it's pointless. As built, slated roofs had no felt underneath so the lead has to go on top. I'm no builder, slater or roofer so am happy to corrected. Edited December 27, 2019 by Rowsley17D 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 I’ve not glued it in place yet, wanted others opinions first it's quite subtle now it’s painted, gone for a 50:50 blue/grey I plan to run a length along the top of the canopy too 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Rowsley17D said: I think it depends on whether the roof is slated or tiled and when it was last renewed. I suspect the flashing is under tiles but over the felt which will be underneath the tiles otherwise it's pointless. As built, slated roofs had no felt underneath so the lead has to go on top. I'm no builder, slater or roofer so am happy to corrected. I don't think any roofs of that era would have had felt, so the flashing would be over the tiles. Best option would be to find photos of GW station buildings from the time period modelled. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick C said: I don't think any roofs of that era would have had felt, so the flashing would be over the tiles. Best option would be to find photos of GW station buildings from the time period modelled. I’ve struggled to find images that are clear enough as most of what I’ve found are either low resolution or have the flashing in shadow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Well that will have to do Hopefully look better when it’s weathered? Edited December 27, 2019 by chuffinghell 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Well I think it looks absolutely fine mate, a really nice job. Al. Edited December 27, 2019 by Alister_G 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 27, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Well I think it looks absolutely fine mate, a really nice job. Al. Thanks Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted December 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2019 Looks very convincing to me. What about a longer shot? We rarely get this close to our models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Rowsley17D said: Looks very convincing to me. What about a longer shot? We rarely get this close to our models. I won’t glue the valance in place until I’ve finished painting/weathering the walls Following on from the comment made by @Nick C about builds of the era not having felt I’m looking at add flashing to the other end too 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted December 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2019 Started to pick out the quoins, lintels and sills in a lighter grey although I suspect once weathered the difference in shade will be unnoticeable unfortunately As with all my ‘builds’ it’s coming together nicely and as usual very slowly 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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