'CHARD Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) Been trawling the inestimable Railbrit archive again, and thanks to the usual legends, here are links to, Waverley before and post-closure, a 37 at Whitrope, Clayton taking water at Carstairs, Ilfracombe being demolished, and a 26 on single line at Whitrope on April Fools Day 1971. EDITED 28th December to include caption highlights. And an Early Blue 47 at Melrose (image 26778), check out the headcode, I would LOVE confirmation that this is 1547, that I have now based a Bachmann i.d. tweak on, as covered in my W/B Blog. Enjoy... http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26820 Keshopefoot looking north towards L/C http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26778 1547 (?) at Melrose, check out headcode http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26771 GRCW at Leith Central DMU shed http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26756 Selkirk Sta 1970 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26755 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26736 St Boswells northwards view http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26733 D2720 ready to lift Kelso - Tweedmouth section http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26719 Riccarton from Up Peak-hauled Class 1 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26663 Early Blue 24 at Whitrope, i.d. confirmation sought http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26600 Up view into Whitrope from 40-hauled 4M45 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26572 5307 at Whitrope, obbo special April 1st 1971 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26541 Class 37 D6838 at Whitrope December '68 RARITY http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26522 Non-Waverley: last Corstorphine DMU at Waverley http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26493 Class 08 across Hawick rooftops, demolition 1971 Edited January 4, 2012 by 'CHARD 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Pure gold 'Chard, pure gold. You seem to be better at sniffing this stuff out than I am mate! Thanks for your sterling efforts - stuff like this has potential for turning my layout project! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 (edited) And the next set, now with added detail: 3-car Met-Cam near Selkirk Jct on 4/1/69, this is the very essence of Waverley and the houses are spot-on the style of my semis! http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26427 The less-photographed Deltic special with 9002, in a very rare photographic locus, approaching Gala from the south, telegraph pole and signal cabling in evidence: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26402 BFYE D5337 at Penton in the frost just before the end: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26387 Shankend on 1/4/71 with D5307: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26380 Lyneside SB, this will blow your mind, Millerhill Boy! http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26353 Subject of recent frothing, City of Truro on the border ECML-style: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26332 Green EE Type 4 at the very start of the Waverley in Carlisle, Dec '68: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26316 Scotch Dyke http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26311 Looking back at Gala from a Clayton cab: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26307 Ballymoss on Shankend 1967, load 13 ECML diversion: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26286 80113 Hawick http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26260 A 50 glimpsed from a Waverley service http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26254 Border Counties trackbed, Plashetts http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26241 The last Hawick freight, April '69. Beyond poignant, these Clayton pics - http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26237 http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26182 Last Hawick freight at Millerhill, with awesome period cars in shot: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26210 Heriot and a BFYE 64B 40, this shot is as good as it gets?? http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26200 B1 approaching Hawick: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26146 Holy grail time: Early Blue 1536 at Copshaw Holm, note carriage boards http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26129 A4, Whitrope, snow aplenty http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26065 Sir Visto, Hawick http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26037 Seldom photographed: Longtown http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26026 Tudor Minstrel, Shankend http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=26011 D49 at Hawick (see, I'm not biased!) http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=25948 That's all for now, it's turkey time! Enjoy!!! Edited January 4, 2012 by 'CHARD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted December 25, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 25, 2009 Excellent un-earthings Chard - I do regularly look at the Raibrit site but it is vast and not totally straightforward to negotiate -the '24' pics have had made me realise I was not that far out with the 'Deadwater' layout, with the way the N gauge stuff is coming along, especially the idea of a Dapol N 26 Steele Road or Whiterope Sidings looks just the ticket! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 25, 2009 Author Share Posted December 25, 2009 The 40 at Heriot shot is worth a second look. The caption is only half right, because far from passing through the station with a party of students on board, one of whom is taking the picture (because he later turns up taking a picture from the train itself entering Whitrope Tunnel), at the time the shutter is pressed the driver is actually setting back into Heriot refuge siding to detach a wagon that was running a hot box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 A few more for Boxing Day: Peak at Newcastleton towards the very end: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25212 Some B1 action: Hawick http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25704 and Hassendean http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25674 action of a different sort at Hassendean http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25176 Clayton near Dalry with Ardeer gunpowder vans? Yes, I know it's not the Waverley! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25556 Merlin at Gala http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25559 Rare locus episode 35: Bowland box http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25514 Rare locus episode 36: Riddings four years after closure http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25141 and on the branch at Canonbie http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25080 Read the captions and weep http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25235 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25223 Read the poster and weep, I had forgotten Kelso lasted this long: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25192 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Any sane, joined-up plan would question the closure of a railway serving towns that were clearly experiencing growth. Here??