RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2015 Handsome job on that Nelson. I would be pleased to hear a blow by blow of the DCC fitting if you have the time. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I'll try to take photos with the next one - I still have a Southern malachite LN to do, one I renumbered and renamed to 850, Lord Nelson, himself. That means I can run it as a preserved example too. Edited January 5, 2015 by SRman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I converted the second LN, no 850, Lord Nelson, and took photos this time. The step by step guide can be seen in my workbench blog here : http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/965/entry-15387-dcc-decoder-fitting-for-a-Bachmann-lord-nelson-split-chassis/. Edited January 5, 2015 by SRman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Jeff, Nice job. Is your link OK as I get this message "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" ? I hope its not secret Blackburn stuff Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) "Falcon Junction" 2 miles 66 chains from Victoria, is an actual junction; a physical divergence of tracks, where the Up and Down Brighton Slow part company with the Up and Down West London serving, respectively, platforms 14 and 15, 16 and 17. Pig Hill Sidings lie outside Victoria signalling centre (located at Clapham Junction) 0 miles 26 chains east of Falcon Junction the other end of the station. "Clapham Junction" is the name of the station itself and as for not being much of a junction there is the ladder which permits moves from the Up Waterloo fast (platform loop), all the sidings and Windsor Lines to the Latchmere Reversible and the West London Line in addition to numerous individual crossovers. Interesting moves which are possible include Up Waterloo Fast to Victoria (via the Up Platform Loop, yard ladder, Up Ludgate, Longhedge Junction and the Battersea Reversible), up and down Windsor Fast Lines to Victoria via Ludgate Junction, Up or Down Ludgate, Longhedge Junction and the Battersea Reversible, and all up and down Brighton lines to and from Waterloo (via Pouparts Junction and the ladder crossovers there). Not much of a junction then Edited January 5, 2015 by Gwiwer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Jeff, Nice job. Is your link OK as I get this message "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" ? I hope its not secret Blackburn stuff Peter Hi Peter. Sorry, you were too quick. I posted the link before I had finished the blog entry. It should be up and working now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 No worries Jeff, glad it was that easy. Looking at your method, reminds me how quite a few years ago I converted all my Mainline locos (4x Standard Class 4's, 2 x Rebuilt Scots and a couple of others) and the only decoders that I could get then were Digitrax Z series to fit. Seeing your post reminded me, that now added to the list of things to do is upgrade those locos. Standard Class 4's are a favourite (not because they were built at Brighton in the early 50's, well, I am an LMS/BR person ) but because my steamer is one (3/12 gauge) Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 Huge thanks to SR man for the blow by blow account. Takes all the 'fear' out of deconstruction, fitting a few wires and then reconstruction, something that I have yet to do on any loco! P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I just spent most of the afternoon doing a little track laying, made easier because I have been able to clear most of the stock off the upper level since buying the extra Ikea Alex unit. There is now a continuous flow from the fiddle yard right around the curve at the right-hand end of the layout. The class 166 driving coaches are my spacing gauges - they are the widest and longest items of stock I possess, so are the ones I use to test clearances. I also cut away a little of the church hill to allow for the future level crossing.The curves look tight but are actually not too bad, being roughly equivalent to the set track 3rd and 4th radii or slightly larger. Edited January 9, 2015 by SRman 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2015 That looks like several positive steps forward Jeff. Those curves don't look so bad either. I don't have a 466 (though toyed with the idea briefly) so my gauging is done using Heljan's Cargowaggons for length and overhang and Dapol's silver bullets which have ladders suspiciously wide to gauge when it comes to platform clearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Looking goods Jeff. You will need a bigger fiddleyard though. lol Cheers Peter, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 The Cargowaggons come into their own when testing clearances with lineside objects. I can't use the silver bullets any more for this since I narrowed their ladder overhangs slightly, by around a millimetre on each side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2015 I narrowed their ladder overhangs slightly, by around a millimetre on each side. I found it necessary to do the same in order to avoid a complete platform rebuild. But they are still wider than most other items overall. Class 170 / 171 door steps are also wide but are also higher than platform surfaces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Class 170 / 171 door steps are also wide but are also higher than platform surfaces. Yes, I found that out on the old layout. Set all the clearances with mark 3 coaches and the 166 unit, then ran the 170 into the platform where it promptly 'beached' on the platform edges! I had to modify the platforms in a few places to clear those steps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2015 My Southern 171 has very slightly shaved steps though the SWT 170 seems to be OK. I believe the 12" : 1' scale railway encountered similar problems when they introduced wide-waist rolling stock with doors / steps at the ⅓ and ⅔ positions instead of the end corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted January 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hi Jeff, I see a ballast spreader on the track in the first pic. Are you using it and if so what are the results? Any good? Santa got me one and I am not sure whether to use it. