Sophia NSE Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Do I have enough masking tape? I'll line a couple of the coaches to see if it looks good Edited May 21, 2020 by Sophia NSE Duplicate picture Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sophia NSE said: Do I have enough masking tape? I'll line a couple of the coaches to see if it looks good Was that couple of dozen you meant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 For some reason the picture uploaded twice. I only have 2 rolls 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2020 Still enough to do a dozen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted May 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2020 You can never have enough masking tape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 21, 2020 Author Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, chuffinghell said: You can never have enough masking tape Especially the yellow stuff! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 If you're an LSWR fan make sure you're sitting down as today's heathenry involves a GBL T9 and an M7 chassis installed backwards SECR meets LSWR on the WKR I know the M7 wheelbase isn't quite right but it doesn't look entirely hideous. The inside of the body needs a little fettling for it to run properly, which can be for another day 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Oddly enough the Triang-Hornby M7 wheelbase isn't right for an M7 either (probably because the wheels were too big). Edited May 23, 2020 by BernardTPM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BernardTPM said: Oddly enough the Triang-Hornby M7 wheelbase isn't right for an M7 either (probably because the wheels were too big). I wonder how many locos they used the same chassis for... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 20:35, Sophia NSE said: It'll be a little unorthodox as I've already built the baseboards out of foamboard Sounds interesting, I'd be glad to see your methods. By foamboard do you mean the thick cellular stuff sold for cavity wall insulation - about 4cm thick? Or what I think of as foamboard - expanded polystyrene with a card layer each side about 5mm thick? I've heard of people using both types. Any good tips you have will inform any new layout I build - something small and maybe narrow gauge (been watching too many Youtube videos of feldbahnen). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Artless Bodger said: Sounds interesting, I'd be glad to see your methods. By foamboard do you mean the thick cellular stuff sold for cavity wall insulation - about 4cm thick? Or what I think of as foamboard - expanded polystyrene with a card layer each side about 5mm thick? I've heard of people using both types. Any good tips you have will inform any new layout I build - something small and maybe narrow gauge (been watching too many Youtube videos of feldbahnen). Its the 5mm foamboard from art supply and craft shops. I used plenty of PVA and tape to hold it together This section is 5.5 feet by 18 inches and I have another 4 foot by 18 inch section. The extra small piece is to house my controller and point switches eventually. I just need a couple more sheets for backscenes and cross bracing. Total cost so far is under £20 with absolutely zero carpentry skills required 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Sophia NSE said: I wonder how many locos they used the same chassis for... As far as I know, nothing else. It was a new chassis in 1967, though it used the over-sized B12 wheels. The distinctive air reservoir is cast-in. A popular conversion at the time was to Caledonian Railway 0-4-4Ts. The standard X04 motor sits usefully lower than older chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: As far as I know, nothing else. It was a new chassis in 1967, though it used the over-sized B12 wheels. The distinctive air reservoir is cast-in. A popular conversion at the time was to Caledonian Railway 0-4-4Ts. The standard X04 motor sits usefully lower than older chassis. Did they ever bother to change them to the correct size with the newer models? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Sophia NSE said: Its the 5mm foamboard from art supply and craft shops. I used plenty of PVA and tape to hold it together This section is 5.5 feet by 18 inches and I have another 4 foot by 18 inch section. The extra small piece is to house my controller and point switches eventually. I just need a couple more sheets for backscenes and cross bracing. Total cost so far is under £20 with absolutely zero carpentry skills required Great! Thank you for these photos, they illustrate your methods clearly. The 5mm foamboard I can cope with and concur with your comment on woodworking skills. However hard I try with squares, G clamps etc, I can never get 2x1 sawn, drilled and screwed square. I made an error with foamboard - used for a high level road, I glued wet and dry for the road surface with Bostik All Purpose, the solvent permeated the card layer and dissolved the polystyrene core, hence the road developed bubbles and sags. PVA next time! That T9 looks good too, in case you wanted something a bit different I think the preceeding Drummond 4-4-0 - LSWR C8 - had a shorter coupled wheelbase. