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My planned layout will be terminus to fiddle yard for the heritage section and fiddle yard to fiddle yard for the National Rail section. Being a volunteer guard I am very aware of needing a tail lamp on the last vehicle of my train. In the past I used to have a tail lamp on all brake vans and did not worry about sometimes having a lamp in the middle of a train but that would worry me a lot now.

 

Does anyone have any clever ideas on how to have them only on the last vehicle? How do you attach and detach them easily? The same question applies to lamps on the front of the train. This mainly going to affect the heritage section as most of the National Rail services will be DMUs which have lights that work automatically although the freight trains will need some looking at.

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I should have mentioned that I am not bothered about having the lamps working as unless a line has a tunnel during daylight hours you can run with the tail lamp in position but not lit.

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Hello Chris

 

Hope you are well.

 

I use Springside lamps. I drill a small hole in the base (with difficulty, in a vice, but if I can do it so can you:))

 

On the coaches, I drill a small hole in the relevant position. I insert and glue into this a Peco track pin which has already been bent into an L shape. Using a pair of long arm tweezers, it is fairly easy to drop the lamp on 'the bracket'.

 

Not 'prototypical' up close, but fine from 'normal viewing distance'.

 

Brian

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Hello again Chris

 

Sorry, I should have said that I drill small holes in locos (front and rear) and employ the same track pin and lamp method.

 

Brian

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Hi Chris. I have found that a cut down staple makes a good lamp fitting.

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One suggestion I've seen is to use tiny neodymium magnets - you can get them right down to 1mm cube. Drill a small hole in the back of the lamp and glue in one magnet, then have either a second one or a steel staple on the coach as a lamp bracket.

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Modelu, also do a good selection of loco, side and tail lamps. Side lamps are required on goods brake vans, thus showing 3 reds to the rear, except when stationary or running on multiple tracks. The side lamp adjacent to another running line has the lamp reversed to show a white light, so that a passing or overtaking train realises that it's not about to run into the back of a goods train.

 

Sorry no link to the Modelu site.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

Best lamps on the market are the Lanarkshire Model Supplies ones IMHO.

 

http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/index.html

 

 

 

Jason

 

They look excellent,  are the spring side ones over scale.  They always look big to me

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1 hour ago, Siberian Snooper said:

Modelu, also do a good selection of loco, side and tail lamps. Side lamps are required on goods brake vans, thus showing 3 reds to the rear, except when stationary or running on multiple tracks. The side lamp adjacent to another running line has the lamp reversed to show a white light, so that a passing or overtaking train realises that it's not about to run into the back of a goods train.

 

Sorry no link to the Modelu site.

 

 

Close, Siberian, but no toffee apple.  The side lamps showed white to the front at all times in normal running; I'll return to the situation when they didn't in a minute.  The rear lenses had red shades that slid in from the top which could be removed to show white light to the rear.  This was used when the train was 'put inside' on a refuge siding or passing loop, or standing on a reception or departure road, or running on a slow/local/relief line, where it might be passed in the same direction as another train on a faster line.  The shade was removed from the side lamp nearest to this running line, but the lamp was not reversed.

 

The shades could be removed from both side lamps to indicate a brake van or train being propelled on the right line, and in this case the loco shows a red tail lamp.  The purpose of the white light shown to the front was so that the loco crew could ascertain that the train was complete and all was well with the guard.

 

If, however, something was amiss that the guard was aware of but the loco crew not, he could reverse the side lamps to show red forward, but they still showed the normal lights to the rear.  If the loco crew saw this they would stop and the train would be examined, ditto if a train passing in the opposite direction stopped and reported to the next signalman/telephone, or if a signalman saw it, or in fact if any railwayman saw it.

 

Modelu lamps are excellent, and come with a slot in the bottom to fit on to a bracket (I use no.15 Rexel staples), but are a little delicate for constant handling, so I am, for now, using Springsides with holes drilled in the bottoms, sides for van side lamps.  I prefer the Modelus though, and am going to experiment with ways of toughening them up with varnish; the handles are very fragile.  They will tear through the bottom slot if you force them on to scale Bachmann lamp brackets.  This is not in any way a criticism of a first class product; they are perfect for posing on permanently fixed rakes of locos and trains, but on my BLT they have to be changed to the other end of the loco or set or brake van and even with careful handling don't seem to last more than about 3 months.

 

Lanarkshire are no doubt excellent as well; they look superb in the photos, but they don't do GW/WR.

 

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2 hours ago, russ p said:

 

They look excellent,  are the spring side ones over scale.  They always look big to me

 

I believe they are overscale.

 

However many lamp irons are also overscale. Both RTR and after market parts such as the Mainly Trains etches. I still use them though, especially for the odd shape ones like GWR.

 

https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/mt187/

 

 

 

Jason

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I use Springside lamps (yes, they look over scale, but the handles are flimsy enough as it is), with a tiny blob of Tacky Wax to fix them in place. Works quite well.

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