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hi Peter. I was going to comment on the ballast spreader in the pic, but forgot about it! It is a Proses one I bought to try after I had completed most of the lower level ballasting, so it hasn't actually been used yet. I do intend trialling it on the upper level once I have adjusted and bedded in the tracks. I always run for some time with no ballast until I am sure everything runs properly. I will certainly report back on its success or otherwise, once I have tried it out. That may be some months away, yet, considering my slow progress on the upper level. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Illustrating what I said before about the radii, I have posed a piece of set track 3rd radius track beside my freshly laid curves and you can see that mine are not quite to commercial radii but are somewhere between 3rd and 4th radius (inner) and 4th and 5th radius (outer), being a little closer to the second figure for each.I also allow a little extra room for clearances between the tracks but close the spacing up a little along the straight or very gently curved stretches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2015 That looks good Jeff and I can't see you having a problem there. The 2Bil /Hal units resent a really tight radius but go around anything from second. I also find that using transition radii means the point of smallest radius can be close to first but everything goes around because it has a chance to ease in and out of the curve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 "Falcon Junction" 2 miles 66 chains from Victoria, is an actual junction; a physical divergence of tracks, where the Up and Down Brighton Slow part company with the Up and Down West London serving, respectively, platforms 14 and 15, 16 and 17. Pig Hill Sidings lie outside Victoria signalling centre (located at Clapham Junction) 0 miles 26 chains east of Falcon Junction the other end of the station. "Clapham Junction" is the name of the station itself and as for not being much of a junction there is the ladder which permits moves from the Up Waterloo fast (platform loop), all the sidings and Windsor Lines to the Latchmere Reversible and the West London Line in addition to numerous individual crossovers. Interesting moves which are possible include Up Waterloo Fast to Victoria (via the Up Platform Loop, yard ladder, Up Ludgate, Longhedge Junction and the Battersea Reversible), up and down Windsor Fast Lines to Victoria via Ludgate Junction, Up or Down Ludgate, Longhedge Junction and the Battersea Reversible, and all up and down Brighton lines to and from Waterloo (via Pouparts Junction and the ladder crossovers there). Not much of a junction then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4ZFi3Pcyy4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 That looks like several positive steps forward Jeff. Those curves don't look so bad either. I don't have a 466 (though toyed with the idea briefly) so my gauging is done using Heljan's Cargowaggons for length and overhang and Dapol's silver bullets which have ladders suspiciously wide to gauge when it comes to platform clearances. I thought it was only, me, who had that .......gauging hiccup.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Lovely bit of footage there, David. Lots of 4 SUBs and the odd 4 COR/RES. It also illustrates how much more visible the trains are even with just the small yellow panels.Now, if only we had a time machine and a decent video camera to take back with us ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) While I was waiting for some downloads and updates to complete on the train room computer (it's an old Pentium D one cobbled together from left-over bits after upgrading the good desktops), I cut some thin card to form a template for the level crossing. This will be refined a bit before finalising it. Edited January 11, 2015 by SRman 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) I was planning to use the old fashioned style of gates on the level crossing, at least initially, with the possibility of leaving them as plug-in units so I could swap later to more modern image barriers, depending on what era I choose to run.I do have some Peco gates, and the old Airfix level crossing kit had some half decent gates as well (now in the Dapol range).In the meantime, I have been active again this afternoon, laying a little more third and fourth rail, with the usual swearing as chairs pinged off repeatedly into the distance! This is filling in a gap that I had previously left, between the tunnel mouth and the crossover on the inner track. I am trialling some code 55 rail with this lot.I still have to add a ramp on the third rail ending just before the point at the crossover. Edited January 11, 2015 by SRman 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Looking really good David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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