Riccarton Junction Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Got myself a used (but mint i.e. never out of the box) Park Royal - it's the one with the Kilmarnock/Dalmellington destination plates. It looks fantastic but I am extremely nervous about getting the body off to plug in the chip. The actual plugging in off the 21 pin decoder looks easy, it's getting the body off which is bringing me out in a cold sweat - the unit looks so delicate. The instructions in the box say I have to remove the handrails on the door as these connect to the body - that's fine. Problem is the instructions give no clue whatsoever as to how you actually get the body apart - one picture they are showing you removing the handrails, the next the body is off! I can't see any screws anywhere so I'm assuming it's either just held on by gravity or there are small clips. Either way could someone perhaps explain to me (an absolute novice i.e. never taken a train apart before) how, in idiot proof steps, I get the body off? Cheers, PaulC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Might help but the steps and gubbins had already been removed so the first part of your question remains unanswered for now! I found this when I was looking at what I will need to do when I get round to chipping my Park Royal. Looks a bit of a faff to be honest. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Cheers, that's extremely helpful. Doesn't look that bad - really just needed to know where to stick in some plastic card/wedges. I'll give it a go later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 Why do people try to make helpful videos - as this undoubtedly is - while holding the camera, which is presumably a phone, in the other hand? Use of a camera on a small tripod - and there are adapters that mean you can mount a phone securely on a tripod - would enable use of both hands and a much more dextrous performance of these delicate tasks. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Actually managed to get the body off very easily once the 4 clips were held off the chassis. A spot of gentle leverage with a small flat headed screwdriver soon prised the body loose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Removed the blanking chip and am now waiting for its 21 pin chip to arrive. In the meantime I think I may have pulled out something I shouldn't have. Can someone take a look at the attached image. Watching the above video I'm assuming that the thing circled in blue has popped out of one of the 2 empty sockets i.e. the one with the yellow circle or the one with the blue circle. Can someone advise where it should go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted October 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Riccarton Junction said: Removed the blanking chip and am now waiting for its 21 pin chip to arrive. In the meantime I think I may have pulled out something I shouldn't have. Can someone take a look at the attached image. Watching the above video I'm assuming that the thing circled in blue has popped out of one of the 2 empty sockets i.e. the one with the yellow circle or the one with the blue circle. Can someone advise where it should go? Assuming the PCB is common to all the Heljan Railbuses ( I can't see any reason why not) then the yellow CH1 will be the connection. Izzy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Izzy said: Assuming the PCB is common to all the Heljan Railbuses ( I can't see any reason why not) then the yellow CH1 will be the connection. Cheers, @Izzy That would have been my guess but didn't want to guess in case it risked frying the chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Riccarton Junction said: Cheers, @Izzy That would have been my guess but didn't want to guess in case it risked frying the chip. I hope so too. My advice was based around the experience with my W&M railbus. Here is a shot of the PCB sans any decoder. looking at the posted video from what I can make out it is the same. You might logically expect that the railbus basic designs would be the same. As such it should be easy, should you wish, to hike off the top and tart up the interior, add driver/s, passengers etc. The wiring isn't touched doing this, it all funnels down one side. It does get a bit more complicated if you strip down any further - I had mine completely to bits to make other alterations. A re-wire so lights only work depending on direction ( not the interior ones) and just one tail light is lit. I like playing around.... This is how a Zimo MX644D with leads for speaker and stay-alive fits. