Neilgue Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Wow, what a difference a lick of paint makes. The land of chocolate! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 30, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Neilgue said: Wow, what a difference a lick of paint makes. The land of chocolate! An appropriate comment Neil, as the paint is a (no longer available) Matt emulsion called "Choc Chip" 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Physicsman said: An appropriate comment Neil, as the paint is a (no longer available) Matt emulsion called "Choc Chip" What a transformation, really great. I also paint my scenic plaster land form brown but others I know paint their's green - please discuss fellow followers :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Physicsman said: An appropriate comment Neil, as the paint is a (no longer available) Matt emulsion called "Choc Chip" What a transformation, really great. I also paint my scenic plaster land form brown but others I know paint their's green - please discuss fellow followers :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Physicsman said: An appropriate comment Neil, as the paint is a (no longer available) Matt emulsion called "Choc Chip" What a transformation, really great. I also paint my scenic plaster land form brown but others I know paint their's green - please discuss fellow followers :-) Regards Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 30, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Brian D said: What a transformation, really great. I also paint my scenic plaster land form brown but others I know paint their's green - please discuss fellow followers :-) Regards Brian. I wonder if you were trying to make a point, Brian - that last post came through 3 times. Funny thing about a base coat onto plaster. In my "early days" of modelling I worried and worried about getting the right colour. Then I realised that it didn't really matter as over 95% of it was subsequently covered in base flock, static grasses, rocks and vegetation. Jeff 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Brian D said: What a transformation, really great. I also paint my scenic plaster land form brown but others I know paint their's green - please discuss fellow followers :-) Regards Brian. In my limited experience brown definitely works better. Any light from residual areas offsets rather than reinforces the green, that is unless you're modelling an Irish or NZ location! First time round I used green and quickly scraped it off and redid the job with an earthy brown mix. Don't ask the shade as I had some old pots of exterior house paint and blended a rather reddish brown with something more Mission brown in shade, trying not to overly mix them to get some variation. Neat thing with using the mica filled exterior paints which they sell here is they're acrylic, very thick stuff indeed. Must be the climate? (Melbourne, VIC) works particularly well for upland areas as per in my Quantocks setting on here. Colin Edited May 1, 2021 by BWsTrains 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Physicsman said: An appropriate comment Neil, as the paint is a (no longer available) Matt emulsion called "Choc Chip" That's cos I ate it all. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Andrew P said: That's cos I ate it all. The previous layout used a B&Q paint called "Chocolate Torte", an effective brown background that looked good in landslide areas. No longer available... Andy, you have a lot to answer for! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Presumably there was a warning on the paint tins, "Not for human consumption", which Andy ignored... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2021 More chocolate paint here: https://www.wilko.com/en-uk/wilko-walls-ceilings-choc-dream-matt-emulsion-paint-25l/p/0220144 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Presumably there was a warning on the paint tins, "Not for human consumption", which Andy ignored... All depends on how you define 'human' 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Physicsman said: I wonder if you were trying to make a point, Brian - that last post came through 3 times. Jeff Hmmm, very strange. Certainly didn't post it three times. I did send it from my Android phone though, not from the usual Windows laptop or Chromebook. I still don't fully understand why different "devices" behave differently. No axe to grind about the land form colour, just curious. Regards, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 That's ok, Brian. I was just amused that someone loved my thread so much they sent a message 3 times.... Brown rules! Jeff 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Physicsman said: That's ok, Brian. I was just amused that someone loved my thread so much they sent a message 3 times.... Brown rules! Jeff Recovering from a bowel operation, I wish it didn't. Sorry too much information. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 A bit more brown.... The final reverse curve cutting piece which was kept apart to allow ballasting access has now been fixed in place, joined to its neighbour and painted. The cess adjacent to the reverse curve has been cleaned and re-grimed by brush painting, rather than by spraying. As the last photo shows, the enamel grime is still wet and the Bunker stinks. I may put some flock onto the cutting tomorrow... Jeff 14 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted May 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 Saltley Firing Days, has a wonderful account of trips on the footplate over the Settle and Carlise including one in a thunderstorm on a Black 5 I think it was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, John Besley said: Saltley Firing Days, has a wonderful account of trips on the footplate over the Settle and Carlise including one in a thunderstorm on a Black 5 I think it was ....And that was when the weather on the S&C was good.... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambiedg Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 So we are going green then? I’m looking forward to seeing that, Jeff 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, lambiedg said: So we are going green then? I’m looking forward to seeing that, Jeff Evening David. What I'm about to put on is just a base coat to cover the brown paint and make things look a little more natural. A lot of the flock will end up being covered with static grass, though inclined cuttings tend to retain a greater amount of bare earth than will be the case in the valley. Have a look at the transformation that took place on Kirkby Luneside on August 22, 2016 - page 116 of the thread. I'll post a link when I swap from my tablet to my laptop. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/94282-kirkby-luneside/page/116/ Jeff Edited May 1, 2021 by Physicsman Adding link 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 1, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2021 Tied-in with the pics in my post, above, here are 3 pics of the prototype showing the cutting angle and vegetation levels that prevail on the south side of Arten Gill viaduct. I won't be producing anything quite so luxuriant. Must be all that sheep poo!! Jeff 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted May 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2021 I wish you'd stop mentioning brown and poo!!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 2, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rowsley17D said: I wish you'd stop mentioning brown and poo!!! Just a passing phase - there'll be less of it when some turf is laid. Makes a change from pages of grey! I hope you are recovering well. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadRinger Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 The size of the spoil tips intrigue me. They look larger than the size of the cutting. But then as any one who has dug a large hole knows the dirt that comes out takes up more room than the size of the hole. DeadRinger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Physicsman Posted May 2, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) Please see post on following page (May 4, about 19.30) for similar pics in more "correct" colours... Aside from wiring up a dozen pairs of rail droppers, ready to connect all the track laid in the last month to the track bus, I've been playing with PVA and flock. I refer anyone interested in more detail than I'll give here to look at the KL2 thread, starting around here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/94282-kirkby-luneside/page/116/ Prior to 2010 I would have applied a base covering of "grass" flock, as today, then put a top covering onto that and that would have been the extent of the vegetation - other than some trees, bushes etc. Things have certainly changed, and after the brown paint to seal the plaster surface, and provide an underbase colour, the next stage is some grass flock - as a second underbase. I'm sure most readers of this thread will be VERY familiar with scenic procedures, so I'm not going to insult your intelligence. A brief resume of today's scenic work is as follows.... Pic 1: Cutting surfaces covered in neat PVA and base covering of flock applied in very generous amounts. I use a tea stainer to sprinkle the flock onto the PVA and lightly tamp down the flock with my fingers to push it into the glue. The mixture is about 4 parts WS "Earth blend" to 1 part WS "Green blend". This arrangement was left for 4 hours, until the PVA was fully dry. Pics 2-6: After about 4 hours the excess, non-glued flock was hoovered off and, as with the ballasting process, a small cloth was inserted into the cleaner nozzle to reclaim the loose material. A small paint brush, run over the surface, frees any flock that wasn't truly fixed down and in doing so about 50% of the initial material was reclaimed. The surface is now far from the white plaster of 2 days ago and ready for static grass applications at a (much) later date. At least it now gives the impression of a landscape, rather than a snow field! More flocking tomorrow - on part of the valley. Jeff Edited May 4, 2021 by Physicsman Colour "warning" 18 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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