dpgibbons Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I read that the acid fluxes sold by Carrs and others for brass/nickel silver and for whitemetal soldering are no more than phosphoric acid of various concentrations, plus a surfactant. If that is so, does anyone have a recipe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnforth Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I just use diluted phosphoric acid without any other additives. A litre of 80% from the 'net, dilute to 10% for brass, nickel silver or white metal. enough to last a lifetime. works fine. HTH Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted May 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2020 I have only ever used phosphoric acid - a 500ml glass bottle bought from Boots back in the day they were a proper chemist - reduced/decanted down to about 20%. I believe some reduce it down to up to 10%. Anywhere between seems usable, but of course the bigger reduction the less effective it will be. I still haven’t used up that from Boots, 2.5ltr goes a fair way..... Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michl080 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Same here, 20% works perfect, but the fumes are pretty bad. 10% might be better in this aspect. I have been experimenting with surfactants, but couldn't find anything that improves wetting significantly. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I have reduced some phosphoric acid to about 12.5% using distilled water for use with brass and nickel silver. Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Thanks. I'll start at 20% strength for brass etc and 10% for whitemetal. I've just bought 1L of 95% phosphoric acid for about GBP15 so that will be enough for a lifetime supply of flux with plenty left over for cleaning rust off my RSU baseplate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The best I've ever had has a small amount of blue in it, which settles out over time. Copper phosphate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Sounds right - copper phosphate is a corrosion inhibitor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 23/05/2020 at 10:53, dpgibbons said: Thanks. I'll start at 20% strength for brass etc and 10% for whitemetal. I've just bought 1L of 95% phosphoric acid for about GBP15 so that will be enough for a lifetime supply of flux with plenty left over for cleaning rust off my RSU baseplate. I'd suggest a 12-15% range is about right - 95% phosphoric acid doesn't sound quite right - most lab grade 'conc' is about 85%, and remember the safety rules, gloves (without pinholes), glasses, keep out of reach of childern, and do the dilution in a well ventilated space (like the bottom of the garden) and add acid to water - conc phosphoric acid isn't very nice stuff. Please also label all the bottles correctly and don't re-use food or drink bottles for it. Jon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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