Bernard Lamb Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Re my last post. http://www.railbrit.co.uk/Plashetts_Colliery_Waggonway/frame.htm Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Been up to Brunthill to pay my respects this morning. Sure I caught a very faint glimpse of D60 going into Carlisle... Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 11, 2010 Author Share Posted January 11, 2010 41 years have passed, yet on RMWeb discussion continues... This link takes you to a letter from a Mrs Madge Elliot of Hawick to Network Rail in relation to reinstatement of the line. All well and good, then look at page two, granted it's an nth generation copy but this and its context make it even more poignant. Two BFYE Claytons wait in the goods yard, which is seen from an angle I've never seen properly before, the extra bay platform (what use did this see latterly i.e. in '68, does anyone know?) and fan of sidings serving the extensive town yard just go to show why this location was the spiritual heart of the route. http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse%20documents/rus%20documents/route%20utilisation%20strategies/scotland/consultation%20responses/e/mrs%20madge%20elliot.pdf Note, the pdf is a bit of a slow loader, when you go to page 2 rotate clockwise and zoom to fit the window. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg06003 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Mention of the Lady Vic. Pit reminds me of a story I heard long ago. After the official withdrawal of steam they continued to use a BR loco for pit traffic. After a few days the authorities found out and this operation ceased. Any one able to comfirm this story or supply any more information? Bernard Bernard, Perhaps you're thinking of Seafield Colliery in Fife and Thornton's use of a J36. A pic, I think, in one of Bill Anderson's books. Fascinating thread. Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 There is a rather nice uncaptioned picture just here: D1971, one of the 64B nine, at a mystery location! Must confess, I made involuntary noises upon finding this. Not seen that angle of H***** station before, and the giveaway - yet misleading - headcode is a classic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 There is a rather nice uncaptioned picture just here: D1971, one of the 64B nine, at a mystery location! Must confess, I made involuntary noises upon finding this. Not seen that angle of H***** station before, and the giveaway - yet misleading - headcode is a classic! Nice find 'Chard. I find that a great site but not too easy to search for pictures. You done well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 There is no end of interest in that photo. And loads of imponderables: what is she working (hint, it ain't what's wound-up!), when was this taken, did the photographer take more pics and if so, what was occurring just to his right, at the goods yard and possibly the depot - if it was still open? Hawick from this angle is compelling because it is relatively unusual. Right now, there's a swimming pool or row of cross-trainers where the duff is standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Another of Bruce's classic pictures, this time a peek at a Peak at Steele Road, with a bogie van of interest leading the consist. The page on Derby Sulzers from which the link is taken has some interesting Waverley gen, including info that the junction to the route from the WCML at Carlisle No.3 was removed on 12-13th January 1969 as it was slated for renewal that had been held in abeyance until the line's fate was sealed. It would seem that a TSR on the other main line possibly applied to this, hastening its demise. http://www.derbysulzers.com/45xxxwavsteelerd.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Read the caption to this, I mean, a Waverley Route picture needs no excuse, but the story that this tells is simply incredible: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=25189 I've heard of the practice of closed depots being used for loco storage but never Gala! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Railbrit being what it is, I had never seen this piece before, I actually found it searching Google for Stobs Station.... If you have any interest in the Waverley Route, or indeed the socio-economic impact of Beeching, spare five minutes to read this. Those 300 seconds will be repaid immeasurable times over. http://www.railbrit.co.uk/articles.php?recno=31 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 First thought on looking at that first picture was 'What a weird layout! How did trains coming towards the camera get on to the right hand track?'. Then I remembered that there wouldn't be any trains coming that way - the right hand branch was for southbounds only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 That is a nice picture for sure but just what is the white post on the left? http://rniescottishailwayrchive.fotopic.net/p48424399.html Don't know what the white post is for, but there's a couple of wires or cables attached to it. Wonder if they may be a support for the signals? Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Simply the best picture I've seen of the simplified facing junction at Longtown for the Millerhill - Kingmoor freights, dating this to post-'63, and judging by the weathering of the modified formation I'm guessing towards the end in '68...... Enjoy: http://rniescottisha.../p48424399.html EDIT: and while you're here, check out this horticultural wonder, this to me is railway Nirvana.... http://rniescottishailwayrchive.fotopic.net/p55196418.html If an enormous, WW2 bombing raid-sized formation of pigs ever gets airborne in these parts, this in all probability is where a re-born through route will come in from the WCML. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Don't know what the white post is for, but there's a couple of wires or cables attached to it. Wonder if they may be a support for the signals? Bruce From that angle i'd say it was simply a gallows stay post for the signals as you say. For a moment i thought i'd found a Post-Pitfall, all line material code 661/2/43&44.. http://richard2890.fotopic.net/p63313246.