RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 10, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2017 Recent additions to the yellow fleet are some ex. Great Western Motorail vans which I gather were converted GUVs. Some time ago I recall a kit being made, any idea where it can be found please. I think Pete Harvey did a conversion kit for these: Although it is not showing on his website. IIRC, the numbers are 96604-96606 Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) Recent additions to the yellow fleet are some ex. Great Western Motorail vans which I gather were converted GUVs. Some time ago I recall a kit being made, any idea where it can be found please.I thought it was Model rail did them, rare as hens teeth now with no plans of a reissue according to dibber25, I may be wrong though I wouldn't mind a couple of them myself Edited September 10, 2017 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2017 Do you still do them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Yes Jim Email me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 SH109033c.jpg Thank you Pete, contact sent to your site. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun66 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Decided to model the SGT2 with coaches 977986, 977985, 62384 and 9708. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2017 9708 is a generator DBSO, a bit more work than a non genny fitted one but if your using a ph designs kit it's nice and simple (even though I made a mess of mine and did more work than I needed to coz I never read the instructions Pete sent!) The SGT pair is nice and easy to do too 62384 is a very involved coach by the look of it, lots of odd sized windows and a roller shutter in one side As it happens it was my train on Friday night (with an added motorail coach for brake force) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun66 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Thanks for the info. I'm believe Britannia pacific model do 62384 so may cheat and get that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) The NMT project is finally underway. So far, I've paint stripped 6 Mk3s and 3 power cars - I will be doing the full set of NMT vehicles - 975984,977984,975814, 977993, 977994, 977995, 43013, 43014 and 43062. The Mk3s are multicoloured becausee of their varied original paintwork - varying from Virgin Pretendolino livery to Great Western Merlin I have cunning plan for the nose on 43062............. I'm using Hornby Mk3s due to their good availability, but some of them need Roevac air vents instead of the large rectangular plenum chambers. Previously, I have cut out a few Roevacs from spare Airfix Mk2 shells for use on the DBSO/RTOVs, but in this case I've decided to order some 3D printed ones from Shapeways. Although there's 150 in the set, I'll start using them on the next batch of Mk2s I do - which may include a Cumbrian coast DRS set.......... https://www.shapeways.com/product/PPBCLJCX8/roevac-roof-vents-4mm-v1-150-pieces?option=9102267&etId=166374344&utm_source=automated-contact&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=payment-received&utm_content=4 This has coincided with the free shipping deal at Shapeways - valid for the next 3 days. More pics will follow as soon as possible. Cheers, Mick Edited September 21, 2017 by newbryford 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 You've done well there Mick........you lost me at Roevac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Hi Mick I'm looking forward to see what you do for this NMT project. I thought your original one was great. I imagine with more modern tooling and three D printing, this one will be even better. Stephen Edited September 22, 2017 by ayrmrg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 22, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) You've done well there Mick........you lost me at Roevac Hi Adrian, Roevac is a vent on top. They are fitted to quite a lot of stock. The Hornby model is fitted with the large rectangular plenum box. You can see both types of vent here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/58806173@N08/7599678486/in/photolist-czykDq-SNwsMN-q9tb8A-VXeRTt-dT2VWs-WbHnSt-USpvKU-opAwuP-W6iYSN-WzSGmy-ojerxr-ojerwp-e3Cd46-4CTQwJ-paGqrt-ebhmb5-VyKVQh-5Z6wir-hwizKg-Uejjdu-iPwfT2-HPNBft-pbdfKh-fHvTk3-osjLi2-USpvyw-USp3CC-W6iZq1-u2vNbe-rrSqT1-bxcEPR-W6iYzU-r7Puao-r7PsGo-SZGavK-pQCMUD-LCRyDd-dRhLSJ-65eAy9-fEx4tN-dRc4gp-dRhnQ7-dJDsUG-DcM48s-oiikrh-fDACs2-fDTg9W-oFaXN6-p4JKyi-64XDuE There are three Roevac vents on the coach on the left. BTW, the above pic is great for other roof detail. Cheers, Mick Edited September 22, 2017 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 19, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The NMT project is well underway. 