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A very interesting thread here,

If you could run us through the Dubdee again again that would be lovely.for all those of who did'nt see the published article.

A step by step would be nice. list of colours used etc.

 

For my mind and in my humble opinion .Your thread on here does recieve a lot of praise but  completely lacks any actual constructive criticism.

Since we are all on a learning curve it might nice to show some balance.

 

Look forward to the step by step..

 

regards,

 

Andy (ad1968)

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A very interesting thread here,

If you could run us through the Dubdee again again that would be lovely.for all those of who did'nt see the published article.

A step by step would be nice. list of colours used etc.

 

For my mind and in my humble opinion .Your thread on here does recieve a lot of praise but  completely lacks any actual constructive criticism.

Since we are all on a learning curve it might nice to show some balance.

 

Look forward to the step by step..

 

regards,

 

Andy (ad1968)

If you have a look at some of AndyP's other threads such as Trebudoc http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/54364-trebudoc-in-o-gauge-videos-page-28-29-31-to-33-36/ you will find a few videos that go into greater detail with a bit more practical information.   :declare:

 

Great threads here andyp, lots of info to show us how to go about things when we didn't have a clue, not to long ago.  :sungum:

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Hi Andy! Was kindly give a FREE Expo Airbrush Brush Starter Kit, thanks to the extremely kind staff at my local model shop, Signals Models, Midsomer Norton. They where the ones that got me started in weathering and are really impressed with my work so far. They know all my work tends to be powders based and was wonder if I could give airbrushing a go, to give the models a good base coat like yours. So they gave me this set to have a go will.  

 Only problem is I have no idea where to start or what blend of paints to use to get that amazing base colour like yours (been looking at the Tamiya Paints you recommend, but not sure what colour or blend of colours)! :good: Any tips? Here's a picture of the set they gave me...

 

Many thanks

                   Callum

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A very interesting thread here,

If you could run us through the Dubdee again again that would be lovely.for all those of who did'nt see the published article.

A step by step would be nice. list of colours used etc.

 

For my mind and in my humble opinion .Your thread on here does recieve a lot of praise but  completely lacks any actual constructive criticism.

Since we are all on a learning curve it might nice to show some balance.

 

Look forward to the step by step..

 

regards,

 

Andy (ad1968)

Hi Andy, if your referring to post 63, then I can add no more at the moment in case its published in the next year, but just a brief description of the powders and they are from the Carrs range, the white Gel pen is from an art shop and the paint is all Tamyia Acrylics, mainly XF1 Flat Black, Flat Brown, Flat Sand and Flat white. Unfortunately they are all packed away in boxes ready for a House move so I cant get access to he rest of the numbers. It was done to copy a photograph.

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I have since toned it down a bit as well.

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Hope this all helps,

Andy

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Hi Andy! Was kindly give a FREE Expo Airbrush Brush Starter Kit, thanks to the extremely kind staff at my local model shop, Signals Models, Midsomer Norton. They where the ones that got me started in weathering and are really impressed with my work so far. They know all my work tends to be powders based and was wonder if I could give airbrushing a go, to give the models a good base coat like yours. So they gave me this set to have a go will.  

 Only problem is I have no idea where to start or what blend of paints to use to get that amazing base colour like yours (been looking at the Tamiya Paints you recommend, but not sure what colour or blend of colours)! :good: Any tips? Here's a picture of the set they gave me...

 

Many thanks

                   Callum

You luck man Callum, I mix about 50/50 with the Tamyia and just really mess around from there, once you get going its addictive and you will more than likely want a proper compressor as I have for a constant even pressure and a better finish, but its a very good way to start.

 

I wish you well with it.

Andy

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You luck man Callum, I mix about 50/50 with the Tamyia and just really mess around from there, once you get going its addictive and you will more than likely want a proper compressor as I have for a constant even pressure and a better finish, but its a very good way to start.

 

I wish you well with it.

Andy

Thanks for the tips! I take that it is 50/50 with paint to thinners? Plus what Tamyia colours would you recommend for the job? I picked up a pot of railmatch acrylic frame dirt which quite a few people recommend today, not sure what you think of that stuff? Sorry if these sound like silly questions, just want to get it right first time! :jester: Plus the shop has got a compressor back for me if I can get the hang of it.

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Thanks for the tips! I take that it is 50/50 with paint to thinners? Plus what Tamyia colours would you recommend for the job? I picked up a pot of railmatch acrylic frame dirt which quite a few people recommend today, not sure what you think of that stuff? Sorry if these sound like silly questions, just want to get it right first time! :jester: Plus the shop has got a compressor back for me if I can get the hang of it.

