Michael Delamar Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Bankhall diesel by stephenwolstenholme.t21, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 11, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2012 Michael, the photos in your last post are superb. The black and white suits the grimy nature of the yard to a tee. Either you must be a historical archivist or a persistent searcher to dig out all these photos. I've spent a bit of time on flickr now and can see it's a real treasure-trove. Many thanks. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Many years since these turned a wheel, the price on the box gives a clue, and two pictures below of Springs Branch coal trippers. 47322 dropping down to Padiham from Rose Grove in July 1980 40156 near Bolton with 9T95 Bickershaw to Agecroft inJune 1979. Tom 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 08509 Chesterfield by Philandthehounds, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 R0372 - Wakefield Kirkgate by BarkingBill, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Avenue afternoon by Auchlander, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Stainforth by Auchlander, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Brora 1 by Auchlander, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted May 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2012 Barking Bill's photo of the WD at Wakefield is amazing. Don't recall seeing many clean ones in service, let alone in 1965!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Nice 'Big A' in the Brora shot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 A couple of pics taken at Hooton from the box in about 1980 Taken mainly because of the wooden bodied wagons, but showing also a mineral wagon and an iron ore wagon in PWay use without holes cut in the sides. Incidentally, the siding the wagons are standing on and the one in front of it were constructed from LNWR materials. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Bit of a modeller's train that Keith - one of everything AFAIK it was only the ZHV minerals that had the slots cut in, not the ZHOs; not sure why, unless it was something to do with the slightly higher speed possible with the fitted wagons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 the Brora one, Im probably being thick, but it looks grey and fitted? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) the Brora one, Im probably being thick, but it looks grey and fitted? Definitely fitted, look carefully - it's got a vac pipe, and a lamp iron showing up rather well because it's painted white. Edited May 12, 2012 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yes, it is fitted, but not grey - it would be rather dark if it were - but appears so probably because of the rather blue cast to the picture and the greyness of the daylight on the day in question. As Pennine notes too, nice Atki' tipper on the left. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Not thick Mike, there's a slim chance you have something very unusual. It's definitely fitted, it has a vac pipe. The most likely explanation would just be that it looks dusty, but enlarging the shot, there do appear to be areas of light grey patch painting on the end - look particularly at the 'grid' pattern on the LH panel. I've always understood that the far North went fully fitted in 1977, at the same time as the Southern, yet on the cover of a book I have (Tom Noble's Diesels on the Regions, ScR), there is another shot, also very coincidentally taken at Brora, of a 26 with a 16 tonner that is even more clearly grey. That one is dated March '83, which is very late for any unfitted 16 tonner to be away from the areas in which they were concentrated at the end. Not impossible for it to have strayed of course, if it turned up at Inverness then no doubt it would have been sent on, possibly under some local authority or on the basis of 'we've dealt with these bl**dy things for long enough, we do know what to do with them'. I'm far from convinced, but open minded - it's just possible that a few of these wagons were vac fitted at a very late date without being repainted, in the same way as many 21T hoppers were, but definitive evidence is going to be very elusive, methinks. Edited May 13, 2012 by Pennine MC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'd say the 16-tonner at Brora is bauxite, but with that odd blue-ish tint that some picked up over time. I don't recollect seeing any ex-Iron Ore Tipplers with letter-boxes cut in the sides; their 26t/27t capacity was sufficent for a good load of spoil. There were some with large chunks cut out of the outer panels, but these were used for revenue traffic (ingot moulds from BSC Landore post 1973). The slots in the 16-tonner sides were because of the lower capacity/volume ratio- it followed incidents with broken springs, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 this one has spoked wheels. Hest Bank by cabsaab900, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'd say the 16-tonner at Brora is bauxite, but with that odd blue-ish tint that some picked up over time. I don't recollect seeing any ex-Iron Ore Tipplers with letter-boxes cut in the sides; their 26t/27t capacity was sufficent for a good load of spoil. There were some with large chunks cut out of the outer panels, but these were used for revenue traffic (ingot moulds from BSC Landore post 1973). The slots in the 16-tonner sides were because of the lower capacity/volume ratio- it followed incidents with broken springs, I believe. Having looked at Borra photo I think it has grey on it. As does this http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralclaspvb/eed8989d a clasp braked mineral. Not much paint remains, but the area over the end door has grey paint. It should be recollected that BR used the 'other' wagon paint colour as undercoat - they used freight stock grey underneath Freight Stock Red and FSR underneat FSG. It was much later that colours such as green were being used for undercoating. Paul Bartlett PS Ingot mould with holes cut in side http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brironoretipplerunfit/e616bde5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 A single 16t used to carry the side rods of a jackshaft 350. 02004 shunting at Parkside colliery when on loan to the NCB. Bickershaw collliery's Hurricane, March 1974. And not too forget the C&W lads that worked with them. not much details but its numbered DB..... Tom. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 D7651/D7540 Rose Grove 20.6.67 by George of Dufton, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) I wish my Bachmann 25 looked like those above.. c.1968 - Padiham, near Burnley. by 53A Models, on Flickr Edited December 15, 2012 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright dispute. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 Dinting derailment site June 1981 by Graham Knott, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 BR shunter 08 296 at Allerton depot in 1979 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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