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Done a bit of scenic tidying up of unfinished bits. The cart track across the meadow now has grass down the middle, and there’s a fence to stop people driving off the edge of the upper road while admiring the view. And, wonder of wonders, the church is finally fixed into the landscape. 
 

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One of the drawbacks of fitting so much railway into a small space is that it can be tricky to keep the parts of the layout visually separate. The different levels on this layout help a lot with that, but at the buffer stop end of the yard we have 3 elements close together and all on much the same level - the yard itself, the main line around the end of the yard and the outer part of the main line on the viaduct. 
 

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I’m trying to improve this with visual barriers that help the brain to focus on the piece of track where the train is at the time, like when you look at a big landscape but your brain is only seeing one feature and the rest sort of blurs out. 
 

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The fence on the right is inspired by Mr Tea’s excellent roadside fence on Veja Megstra, although I’ve adapted the design a bit and the clumsy construction is all down to me. Trust me when I tell you it looks much better from a respectful distance. Along with the new safety fence, trees and even the new mast on the other side it creates a narrow corridor that does help to trick the eye. 
 

I've also started to veggify the bare mountain and I’m experimenting with different sizes of tree to try and get a forced perspective of height and distance. Not sure I’ve got the right trees in the right places yet, but I've got more trees on order to give that whole end of the layout a bit more character so there should be something I can use. 
 

Meanwhile, I’ve just received a nice parcel from SB Modelbau which should eventually get my Minitrix Re420s running as nicely as the brown Re425s. Should keep me quiet for a while. 
 

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Thanks for explaining your reasoning and showing before and after pictures. It really helps a novice like me to get some idea of what I'll need to think about when (and if) I ever get round to building a layout.

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2 hours ago, Jim Easterbrook said:

Thanks for explaining your reasoning and showing before and after pictures. It really helps a novice like me to get some idea of what I'll need to think about when (and if) I ever get round to building a layout.


Thank you Jim, that’s good to know. This is my first scenic layout so I’m learning as I go along and trying to pitch these posts so they maybe help other novices without boring those who have more experience. I hope your project, when it comes, gives you as much pleasure as I’ve had from this one. 

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On 06/03/2021 at 18:37, Frutigen said:

To some extent I've designed the whole layout to be viewed from the end, looking along the tracks,

 

 

 

 

I have always looked at layouts from end on if and where I can   (not easy at many shows for layouts not on 'corner plots'). It's by far the most realistic view of most scenes

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On 04/03/2021 at 19:12, Frutigen said:

 

Yes, the hoppers are 4 Minitrix and 8 Lima. I no longer see the Minitrix type in current photos and videos (plus they've changed the livery) but I seem to recall seeing them running both types together in the past.

 

 

I doubt you will have seen them in any photos as the Minitrix model is a fantasy. It is an inaccurate Swiss livery on a pure German wagon, a type that AFAIK never went outside Germany. Minitrix used the same model to make a 'British Rail' HTV   - an even worse falsehood!

By contrast the Lima (latter Minitrain, Arnold) are actually a very good rendition despite the tooling dating from the 1980s (if not earlier)

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8 hours ago, Gordonwis said:

 

I doubt you will have seen them in any photos as the Minitrix model is a fantasy. It is an inaccurate Swiss livery on a pure German wagon, a type that AFAIK never went outside Germany. Minitrix used the same model to make a 'British Rail' HTV   - an even worse falsehood!

By contrast the Lima (latter Minitrain, Arnold) are actually a very good rendition despite the tooling dating from the 1980s (if not earlier)

 

That's a shame, I've always really liked the look  of those minitrix wagons and was looking forward to the excuse for getting some.

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On 17/03/2021 at 08:59, Satan's Goldfish said:

 

That's a shame, I've always really liked the look  of those minitrix wagons and was looking forward to the excuse for getting some.

Rule 1 - your railway, you run what you want.

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1 hour ago, JimFin said:

Rule 1 - your railway, you run what you want.

 Very valid point!

In an ideal world when I build in Swiss N it'd be on the Swiss-Dutch border, but that's pushing rule 1 too far for me! :mail:

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12 hours ago, Satan's Goldfish said:

 Very valid point!

In an ideal world when I build in Swiss N it'd be on the Swiss-Dutch border, but that's pushing rule 1 too far for me! :mail:


That might not be soooo far fetched. On a coach trip around the Grimsel/Furka/Susten passes yonks ago the Swiss coach driver was joking about how they would rename the Rhine when Europe joins the Swiss Federation. The way he saw it, the Aare is the bigger river, so when they join at Koblenz (the Swiss one) the name should carry on to the North Sea. 

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One thing I’ve learned by experience is to get any water in and set before doing vegetation in the area, otherwise loose bits of foliage all jump into your sticky water gloop of choice while you’re not looking. I thought it was about time to put water in the dry gorge under the viaduct before I plant any more trees. The river bed was already quite detailed and I hoped some of it would be visible through the water, so I decided to just pour in artist’s gloss medium and see what happens. 
 

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Not perfect but I think I need to resist the temptation to “improve” it. 

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Looks great Keith.

 

you are right, leave it a few days before doing anything with it. Water products are not the easiest to deal with. Sometimes they go cloudy after a few days out of the blue.

 

Water ripple products are a great way to add surface texture and in my experience here are far more reliable than other products. Try Deluxe Making Waves or Woodlands Water Ripples.

 

fun to do too!

 

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Now the water in the waterfall and gorge has hardened I’ve added some more trees as a backdrop (might need a bit more greenery yet), installed railings and mast on the viaduct and weathered the track.
 

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Once I’ve got all the Re420s converted I’ll do another video showing them in action in the new scenery. Three of them upgraded very easily with the coreless motor and flywheel combo from SG Modelbau but the fourth is being put together from leftovers in the spares box, some of which require a little work. 

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I got a bit sidetracked from upgrading the Re420s and decided to modify the grassy cutting that leads up to the viaduct. It turned out to be a bit too high-sided which got in the way of the view from my favourite seat, so I took a knife to the plastic siding that forms the landscape profile. In the first picture the landscape is still in its original position even though I’ve removed the side material.

 

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Second photo shows the revised profile, along with improved grass treatment on the slope beyond, slightly fewer trees on top and ballast on the track. The overall effect provides a much better view as the train approaches the viaduct, gorge and tunnel. I really must get round to colouring the layout fascia dark grey or black. 

 

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