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6 minutes ago, owentherail said:

I'm BR blue so nothing for me. GBFreight fans must be chuffed with both 50s and a few other locos in there liveries . 

Maybe kernow will do a un referb 50 with arrows in middle 

You do feel as BR 1970- 1995 has passed them by a bit - is that more telling about what sells ? Steamies and diesels bang up to date it seems ( like those 50s in the hideous GBRF guise.Vomit ).

 

did the large logo 50s not sell ? Did the skinhead 31 not sell ?

 

at least the Dutch 31 , strange name , is that a tree ?

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4 minutes ago, Gordieb01 said:

The Peppercorn A1 class locomotives are one of my favourite classes of locomotive ever.   However it irritates me greatly that Hornby whenever they bring out a new version of this loco seem to be obsessed with calling it "Tornado" after the new build.   The original 49 locomotives had some wonderful and evocative  names,  eg;  Flamboyant,  St Mungo , Madge Wildfire etc.  What the hell is wrong with commemorating some of the original locomotives.  

 

 

Is it not the case that the Hornby tooling represents Tornado as built, and there are differences between it and the original A1s?

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6 minutes ago, Gordieb01 said:

The Peppercorn A1 class locomotives are one of my favourite classes of locomotive ever.   However it irritates me greatly that Hornby whenever they bring out a new version of this loco seem to be obsessed with calling it "Tornado" after the new build.   The original 49 locomotives had some wonderful and evocative  names,  eg;  Flamboyant,  St Mungo , Madge Wildfire etc.  What the hell is wrong with commemorating some of the original locomotives.  

Well, the Hornby tooling is of Tornado, i.e. lower chimney and cab to conform to the loading gauge, different tender around the water filler cap and different cabinet arrangements at the front of the tender. That didn't stop them making Bon Accord a few years ago, though...

 

Edit - beaten to it by the previous post

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1 hour ago, Coryton said:

I  wonder what Mr Bassett-Lowke would have made of it all?

 

 

That whirring noise isn't all the stuck-on cogs, its him spinning in his grave.

 

Steampunk away to your heart's content, but put the BL name on these products? Please, please, noooo.

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14 minutes ago, Gordieb01 said:

The Peppercorn A1 class locomotives are one of my favourite classes of locomotive ever.   However it irritates me greatly that Hornby whenever they bring out a new version of this loco seem to be obsessed with calling it "Tornado" after the new build.   The original 49 locomotives had some wonderful and evocative  names,  eg;  Flamboyant,  St Mungo , Madge Wildfire etc.  What the hell is wrong with commemorating some of the original locomotives.  

Good to see the Standard class 2,  but Hornby need to concentrate less on Express passenger and more on the common smaller locomotives from the steam era.

IIRC, the Hornby A1 is only accurate for the new-build loco. If you want a "proper" A1, it'll come in a blue box (always supposing they are still making them).

 

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52 minutes ago, truffy said:

 

I don't have your experience in pre-grouping, so I'm guessing that this is a gauge comment. Correct?

 

 

I've been looking for a dimensioned drawing of Rocket without success. My suspicion is that the diameter of the boiler over cladding is greater, at 4 mm/ft scale, than the standard OO back-to-back. 

 

Not a gauge comment per se, so much as an observation on the practical difficulties in producing the model. It's a practical difficulty that doesn't arise with a Class 47, or indeed with most locomotives built after, say, 1860, since there's no key element of the model that has visibly to fit between the back-to-back of the wheels. I have no gauge axe to grind, I'm a happy OO modeller.

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I'm guessing it was chosen because it sounded all "Steampunk-ey"??

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1 minute ago, Dunsignalling said:

IIRC, the Hornby A1 is only accurate for the new-build loco. If you want a "proper" A1, it'll come in a blue box (always supposing they are still making them).

 

John

Correct. With minor loco body mods and significant tender body mods a good representation of the original a1s can be made.

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At least us BR blue modellers have a very good looking TTS Class 08. BTW did anyone else check where 3817 was allocated ? In the early 70s it was at Ashford Chart Leacon, the nearest BR depot to Margate ! Nice.

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1 hour ago, Coryton said:

 

Well no, they're just steam.

 

So far as I'm aware, the general idea of steampunk in fiction is to imagine steam technology developing further, rather than being replaced by electricity, electronics and internal combusion engines.

 

 

Perhaps I could have expressed myself better. Steampunk is pretty broad in its scope, encompassing space travel and magic in some cases. And indeed, much of steampunk involves extrapolations of Victorian transport technology.

 

But consider a work like The Difference Engine, in which something similar to modern information technology is implemented with mechanical computers. For these things the Victorian steam technology works pretty much unmodified as a setting.

