Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 its come from Fazakerley concrete sleeper depot so id imagine its scrap/rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Might it be scrap from Metal Box- I have an inkling those vans are Shocvans, so perhaps the trip started from Metal Box, Aintree. The vans would be for Trostre, the 16-tonners for Bachelor-Robinson's works in Llanelli, which removed the tin, then sent the baled scrap to BSC Landore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm surprised there's not been more appreciation of the Edgeley shot, I think it's a cracker with the way it contrasts the old and new orders so graphically. On a detail point, the 16 tonner at left shows evidence of a stanchion repair, which wasn't uncommon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 the Edgeley shot is an instant favourite, sometimes ill just post the picture/link with no comment as the picture says it all. the class 40 shot is definatley heading from Fazakerley unless its in the middle of reversing or shunting, Metal box is away to the left. it could also have been from the signal works in Fazakerley which shut around that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 another Stockport one Stockport Edgeley MPD 24 February 1968 by 4buttongnome, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ...sometimes ... the picture says it all. In that case, it sure does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Ivatt 41234 shunts a rusty 16 tonner at Amlwch 27th August 1963 http://plumbloco.smugmug.com/Trains/Former-LMS-Lines/21337479_kMkRcw#!i=1699426881&k=8BfvK7R&lb=1&s=A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'm surprised there's not been more appreciation of the Edgeley shot... Give us a chance, it was only posted yesterday! A few things stand out - I could mention the knackered state of the mineral but in this thread that's becoming a bit 'stating the obvious'. It's an interesting mottling effect though, one of those ones where if you saw it modelled you'd think it was a bad weathering job, like the internal users that Keith posted on the previous page (post #491 - the first photo in particular looks like an utterly unrealistic piece of slap-it-on weathering). Shame it's not in colour so we could get an idea of the colours involved. The state of the siding it's sitting in is also worthy of note. What I also noticed was the slightly odd way the overhead catenary supports just sort of stop without an upright supporting them. All interesting details. For details however, that Aintree Sefton Junction shot takes some beating.The signal with tension wire coming off it, the point/signal rodding, the scrubby waste ground, the wire fence with Y section at the top, 20mph sign with arrow to indicate which bit it's referring to, the shunting signal on the bottom of the signal post... What's the weird blob behind the buffer stop beyond the signal? I think it's a grass mound or something. Note the general rubbish and odd bits and bobs lying around too. Is it an optical illusion or are those smaller signals on the left hand side of the signal post? Definitely a 'the more you look the more you see' kind of shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) For details however, that Aintree Sefton Junction shot takes some beating.The signal with tension wire coming off it, the point/signal rodding, the scrubby waste ground, the wire fence with Y section at the top, 20mph sign with arrow to indicate which bit it's referring to, the shunting signal on the bottom of the signal post... What's the weird blob behind the buffer stop beyond the signal? I think it's a grass mound or something. Note the general rubbish and odd bits and bobs lying around too. Is it an optical illusion or are those smaller signals on the left hand side of the signal post? Definitely a 'the more you look the more you see' kind of shot. the land to the right with the trailers parked was the new Aintree container base which was large but only took up a small part of the original Aintree marshalling yard. those signals are on the side main post, the one's heading towards Fazakerley have been removed, the line was also singled by this time (c1970) which makes it look like the 40 is running worng road. cant see anything behind the buffer stop, the pile of land behind it is from the shed area and could be the remains of the coaling tower. a shot a few years before.. Aintree Sefton Junction by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr Edited May 23, 2012 by michael delamar 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sorry, I meant in front of the buffer stop - between the buffer stop and the signal. I think it's just a pile of earth that's grassed over or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 think its just a patch of long grass. incidentley that headshunt and the signals on the side of the post are to the English Electric Netherton works where the prototype Deltic was tested on several occasions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Class 50 50026 Newton Abbot 31/3/82 by Stapleton Road, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Class 40 40156 Tinsley 7/4/79 by Stapleton Road, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 very nice PMP, we need more shots of peoples models in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangor Lad Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Couldn't agree more. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 something ive just found out which I never knew about. mentioned on a dvd called the era of blue. ends of brake handles painted white so that if you look along a train of mineral wagons its easy to see if a brake is left on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Not just minerals Mike, it's fairly commonplace on most BR-era wagons. Not sure when it actually started but it may have been a blackout measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 26, 2012 Author Share Posted May 26, 2012 yeah ive probably noticed it before but just never twigged, on the shot of the train in the dvd the camera looked right along the train of fitted wagons that where probably kept in a semi permenant rake. anyway, heres a shot of one with a tarpaulin. have we had any tarpaulined model shots yet? Peterborough by Railway Dave, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) c.1981 - Hillhouse Goods, Huddersfield. by 53A Models, on Flickr Edited December 15, 2012 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright dispute. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 fotopic still isnt back up. Fotopic off the road. by Lostock Hall Jct Roger Sutcliffe, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dilbert Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 ends of brake handles painted white so that if you look along a train of mineral wagons its easy to see if a brake is left on. Not just minerals Mike, it's fairly commonplace on most BR-era wagons. Not sure when it actually started but it may have been a blackout measure. From a timing point of view on the GWR, this practice seems to have started post WWI and pre-grouping and became widespread thru the 1920s-1930s. I haven't found any photos that pre WWI that depict this approach... dilbert 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 27, 2012 Author Share Posted May 27, 2012 Burnley Rose Grove 1st August 1968 by loose_grip_99, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 D6320 Passing Horton Road. by curly42, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 1983 8-25 25069 Findern by The Gang of 3, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Don't think we've had these two before; Neville's Cross cutting (Durham) heading towards Relly Mill Junction. Porcy D68xx Redhills cutting Durham 1968 by George of Dufton, on Flickr D68xx Relly Mill Viaduct 1968 by George of Dufton, on Flickr Edited May 29, 2012 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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