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 22 hours ago, Riccarton Junction said: Got myself a used (but mint i.e. never out of the box) Park Royal - it's the one with the Kilmarnock/Dalmellington destination plates. It looks fantastic but I am extremely nervous about getting the body off to plug in the chip. The actual plugging in off the 21 pin decoder looks easy, it's getting the body off which is bringing me out in a cold sweat - the unit looks so delicate. The instructions in the box say I have to remove the handrails on the door as these connect to the body - that's fine. Problem is the instructions give no clue whatsoever as to how you actually get the body apart - one picture they are showing you removing the handrails, the next the body is off! I can't see any screws anywhere so I'm assuming it's either just held on by gravity or there are small clips. Either way could someone perhaps explain to me (an absolute novice i.e. never taken a train apart before) how, in idiot proof steps, I get the body off? Cheers, PaulC. Glad the wee bus arrived safely, Paul And given your user name aboard the good ship RMWeb, it seems you could be a Waverley route acolyte too! Good luck chipping the bus. Cheers 'Chard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: And given your user name aboard the good ship RMWeb, it seems you could be a Waverley route acolyte too! Aye, Riccarton Junction has always been a fascination of mine. A totally isolated community (down a forest track) where the only way in or out was by train (other than a hike along the track) i.e. somewhere which existed only to serve the railway, specifically the junction between the Waverly and the Borders Counties. I live about an hour north and was down at Whitrope Siddings a few weeks ago - closed, but I had a look around anyway. Modelling Riccarton would be a long term ambition. One step at a time. ...and yes, the Railbus did arrive and is now chipped and working a treat (lights are superb) - wasn't actually too hard getting the lid off. Extra special to have the Killie-Dalmellington plates which is of course where the old Park Royal used to work before ending up rusting in Strathspey. BTW thanks @Izzyfor the tip about the 21 pin Zimo, MX638D - did the job perfectly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, Izzy said: As such it should be easy, should you wish, to hike off the top and tart up the interior, add driver/s, passengers etc. The wiring isn't touched doing this, it all funnels down one side. Aye, sent off for a bag of 20 seated figures and so will keep the lid off until they arrive and fit a few in. Not sure if I should paint the seats. Haven't yet seen a colour image of the interior - will need to seek one out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cessna152towser Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) So glad to have found this thread. The Heljan Park Royal Railbus SC79974 with the Kilmarnock and Dalmellington destinations was on my must have list since it was first announced, as my mother was from Kilmarnock and we often saw the real railbus while it was in service, but I hadn't been aware that Heljan had eventually got around to releasing this version. Olivia's Trains had three left in stock and one of those is now on its way to Hawick where it will be very much at home on my small fiddle yard to branch terminus layout. I've done some "meet and greet" volunteering at Whitrope Sidings in past years and hope to get involved again next summer if the Covid subsides. Edited October 29, 2020 by cessna152towser 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Junction Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, cessna152towser said: The Heljan Park Royal Railbus SC79974 with the Kilmarnock and Dalmellington destinations was on my must have list since it was first announced, as my mother was from Kilmarnock and we often saw the real railbus while it was in service Looking on Google, the line could easily be restored to Dalmellington. Track still in place all the way to Waterside, and only the last couple of miles down to Dalmellington is bare trackbed. Unlikely, but you never know. Edited October 29, 2020 by Riccarton Junction typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Riccarton Junction said: Aye, sent off for a bag of 20 seated figures and so will keep the lid off until they arrive and fit a few in. Not sure if I should paint the seats. Haven't yet seen a colour image of the interior - will need to seek one out. Visit railcar.co.uk for details of all first gen DMU's/railbuses etc. Plently of interior views as well as colour info. Izzy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cessna152towser Posted October 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 29/10/2020 at 18:54, Riccarton Junction said: Looking on Google, the line could easily be restored to Dalmellington. Track still in place all the way to Waterside, and only the last couple of miles down to Dalmellington is bare trackbed. Unlikely, but you never know. The line to Waterside was still open until a few years ago for open cast coal traffic. I never travelled to Dalmellington while the regular passenger service was still in operation but I've travelled that line as far as Waterside on railtours four times. Three times on DMUs and the most recent was early in the new millenium on the Riviera Trains Mark 1 stock with class 37s top and tail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cessna152towser Posted December 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Post removed - placed in wrong thread. Edited December 8, 2020 by cessna152towser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Would anyone know where I'm likely to find a set of instructions from? I have just bought a second hand one, but it didn't come with any instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 You have a PM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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