RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Coaches have arrived back from TMC Not bad for a pair of knackered old coaches bought off eBay for a fiver Edited February 24, 2019 by chuffinghell 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Although I’m a big believer in “less is more” I’m tempted to paint the axle box covers I’m open to opinions and/or suggestions Edited January 17, 2019 by chuffinghell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2019 Think I might attempt an autocoach next to pair up with my 64xx unless I can get a hold of a 14xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Think I might attempt an autocoach next to pair up with my 64xx unless I can get a hold of a 14xx eBay is definitely your friend for the 14xx. You can quite easily find both a body shell and a chassis for one to put together yourself for under half of the price of buying one in one piece. Edited January 18, 2019 by RedGemAlchemist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) eBay is definitely your friend for the 14xx. You can quite easily find both a body shell and a chassis for one to put together yourself for under half of the price of buying one in one piece. I had considered a Hornby 14xx and removing the traction tyres etc unfortunately they're not exactly very detailed and I'm not sure my skills are quite there yet to do anything about it plus the last one I had sounded like a cement mixer I had also considered a Hattons 48xx (with auto gear) but they are only available with the weathered shirt button monogram, ideally I'd prefer one with 'GREAT WESTERN' lettering Edited January 18, 2019 by chuffinghell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I had considered a Hornby 14xx and removing the traction tyres etc unfortunately they're not exactly very detailed Wow, that's not what we thought when frist they came out under Airfix (Yikes about 40 years ago!! ) Mind we were comparing to the likes of Hornby's J83... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Your coaches look very good. You have inspired me to have a go at a pair that I have. I recently bought an Airfix 14XX, because I found amongst a box of bit I was given, a Comet 14xx chassis that has been very well built using Romford wheels and Mashima motor. I found a very good condition loco on ebay for £20 and have removed the original chassis. The body is very well detailed and dimensions seem to be accurate, so I will turn up a new chimney, safety valve and smokebox door, replace any moulded handrails. Romove carefully the toolboxes, and fill the gaps. Then make new boxes and fit in the correct position. Weathering I do myself, using my airbrush or powders made from ground up chalk. It works very well, and is a lot cheaper than buying commercially available powders. Carry on your good work, and yes ancient rtr models can be tarted up to look really good. I know the 14XX will. Sometime when I have mastered the vagaries of posting photos on here you will see some of my work. Cheers for now Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rhnrhn Posted January 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2019 Although I’m a big believer in “less is more” I’m tempted to paint the axle box covers I’m open to opinions and/or suggestions The GWR Modelling Web pages have a section on coach liveries. This page mentions painting of axle boxes: http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriescoach1928.html which might help you decide. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2019 The GWR Modelling Web pages have a section on coach liveries. This page mentions painting of axle boxes: http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriescoach1928.html which might help you decide. Regards Thank you, it was looking on that site that made me think about painting them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2019 Wow, that's not what we thought when frist they came out under Airfix (Yikes about 40 years ago!! ) Mind we were comparing to the likes of Hornby's J83... My apologies, I didn’t mean to offend. I perhaps should have said “not very well detailed when compared to the DJ Models version” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 No offence, just a reflection on how far we've come really, though I'd say in recent years the biggest steps forward have been in the appearance of the wheels and motion which were still largely 'bright and shiny' even on the then new generation models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 23, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2019 I’ve had my suburbans re-weathered by Steve at Grimy Times I felt that TMC’s weathering was a little flat and lifeless Steve pays a lot more attention to detail, even applying powers in the door gaps and grim on the roof 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted February 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm not a steam-era modeller, nor do I have any particular interest in the GWR, but they look superb. The weathering, as you say, is excellent and they look to have a real 'weight' about them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, JDW said: I'm not a steam-era modeller, nor do I have any particular interest in the GWR, but they look superb. The weathering, as you say, is excellent and they look to have a real 'weight' about them. Thank you I sometimes wish I didn’t model the steam-era and/or had an interest in GWR I often wonder if I should have modelled later/modern-era diesels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 14/12/2018 at 14:35, george stein said: Checking various fora it seems Hornby released a version with the wrong bogies. Got mine off ebay, so dude was unloading Hornby's error. Will get the right bogies. Again, thanks for the helpful info. On 15/12/2018 at 14:50, BernardTPM said: There was a batch built in 1933 to dia.E145 with 9ft plate bogies (like the type Airfix used under most of their other GWR coaches and Siphons). The bodywork was identical to the E141 design by Airfix/Hornby. Hornby made the gaff of putting BR Mk1 bogies under the B Sets, not the 9ft plate bogies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 23/02/2019 at 18:39, chuffinghell said: I felt that TMC’s weathering was a little flat and lifeless I'm glad you've seen and said that, I didn't really want to mention it before as you seemed happy with their work. I've never rated their work, they just seem to waft a bit of muck colour on with an airbrush and call it "weathering". I think airbrushing is just one part of a toolset you need for decent weathering. Glad you got some good results with Grimy Times, they look a lot better now. Hope your confidence levels are rising nicely now, you made a great job of all the upgrades on these coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, 57xx said: Hornby made the gaff of putting BR Mk1 bogies under the B Sets, not the 9ft plate bogies. Good grief! Now that really is silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BernardTPM said: Good grief! Now that really is silly. R4549 & R4549A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, 57xx said: ...........I didn't really want to mention it before as you seemed happy with their work. I have been reasonably happy with their work it just lacked something It's appreciated that you didn't mention it at the time as it would have no doubt knocked the wind out of my sails even though you would have been quite correct 3 hours ago, 57xx said: Glad you got some good results with Grimy Times, they look a lot better now. Yes they do look a lot better, I'm very pleased with them 3 hours ago, 57xx said: Hope your confidence levels are rising nicely now, you made a great job of all the upgrades on these coaches. Thank you. I'm getting there, especially with the positive comments for members like yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted February 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: R4549 & R4549A Even I can see that they look ridiculous! Especially with those six foot long couplings. How on earth did they manage that?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted February 28, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, JDW said: Even I can see that they look ridiculous! Especially with those six foot long couplings. How on earth did they manage that?! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Well, there were some Great Western coaches fitted with B4 bogies but not any B sets! Also explains how they were able to fit them - those are also ex-Airfix, from their Mk.2d air-con coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, 57xx said: Hornby made the gaff of putting BR Mk1 bogies under the B Sets, not the 9ft plate bogies. Not even Mark 1s - B4s? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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