™s a very tasty 40 role-playing a vulture at Burnfoot in ??™72: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25060 Where do you start with signature Waverley like this at Kelso Jct?: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25032 Pretty shot of a Type 2 entering Gala, around the time of rationalization: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24991 Fancy weathered twenties? Here??™s a rare Langholm branch shot: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24986 Stobs Camp ??“ scars of MoD tramway on Acreknowe hillside: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24980 Round Arnton Fell, today this would rival the beauty of the West Highland: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24960 I lingered here eating lunch in 2003. I saw my only ever red squirrels, but no GSYP EE Type 1s came past: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24958 Pass the remote: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24956 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24860 Read the caption, it??™s my branch??™s entire raison d??™etre: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24948 To the other Mr McCartney, a knighthood surely awaits: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24941 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24942 Enough to bring grown men to tears: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24868 Stobs with one of the 64B GFYE ladies (1968/9 0r 72), suitably informative headcode but this is 2M54 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24864 Gresley N2 at Hawick, it says here: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24829 Caption caution, mid-60s must be pre-'64 if Riddings Sta is open, as it appears to be, now check out the smoke from this 12A Black 5! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24585 Steele Road, with only a handful of trains left to call, this station building makes a very tempting model... http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24553 Hawick then and now, note oval wheel on the Vauxhall Omega! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24768 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Fortunately, due to contaminated mazak, this unwelcome insurgent disintegrated near Melrose and was cut up on site in Darnick Siding during 1960. http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24644 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 'Chard, you're curing any post-turkey blues here deep in snowy 'SouWest territory - thanks, and condiments of the season to you B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Great boxing day viewing 'Chard. So many I hadn't seen before despite trawling the superb railbrit site many times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 The extensive Railbrit archive is not the easiest to navigate nor the most searchable, thus it rewards persistence. Because it is, as we all know, a goldmine. The past two days' work has enabled me to definitively i.d 1547 as my second Early Blue Brush. I say this with 60% certainty, which is sufficient for decaling and detailing purposes. Pictured at Melrose and photographed when I think, the last digits suspiciously look like 47 after I manipulated the image as a screengrab, she would have been a DO5 (Crewe) machine at the time, and therefore very plausible indeed. Now to research the i.d of the 24 at Whitrope with the early style serif D-numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Now to research the i.d of the 24 at Whitrope with the early style serif D-numbers. Thanks again for your persistance-any clues as to the above?? And don't forget the pic of D5072 at Steele Road in Spetember 1968 in Diesel Days Scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 Meld, 1967 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24478 NBR Scott at Hawick http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24437 1969, one of the legendary 64B ???nine??™ http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24432 Hawick, redevelopment encroaches, and blue-brick parapets! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24373 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 Bust the Bank Holiday Blues with this selection of links to awesome pictures of the Waverley route on the Railbrit site, including some great signalbox pics towards the end... PESCO special ??“ sounds like something from Wallace & Monument, sorry Gromit! One of my fav people shots on the line: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24638 Did I link to this V2 already? If I did, look again and check out the concrete sand? bin foreground: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24617 Ok, who hasn??™t stood here yet? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24607 Five days before my DOB! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24525 Pair of V2s on the seldom recorded stretch south towards Barnes http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24510 ??¦and as the driver??™s eye view looks today: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24492 I have never seen this location before: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24346 OR, incredibly, Newtongrange ??“ last station to see a photo of? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24342 Shankend Peak ??“ signature Waverley http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24320 How about THIS little piece of history, was the fare expensive for ??™68? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24272 Newcastleton box, incredible record shot http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24239 Falahill http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24216 Kershopefoot box http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24172 Longtown box and Mossband chord http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24154 Shankend box and refuge http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24143 Scotch Dyke box http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24135 Tarras Viaduct on the Langholm branch, visited here but never heard it called by that name, wonder if the 4MT is 43139 or 43106! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24093 St Boswells Sth box http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24063 BRCW on special 4th January ??