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said: Great! Thank you for these photos, they illustrate your methods clearly. The 5mm foamboard I can cope with and concur with your comment on woodworking skills. However hard I try with squares, G clamps etc, I can never get 2x1 sawn, drilled and screwed square. I made an error with foamboard - used for a high level road, I glued wet and dry for the road surface with Bostik All Purpose, the solvent permeated the card layer and dissolved the polystyrene core, hence the road developed bubbles and sags. PVA next time! That T9 looks good too, in case you wanted something a bit different I think the preceeding Drummond 4-4-0 - LSWR C8 - had a shorter coupled wheelbase. Thankfully making those baseboards isn't rocket surgery I might have to take a look at the C8 then 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sophia NSE said: Did they ever bother to change them to the correct size with the newer models? Yes, they did* though I'm not sure it really made them look that much better as the splashers had been designed round the old wheels and, as I mentioned, they'd stretched the wheelbase anyway. driving wheels coupled wheelbase real M7 5' 7" 7' 6" Triang M7 6' 8' 3" No doubt the 21st Century all-new model is accurate. I've got one I'm going to use for a rough & ready Tilbury Tank. Those had 6' 6" drivers and an 8' 9" wheelbase. Allowing for the effect of the overscale flanges I'd say it was actually closer to that than the intended M7. * revised models made 1985-88. Edited May 23, 2020 by BernardTPM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: Yes, they did* though I'm not sure it really made them look that much better as the splashers had been designed round the old wheels and, as I mentioned, they'd stretched the wheelbase anyway. driving wheels coupled wheelbase real M7 5' 7" 7' 6" Triang M7 6' 8' 3" No doubt the 21st Century all-new model is accurate. I've got one I'm going to use for a rough & ready Tilbury Tank. Those had 6' 6" drivers and an 8' 9" wheelbase. Allowing for the effect of the overscale flanges I'd say it was actually closer to that than the intended M7. * revised models made 1985-88. The Q1 0-4-4 I'm building had 5'6 drivers, which is why I thought the M7 would be good. Instead I had to use a 14xx which only has 5'2 drivers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamsRadial Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I got the 14xx chassis because I wanted to have a go at Chadwick's LSWR 02 tank. I already had a body shell minus a chimney, so when the chassis arrived I checked it over, added a missing coupling, plonked the body shell on and ran it to see what it would pull, sorted out a traction tyre issue, decided it looked silly without a chimney so knocked one up out of some old plastic and now.... I can't bring myself to chop it up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, AdamsRadial said: I got the 14xx chassis because I wanted to have a go at Chadwick's LSWR 02 tank. I already had a body shell minus a chimney, so when the chassis arrived I checked it over, added a missing coupling, plonked the body shell on and ran it to see what it would pull, sorted out a traction tyre issue, decided it looked silly without a chimney so knocked one up out of some old plastic and now.... I can't bring myself to chop it up I, on the other hand, had absolutely no problem chopping it to the point where its genuinely and 0-4-4 and not the 0-4-2-2 that Chadwick uses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamsRadial Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) Why oh why couldn't he have based his chops on Triang Jinties or Princesses? I'm intrigued to see where you go with that T9 project, by the way. Edited May 24, 2020 by AdamsRadial 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 hour ago, AdamsRadial said: Why oh why couldn't he have based his chops on Triang Jinties or Princesses? I'm intrigued to see where you go with that T9 project, by the way. I'm on the lookout for a suitable tender as the few T9s that were allocated to the Eastern Section didn't have the watercart behind them as it made them too long for Kentish turntables 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 24/05/2020 at 13:05, Sophia NSE said: I'm on the lookout for a suitable tender as the few T9s that were allocated to the Eastern Section didn't have the watercart behind them as it made them too long for Kentish turntables I think the T9s swapped with 700s in a complicated roundabout which gave the watercarts to other 4-4-0s, the released 6w tenders to the 700s and the ex 700 tenders to the T9s for Kent, see SEMG -http://www.semgonline.com/steam/700class_01.html So a Hornby 700 tender should be ok. The tender bodies look similar 8w vs 6w except for length, so you might be able to shorten the watercart subject to getting a suitable tender chassis? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said: I think the T9s swapped with 700s in a complicated roundabout which gave the watercarts to other 4-4-0s, the released 6w tenders to the 700s and the ex 700 tenders to the T9s for Kent, see SEMG -http://www.semgonline.com/steam/700class_01.html So a Hornby 700 tender should be ok. The tender bodies look similar 8w vs 6w except for length, so you might be able to shorten the watercart subject to getting a suitable tender chassis? I don't think I could bring myself to ever hack up a model Not a bad idea to find a cheap tender chassis and chop up the watercart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 22/05/2020 at 19:30, Sophia NSE said: If you're an LSWR fan make sure you're sitting down as today's heathenry involves a GBL T9 and an M7 chassis installed backwards SECR meets LSWR on the WKR I know the M7 wheelbase isn't quite right but it doesn't look entirely hideous. The inside of the body needs a little fettling for it to run properly, which can be for another day Cute. I love it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 37 minutes ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Cute. I love it! I might take a little out of the frame and boiler to make it fit the chassis. A T8 and 15/16ths if you will! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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