A mythical LNER bogie hopper?

[Florence Locomotive Works]

I was wandering around the Binns Road website the other day and found a picture of this supposedly LNER 40t hopper wagon. Did it actually exist? I ask as I’m thinking of making one out of a Lionel tank wagon. Here’s the link http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/bonds/index.html, it has another not very helpful picture. 

The model was made by Bond’s of Euston Road, who I would have expected to research whatever they decided to model, being such good friends with the prestigious Bassett Lowke company. 

Edited September 9, 2020 by Florence Locomotive Works

[J. S. Bach]

That looks almost like a PRR class H30 hopper. Ditch the buffers and link couplers, replace them with knuckle couplers and replace the archbars with Andrews trucks.

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=prr+h30+hopper&t=ffnt&atb=v170-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.antiquesnavigator.com%2Farchive%2F2015%2F11%2F25%2F121820041803.jpg

[Florence Locomotive Works]

13 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said:

That looks almost like a PRR class H30 hopper. Ditch the buffers and link couplers, replace them with knuckle couplers and replace the archbars with Andrews trucks.

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=prr+h30+hopper&t=ffnt&atb=v170-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.antiquesnavigator.com%2Farchive%2F2015%2F11%2F25%2F121820041803.jpg

I’ve got one of the post war Lionel Lehigh Valley hoppers, looks just a tad longer than this one. I may have a think about switching the wheels out for some spoked ones, (and putting the old wheels in a safe place), instead of wrecking a Sunoco tanker. 

[J. S. Bach]

52 minutes ago, Florence Locomotive Works said:

I’ve got one of the post war Lionel Lehigh Valley hoppers, looks just a tad longer than this one. I may have a think about switching the wheels out for some spoked ones, (and putting the old wheels in a safe place), instead of wrecking a Sunoco tanker. 

The Lionel one is a little under size for American O but might be a good match for the LNER hopper. Please note that the Lionel trucks are a bit wider than scale to accommodate the pizza-cutter flanges, whatever wheelsets you get will need somewhat longer axles. I have had that problem when two-railing a couple of Lionel HOOKER tankers.

[Fat Controller]

There was a prototype for the model; the NER built them for a flow to Blyth Staithes, possibly from Ashington.

[65179]

Information on North Eastern Railway 40T bogie hoppers here:

 

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11736

 

Including a link to a photo of one of the last of the 3(?) batches of hopper built.  

 

Simon

[PenrithBeacon]

31 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

There was a prototype for the model; the NER built them for a flow to Blyth Staithes, possibly from Ashington.

 

28 minutes ago, 65179 said:

Information on North Eastern Railway 40T bogie hoppers here:

 

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11736

 

Including a link to a photo of one of the last of the 3(?) batches of hopper built.  

 

Simon

The photo in the link of the lower post is very different to the model the OP showed

[Wickham Green too]

47 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said:

 

The photo in the link of the lower post is very different to the model the OP showed

The OP's wagon looks far more like the Southern's Ballast Hoppers - are replicated by BR as Sealion & Seacow.

[Darryl Tooley]

There is a photo of NER dia P14 hopper No 100011 as built in An Illustrated History of LNER Wagons Volume 2 (Peter Tatlow, 2007).  It can be seen to closely resemble the wagon in the OP's photo, except for plate frame bogies, a rather shallower solebar, and extra platework partially infilling the area below the diagonals at the sides.

 

The lettering on the OP's wagon is LNER era, and the colour is presumably correct; these wagons were AVB fitted, at least when new.

 

Tatlow tells us that these wagons were sold for colliery use in the 40s, where they survived till the mid 60s.

 

D