™69, Riccarton http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24052 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 'Chard I came across a present day set on Flickr here: which contains this, truly beautiful, shot of the landscape taken from Shankend viaduct: also - Notice: Double Claytons @ Kingmoor: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Fortunately, due to contaminated mazak, this unwelcome insurgent disintegrated near Melrose and was cut up on site in Darnick Siding during 1960. http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=24644 Never seen a shot of it on the Waverley, though its WHL and Far North trials are documented. Not the only one to traverse the route though, IIRC there was one on a troop special c.1965/66 The extensive Railbrit archive is not the easiest to navigate nor the most searchable Slight understatement. It's what we in the trade call 'pants' Now to research the i.d of the 24 at Whitrope with the early style serif D-numbers. This might have come up before Chard but assuming it's a disc one (and you mean it's blue), 5062 and '68 were the early repaints in that condition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Bostin set of links there 'Chard. One which really drew me was 5307 on the saloon. 5307 thought I - surely that should have had it's boiler removed and SSC added by then, but due to some unknown reason 5307 became 26020. Anyone know why ? The only reason I can think of is that D5300 was in the works being fitted with the extra gubbins, and couldn't have become 26000. Great stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 5307 thought I - surely that should have had it's boiler removed and SSC added by then, but due to some unknown reason 5307 became 26020. Anyone know why ? The only reason I can think of is that D5300 was in the works being fitted with the extra gubbins, and couldn't have become 26000. Kind of. Because xx000 numbers werent used, gaps were filled - 5328 had been withdrawn, so 5320 became 26028, 5307 became 26020 and 5300 became 26007 - complicated, but it kept all the subclassses and braking variants together. (I havent been upstairs to check but I think I've got that sequence right) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) Jamie's post Mate, great spots! I'm not conversant enough with Flickr to search the site effectively, and fortunately I am pedestrian enough to trawl Railbrit - as Pennine says it's a bit user-fiendish. The closure notice is awesome, it lists two dozen 'stations and halts,' including Whitrope, which was presumably staff-only (so why list it, as there won't be any jobs there on 6th Jan '69?), and the inclusion of Harker suggests that there was still a staff service, presumably into Carlisle, at this date, including non-Waverley staff who would still be required to turn up for work on Black Monday. Parkhouse RAF personnel were the other non-public affected. Ian, the appearance of another 31 on a troop special doesn't surprise me at all, but 28s and 29s remain in the tantalizing basket. [EDIT: there is no evidence that either of these classes, nor any other pedal-cars ever rode the Waverley's metals.] Incidentally, like 31s, I do not want any evidence they were even intermittent performers on the line. Regarding the 24 i.d - yep those two do tally with my notes, I'll double-check the position of livery elements as these may be subtly different on them. Phil, I'm no expert on 26 works visits, but now you mention it 5307 is that odd-man out, shame that in detail she differs from the HJ model, as she's probably the essential 64B specimen. You just know that last comment I made will trigger more W/B tomfoolery... Cheers for the comments guys, guess the Bank Holiday bounce brought it to the attention of more people. Edited January 4, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Bust the Bank Holiday Blues with this selection of links to awesome pictures of the Waverley route on the Railbrit site, including some great signalbox pics towards the end... Chard, you've done it again man. Whilst browsing these, a Donovan mid '60s ballad I ain't heard of, but totally fitting came on the radio, I was bl**dy choked mate! :icon_e_sad: But cheers anyway - superb selection! :icon_thumbsup2: Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted December 28, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'm glad someone took a photograph of the famous last stand by the locals at Newcastleton! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=18723 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'm glad someone took a photograph of the famous last stand by the locals at Newcastleton! http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=18723 Indeed, this legendary episode in the disgraceful closure process is captured in several pictures, including by one of the papers, if I'm not mistaken. The daytime and Downing Street elements of the protest ae also well catered for. However, as my layout will be the line in suspended animation in late '68, I will never have cause to model this in 00! I wonder at what point in the procedings this picture was taken, because the constabulary seems to outnumber the protesters here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) This might have come up before Chard but assuming it's a disc one (and you mean it's blue), 5062 and '68 were the early repaints in that condition Just gone back over these links and have never seen a 1160hp / class 24 with the arrows on the cab doors before. Are you suggesting that 5062 and 5068 were the only two like it Ian ? Fascinating stuff. Edited January 4, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Just gone back over these links and have never seen a 1160hp / class 24 with the arrows on the cab doors before. Are you suggesting that 5062 and 5068 were the only two like it Ian ? Fascinating stuff. When you inflate that pic to the limits of reasonable resolution, the anonymous Type 2 looks like it could be D5071, which IIRC was a 64B machine at this time, along with TTGSYP sister 5072 that is the subject of the Kernow L/E. At the moment the intended recipient remains recumbent in her Bachmann box awaiting clarification on this point, for she will end up in this very era-specific early livery variant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22956 shows D8574 and D5071 most definitely in GSYP Summer 68, so did the 64B Type 2 receive Early Blue before the winter? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23139 this appears to show D8574 again later that summer but now BFYE? It's got GSYP D5310 (I think) inside anyhow, so Haymarket's stayed green after Inverness' were going wholesale BFYE, also seen here http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23307 check out the chalk-marked leading PMV - is it? don't recognise the origins http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23147 familiar tracklifting shot at Hawick '71 A memorable Class 25 face from the freight-only period: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22929 some 45 contrasts from Russell Saxton's 'Name that Peak' thread: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23740 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23712 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=23706 http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22905 but what is this: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22765 Green, full yellow end, centre glass panel Class 45, red 55A shedplate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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