 

That's what I was getting at. But I think we're pretty much in agreement.

 

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3 hours ago, rogerzilla said:

"Lode Star" is a reissue, surely?  The STEAM museum in Swindon was selling them as limited editions a few years ago.

 

Why do SR modellers need an H and an M7?  They did the same jobs and look similar.  Give us a W!

 

 

The M7 is a fair bit bigger than an H and both are useful to me :) I'll welcome any prototypes that ventured through Sussex in the last decade of the SR tbh! Most GWR 4-6-0s look the same to me and BR Liveried 4-6-2s with smoke deflectors, regardless or grouping origin, all big bulky characterless things (to my eye)... I guess it just depends what you have an eye for!

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28 minutes ago, JamieR4489 said:

Well, the Hornby tooling is of Tornado, i.e. lower chimney and cab to conform to the loading gauge, different tender around the water filler cap and different cabinet arrangements at the front of the tender. That didn't stop them making Bon Accord a few years ago, though...

 

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Thanks for that I wasn't aware of the differences in the Hornby version.  As another poster has said I'll need to go for the Blue box versions if they are more accurate to the originals

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11 minutes ago, TangoOscarMike said:

 

Perhaps I could have expressed myself better. Steampunk is pretty broad in its scope, encompassing space travel and magic in some cases. And indeed, much of steampunk involves extrapolations of Victorian transport technology.

 

But consider a work like The Difference Engine, in which something similar to modern information technology is implemented with mechanical computers. For these things the Victorian steam technology works pretty much unmodified as a setting.

 

That's what I was getting at. But I think we're pretty much in agreement.

 

 

I see what you mean. Yes, I think we are in agreement.

 

And an unmodified steam engine would fit such an environment much better than the monstrosities Hornby are offering.

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£485 for the 7-Car APT on the Hornby website - £252 on Hattons :blink:

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2 minutes ago, TFR said:

£485 for the 7-Car APT on the Hornby website - £252 on Hattons :blink:

Pricing errors happened last year so perhaps the price changed and hattons didn't get the memo? The Hornby magazine youtube review of the range said some prices were under revision. 

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Woooooo, Malachite Lord Nelson! I'm just not sure if the livery is pre, or post war, the lining on the deflectors would suggest post, but the lining on the steps, and (I think) the lettering style would suggest pre. Nothing some quick paint work and re-lettering wouldn't take care of!

 

And that W1, oof, I don't think i've ever been more tempted by an Eastern loco.

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So happy! I'll definitely be getting a couple of W1s and Thompson Pacifics.

 

Also like the look of the APT despite not modelling that era or region. And a new Rocket! That's definitely an indulgence I'll be acting on.

 

Well done Hornby for a daring and very exciting range of products! Feels like new life has been injected into the marketplace 

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43 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

Steampunk away to your heart's content, but put the BL name on these products? Please, please, noooo.

Yes does seem a bit odd to associate such an esteemed name with the Steampunk range. I hope it does well for them though - it's pretty risky but could end up being a winner. 

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10 hours ago, GordonC said:

 

Is there not enough superdetailed Blue-grey HST's available on the secondhand market? They've done at least a couple of batches of them now

A lot of Lima, ex-Lima and early Hornby blue-grey HSTs available second hand, but I've not seen many of the super-detailed blue-grey versions, aside from a few at insane prices on a well known auction site. Maybe I've just been unlucky? I must confess that I've only been looking for the past 6 months or so and I may have missed these when they were more plentiful on the SH market. 

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4 hours ago, Islesy said:

No, they don’t! They are nothing to do with Oxford.


Cheers for the clarification Paul :good_mini:

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1 hour ago, Ozexpatriate said:

 That 4003 Lode Star looks straight out of a decade ago - with all the disfiguring elements of that disappointing release. How many spokes are on that pilot bogie? Surely they will put a handrail on the cab instead of the awful cheap and cheerful shelf? "Design Clever" lives!! Worst of all is the ski-jump footplate in the cab with the scale four foot drop onto the tender floor. (These were glued in place on the original Star releases.) 

 

Please Hornby you will fix this in 2020? Right?

 

I just assumed they demoted the new Lode Star to Railroad.

Haven't they? ......

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6 hours ago, NIK said:

Hi,

 

I think it only allows a maximum of 12 points or other accessories.

 

I haven't found a mention of whether it can cope with trains being driven from one track to another.

 

Regards 

 

Nick

It's beauty from my perspective is to use as a wireless controller on an existing DC  layout.

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5 hours ago, wirey33 said:

 

Awesome.

 

Six days in and I think we have "2020 Post of the Year".

 

 

Prick of the year would be more fitting.

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Just realised in all the excitement no Ivor the engine tie in booooooooooo!

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