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Did we have this pic of a Pug at Lady Vic Pit yet? http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcbain/2236952014/in/set-72157603839302089/ Regarding the unexplained Longtown S&T: Sam, your suggestion initially floored me, but having reflected on it for a few hours it may be plausible for the days prior to conversion of the chord to One Way Traffic, that a token was involved. Then again, LNERGE's footage of the esoteric bit of standard pattern infrastructure also resonates. Either is well outwith my ken, so I'm looking forward to other opinions on the defunct knobbly white post of Longtown... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I have added the 7 October 1946 Working Timetable covering the Waverley & Border Counties to my fotopic site http://rniescottishailwayrchive.fotopic.net/c1069899.html It is loaded in landscape format so that it is easier to read, there are some interesting workings including an unadvertised train from Hawick 11.18pm various Saturdays to Falstone and returning to Stobs Camp arriving at 2.10am on a Sunday morning! ERnie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Scottish railways normally conducted token exchanges by means of a raised platform onto which the signalman climbed. I believe that this post it a support for the signal's guy lines. Immediately behind in shot is an NB pattern water crane. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Another of Bruce's classic pictures, this time a peek at a Peak at Steele Road, with a bogie van of interest leading the consist. The page on Derby Sulzers from which the link is taken has some interesting Waverley gen, including info that the junction to the route from the WCML at Carlisle No.3 was removed on 12-13th January 1969 as it was slated for renewal that had been held in abeyance until the line's fate was sealed. It would seem that a TSR on the other main line possibly applied to this, hastening its demise. http://www.derbysulzers.com/45xxxwavsteelerd.jpg Pretty certain the van's an ex-LMS 42' bogie GUV, albeit from an earlier build than the Lima model. What's up with coach further along the train? It looks as though it's got a silver roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Don't know if this is the pug you wanted. Photo taken in April 1972 Btw, I plead "not guilty" for the photo at Steele Road ~ it ain't one of mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Oh, now that's a picture to launch half a dozen discussions.... I think it was Jeremy and David (not checked back) who had the Lady Vic pug anecdotes. That's certainly the first picture I've seen which puts the colliery in context from that angle. Great rows of internal user wagons, that part of the Lothian coalfield would have been a sight to see in the fifties and sixties I imagine. I'm assuming the disused-looking lines in the front are to and from Gorebridge... For some reason I thought the pit had closed by then, or maybe that traffic from it had ceased, I'm definitely not ready for my appointment on Mastermind yet!!! EDIT: not sure where I read the caption/ photo credit for the Steele Road Peak, but pretty sure I didn't make it up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'm assuming the disused-looking lines in the front are to and from Gorebridge... For some reason I thought the pit had closed by then, or maybe that traffic from it had ceased, It closed in 1981, but I don't know how active it was in the last few years. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 It closed in 1981, but I don't know how active it was in the last few years. Bernard Thanks for that! Why I didn't google or wiki it I have no idea - Doh! Now we're talking about it, here's another very good record shot from the Scottish archives: http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=174637 1981 closure makes a huge amount of sense now I think about it. I clearly remember NCB-liveried eight-leggers on the roads in the area in the years 1977-81, to the extent that I even modelled some in an improvised home-brewed livery on my then layout. The Lothian coalfield was always an attractive spotting destination, with the focus on Millerhill, and it was truly in its twilight years by this stage. Sadly the one aspect I have no recollection of, was the eventual tracklifting of the Waverley between Millerhill and Newtongrange, which I presume was completed by 1974 or thereabouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 23, 2010 Author Share Posted February 23, 2010 Hereward the Wake and an EE Type 4 at Hawick - incredible, 1965: [/url]http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=23609 Hawick as I remember it, 1975, really sad shot: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=27416 One line lifted, looks like Flex cutting to me: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=27623 A classic moment captured from the other side; D5116 at Hawick, road vehicle in shot, this loco will be on my W/B by Friday all being well: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=27736 Awesome shot of Hawick pilot and the last loco to move on the route before official closure, Heljan Clayton D8606, what a pretty engine, Millerhill '71: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=27773 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Have we had the Std 4 mogul pic yet? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=27666 found it the other day along with more westerly delights, and some of those posted above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Awesome shot of Hawick pilot and the last loco to move on the route before official closure, Heljan Clayton D8606, what a pretty engine, Millerhill '71: http://www.railbrit....te.php?id=27773 Superb. I'm not sure I've ever seen a picture of a clayton actually on the shed. Seen plenty in the yard I think but not on shed. Superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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