Arpster Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I've come across this video on YouTube which I thought might be of interest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUFlV7TCUI8 There's a second part too. Some really interesting discussions and behind-the-scenes views of the then-new 225 sets, the problems faced with "the wrong kind of snow", and attitudes of railwaymen towards British Rail management in the run up to privatisation. There's also an interesting segment in the second part with a Class 47-hauled Mk4 set on the Yorkshire Pullman! A very revealing insight into the time and interesting comparison with the current state of the railways. Arp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven156 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 On the second video when the driver reveals what he takes home, it reminds me when I'm at work today talking to some of the long service staff who served under BR how poor the wages were. Staff having to work 7 day weeks to take home a decent amount of pay..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 On the second video when the driver reveals what he takes home, it reminds me when I'm at work today talking to some of the long service staff who served under BR how poor the wages were. Staff having to work 7 day weeks to take home a decent amount of pay..... The pay was not fantastic but at least it was regular! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 brilliant I remember seeing this when it was on telly first time. great to see it again. its funny how so many things are still the same today and in some cases got worse. that uniform was great best we ever had. thanks for shareing this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 An interesting video, rather scary that it was filmed two decades ago. One thing, even though it's a (much missed) IC Pullman, it does show just how downhill on train catering and service has gone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Y99 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Nice to see that staff moral was just as bad as it is now........................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonesome_whistle Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 On the second video when the driver reveals what he takes home, it reminds me when I'm at work today talking to some of the long service staff who served under BR how poor the wages were. Staff having to work 7 day weeks to take home a decent amount of pay..... I don't suppose there'd be quite the number of people applying for trainee driver positions these days had the wages remained the same as they were then. There are people in the job now who wouldn't have dreamed of doing it back in BR days and some of them will never be railwaymen as long as they live. It was better back then but, on balance, I probably wouldn't go back to it if I had to accept the wages that went with the conditions. Amazing how things change over a couple of decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNCF stephen Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 This is a fascinating documentry. Thanks for uploading it. I am always astounded by how much better older documentries are, I mean these days they do an introduction, start, pre adverts cliffhanger, post adverts catchup, cliffhanger resolution, middle, pre adverts cliffhanger, post adverts catchup, cliffhanger resolution, end, conclusion (which is very similar to the introduction)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Quite, the 'cliffhanger' is usually a routine task contrived out of all proportion so as to look as exciting/interesting. I'm never quite sure who that says more about - the producers or the viewers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkitt Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I didn't know a 47 hauling a Mk4 set in service was possible - it certainly wouldn't happen today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Y99 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 No it would be a class 67 instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted April 10, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2012 I didn't know a 47 hauling a Mk4 set in service was possible - it certainly wouldn't happen today! That was the beauty of the IC225 programme, because of the design requirement for Class91s to haul Mk3 sleeper trains on the new ECML, they were built to work with standard loco haulled Mk3 (& presumably the air con Mk2s) stock. Therefore it follows that the Mk4 stock - loco interface is also of the standard BR loco haulled type (as oposed to the HST sets which have bespoke ETS connections). In fact the TDM is probably the only 'class 91' specific connection fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 . In fact the TDM is probably the only 'class 91' specific connection fitted. Not even that, Cl.90 & 89 regularly hauled and shoved Leeds/Bradford-Kings Cross services. C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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