Railmatch is good and sprays well even if not diluted with thinners.

 

See my post above for the colours I use.

Andy

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Railmatch is good and sprays well even if not diluted with thinners.

 

See my post above for the colours I use.

Andy

Glad to here it! Think I will do 50/50 with it on the first go and see how it comes out. Sorry I did not spot the paint types in the pervious post, will get some the next time I visit Signals. Do you have to mix the colours at all? :mail: Again many thanks! :good:

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Glad to here it! Think I will do 50/50 with it on the first go and see how it comes out. Sorry I did not spot the paint types in the pervious post, will get some the next time I visit Signals. Do you have to mix the colours at all? :mail: Again many thanks! :good:

Hi Callum. You can mix them and its probably better but for exhaust soot I tend to leave the Tamyia neat. It still sprays fine with my kit.

 

Andy :sungum:

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Hi all, before reading this check out post 83 above,

 

it is my WD, well yesterday a I decided to clean it up a but more, so I gave it a wash down with Dirty Enamel Thinners and here is the result, I may just give the sides a light blow over to tone down the numbers a bit more later.

 

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This to me shows the beauty of Acrylics as you ca wash them off fairly easily and return a fairly clean loco.

 

Andy :sungum:

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Hi all, before reading this check out post 83 above,

 

it is my WD, well yesterday a I decided to clean it up a but more, so I gave it a wash down with Dirty Enamel Thinners and here is the result, I may just give the sides a light blow over to tone down the numbers a bit more later.

 

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This to me shows the beauty of Acrylics as you ca wash them off fairly easily and return a fairly clean loco.

 

Andy :sungum:

Lovely new look Andy! She sure looks like she has seen a bit of action, plus had a clean that my may have felt fond of her! :jester: Sort of a bit like the look I went with my latest loco (no where near as good as yours though :derisive: ) I still have yet to test my airbrush properly, so I my have to give it a good tomorrow. Will have to see how my first results are with it! Might get messy! Keep up the great work! :good:

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  • 1 year later...

Mate loving the weathering-do you do commissions?

Hi Thanks for the compliments, but sorry I don't really take commissions, I just do a few small jobs for Club members and that's all.

 

Sorry,

Andy.

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Hi andy

 

Stunning work on that wd mate.

 

Im seriously thinking about buying an airbrush after messing about with powders.

Could you kindly do a step by step guide on how you did the wd?

Which paints etc,i love that grotty all over look youve gave it,i cant seem to get the same look by just using powders.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

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Hi Ben, Thanks for your interest.

The Airbrush and Baby Elephant Compressor came from Everything Airbrush near Bournemouth and worked out about £60 all in.

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For Loco weathering I like Acrylics, mainly because I work in a Shed and because I can wash everything out under the Tap.

I also use Carr's Weathering Powders that I've had for about 20 years, there's a couple of Rust colours a Soot and a sort of Brown / Black mix.

I do use Enamels for doing some Dry Brushing as well.

For wagons like this, the underframe is moistened with Humbrol 62 Leather and then Rust powders added for a Rust effect.

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For Locos I use the Tamyia Acrylics, usually XF1 Flat Black a Sandy Colour and  Brown. The pot on the left is where I pour all the dregs from the Airbrush and it forms a lovely Brown / Black mix

Here are some pics of Q1 I did a little while ago.  I also used a 9V Battery for rotating the Wheels whilst Spraying the underframe.

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A this point most people would consider it finished, but studying photos of Q1's in Service they were in a pretty bad way towards the end, so I set to with some Car's Powders, they come in little sachets but these are decanted into pots for ease of use.

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Next it had a final Blow over with the Mix from the old Pot from about 6 inches away just to give a final covering of Grime.

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I hope this is of some help Ben.

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Very helpful andy,thanks very much.

 

That Q1 looks great and very typical of them in later years,so much better than a shiny new model of it.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to post up those pics.

 

Cheers

 

Ben

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Hi Andy, I,ve just found your topic and read through, it,s very interesting! I have loads of wagons to do plus 4 locos, I just wanted to ask if you seal the surface after applying weathering powders and if so, what do you use?

 

 

Cheers, Pete.

Thnaks Pete, well early on I didn't bother but now I sometimes use Humbril Matt Varnish, BUT BE CAREFUL of Cab Glazing, it ruins it completely.

 

All the best.

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Done some weathering for one of the Guys at Club, they came with a really thick high Gloss finish which Ashley didn't want, so a total dusting, a bit extra along the lower body and a better colour for the Roof. Now it looks more in Service as requested by Ashley.

 

As they were.

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And Now.

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