977993 and 977994 have identical window layouts. They are ex-TGS vehicles and basically need a half window fitting in place of the last full window (as well as all toilet windows blanked up. One has been done with Pete Harvey etches and the other cut and shut Both have the toilet windows blanked by filling them. The window frame is gently cut away with a sharp (i.e. new) blade The remains are then scraped using the blade on edge Then the window openings are squared off. This makes it easier to fit a blank with squared corners, rather than having to round the corners to fit the hole. This one shows the PH window blank fitted. The toilet window has a rectangle of styrene glued in and filled/sanded. For the other coach, I cut out a toliet window from a damaged Mk3 shell that I had. Cut a similar size hole in the recipient and fit scraps of styrene to mount the window into Fit window and fill Gently file and sand and a quick dusting of primer Just a couple of blemishes to fix More later. Cheers, Mick Edited October 19, 2017 by newbryford 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted October 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2017 Looking forward to seeing the NMT done properly! I've restarted doing mine coaching coach by coach as I've decided to do the interior too and can't get the Lima interior out with the laser glaze fitted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 20, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) More work on 977993. A large hole appears in the roof And a floor for the well Inner sides and ends fitted Cut down and a quick dusting of primer And pretty much ready for the equipment to be fitted. Ihave also cut back the roof ribs away from the well as per prototype In the meantime: 975814 requires a few windows to be blanked - done in the same way with shaving off the frame, "squaring the corners" and fitting a blank Primer highlights the blemishes. They are scraped to give a key to a bit more filler And a final sand down, with primer to check 975814/975985/977984 do not carry the large square chambers - two of them are fitted with the oval shaped Roevac vents (more of those later) The slot in the ribs is for another vent Made from styrene 975814 also appears to be the only NMT coach to be fitted with vertical handrails on the ends. I was considering replacing all the small handrails on the roof panels, but I experimented with one and once painted black/dark grey, the effect is negligible IMO There are quite a few aerials and other bits on the various roofs - they will be added later Cheers, Mick Edited October 20, 2017 by newbryford 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Not really a fan of "Yellow" stock - but some interesting proper modelling work on this thread.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 8, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2017 The two generator coaches 975984 and 977984 have been started. They are both similar in appearance with blanked windows and grilles, but reference to photos is essential to make sure the correct windows are altered. The combined frame and blank is fitted Reinforced behind with epoxy resin Although PHD have tried to make things a bit easier by combining the frame with the blank, it means that the blank section is extremely thin and prone to flexing, hence the epoxy to keep it in place. I think a better approach would have been similar to the 950 conversion with full thickness etched blanks and separate frames. Filler around the edges Although it looks pretty decent From another angle, it doesn't look so good. Unless the blank is dead level with the body or recessed back by the tiniest amount, it means that the brass has to be filed down to be level with the surrounding body. More filing/sanding/filling. Nearly there, but still needs more work. The final two frames have been attached Patience is the key and you'll need plenty of it...... Cheers, Mick 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 Patience, something I don’t have hence why my NMT looks rough close up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm in the middle of 977986 and tedious is one word for it... Ive done one side completely smooth and am putting off the other side by doing the underframe, roof, pickups and coupling before I can be bothered doing the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 9, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm in the middle of 977986 and tedious is one word for it... Ive done one side completely smooth and am putting off the other side by doing the underframe, roof, pickups and coupling before I can be bothered doing the other side TBH, I'd rather do 977986(or 99666) using styrene blanks in preference to the NMT.............. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Out of interest, what would stop you using plasticard right up to the etched frames on the NMT? Here are my efforts. Don't think I'm quite ready for an NMT. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 9, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Out of interest, what would stop you using plasticard right up to the etched frames on the NMT? Here are my efforts. Don't think I'm quite ready for an NMT. IMG_3170.JPG The PHD NMT etches are half-etched one side for the blank and half etch step for the frame. It would be quite difficult to remove the half etch panel from the blank without damaging the frame half. Visible in this pic I'm persevering with them because I don't have many windows to do. Cheers, Mick Cheers, Mick Edited November 9, 2017 by newbryford 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 tbh, i damaged one etch and simply scissored the frame off it and stuck it to the body instead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairnsroadworks Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Mick, are you having a crack at this? https://flic.kr/p/Dgwnr9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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