Ben Alder Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) I am afraid that we are coming to the end of my photographic foray- that, I think, was all the slides I have, and here are a few film shots. After that there are a handful of B/W ones and then that's it. Why I didn't take more, I don't know- wish I had- but at least they are now out and about rather than sitting in a box for far too many years. If anyone wants copies of any, just ask, and feel free to make use of them as you will- perhaps we could start a weathering thread based on them! Anyway, the photos... This was a brake van set aside for the Corp. project and was in Duthie Park, so that's as good as I could get. For the use of Bristol wagon shops- wonder if they ever found out where it went? Edited September 24, 2012 by Ben Alder 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Here are the last of the Ferryhill pics- some B/W ones I took for some reason. This seems to be the lot, although its not beyond possible that others may be tucked away somewhere, as my "filing"is non-existent. The last two I have included in the Dept. thread but for completeness I have included here as well. So, that's a record of a very small part of the once vast array of wagons reaching near the end of their working lives, and hope it has inspired some modelling ideas. Edited September 25, 2012 by Ben Alder 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) There was another attraction to larger sheds at this time- steam cranes and their associated antique coaching stock. Here are a couple of shots of Ferryhill's resident. Unfortunately, I never managed to catch it in steam, unlike Haymarket's one, which always seemed to be simmering away, and if you were lucky, your train would either have a signal check or be running slowly past the depot, and that unique aroma of malting and steam would fill the air, almost as if the ghost of 64B's past was around- all gone now, I'm afraid.... Two sides of the riding van- an ex NB example,IIR I have included this shot, but I think it was taken at an Inverness open day- please confirm/correct as necessary- but it is certainly from the area. Edited October 5, 2012 by Ben Alder 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Forgot these two- 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 For completeness, I will include those few diesel pics I took at the time. They are scans of slides, and getting a good overall colour balance from these is a skill beyond the scanner, and operator,used, but I concentrated on the subject at the expense of background, hence somewhat iffy skies, but the engines are as close to the original as I could get. Once again, it's a mixed bunch, quality wise, but they are all I saw fit to take. Sorry.... 47521 24116 08817 25026 26008 47208 unknown Class 40- green ones were thin on the ground by this time- no doubt someone will recognise it. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2012 OMG, breakdown stock, it just gets better Mike. PS. Shame about the telephone numbered locos!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Excellent photos. I've always wondered whether departmental wagons got 'E Sc' painted on them and you've proved that they did. Lots of interesting wagons to there to replicate for the replacement for Longcarse West. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Is that 08 still in BR green with a blue patch where the TOPS number is? I'm getting ideas now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Some lovely stuff; I like the 24t minerals with the top door plated up, and one with a pair of replacement rivetted doors. I can't say I've seen that before. Unusual to see one of the end-door china clay wagons that far north; even in Stoke, which received up to fifty clay wagons a day, one of these would be deemed unusual. The 'Ferry High' would probably have been conveying 'whiting' (finely-powdered chalk) from the Hull area- this was used for putty manufacture, and as a filler for paper. This is imported in to Aberdeen as a slurry these days, I believe. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Wonderful stuff... Wonderful stuff... Wonderful stuff... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 From memory 47208 was the last of the 'early' withdrawals of the class, and the first TOPS numbered example to go. Probably not too many pictures of that one around, let alone green with TOPS numbers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Is that 08 still in BR green with a blue patch where the TOPS number is? I'm getting ideas now. Yes, and lasted for some time in green- can't recall dates though- more's the pity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 More lovely shots. 47521 has an interesting headcode of 1T36. Assuming it was correctly set, does anybody know what service this corresponded to? Thanks again, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) More lovely shots. 47521 has an interesting headcode of 1T36. Assuming it was correctly set, does anybody know what service this corresponded to? Thanks again, Bill The 1975 WTT has 1T36 as the 1320 service to Glasgow Queen Street, arriving 1636½, 250 tons, motive power class 40. "T" seems to be the code for all services terminating into Queen Street: Oban, Mallaig, Inverness, Aberdeen, Dundee, Falkirk Grahamston, Stirling, and non-push-pull from Edinburgh (push-pull trains had "O"). edit ... forgot Dundee ... can't let that go, I was born there! Edited October 6, 2012 by Graham R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Why I didn't take more, I don't know- wish I had- but at least they are now out and about rather than sitting in a box for far too many years. If anyone wants copies of any, just ask, and feel free to make use of them as you will- perhaps we could start a weathering thread based on them! Dear BenSome very nice shots. The LNER covhop alumina is nice, first time I've seen a colour picture of one ( I still regret not having the nerve to go into Inverness yard when I could see one in 1977)May I suggest that one reason for not taking more photos was that it was an expensive hobby! I have similar regrets, not least having lived across the park from Edge Hill wagon shops and only ever having a look over the fence once, on a lovely sunny March and not taking any photos (of the GWR fruit, BR coils converted from single bolster, covhops....Paul BartlettPS for others, 24 1/2ton minerals - as well as rivetted side door, I have a photo which has pressed side door. Edited February 25, 2018 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 The 1975 WTT has 1T36 as the 1320 service to Glasgow Queen Street, arriving 1636½, 250 tons, motive power class 40. "T" seems to be the code for all services terminating into Queen Street: Oban, Mallaig, Inverness, Aberdeen, Dundee, Falkirk Grahamston, Stirling, and non-push-pull from Edinburgh (push-pull trains had "O"). edit ... forgot Dundee ... can't let that go, I was born there! Many thanks Graham. I always thought that T in headcodes meant trip (freight), but obviously not in Scotland ;-) Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 7, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) as has been discussed before, it's sometimes quite unusual to see internal ScR passenger trains with the full headcode, quite often there would only be a '1' displayed. from photos even the push-pulls only had 1O-- or 1O00 the main ones i think were T - queen st., 1Oxx - E-G p-p, A - aberdeen, G - edinburgh, N - inverness, P - perth, L - dundee. 2Yxx were edin-glas. central. other letters like H,K,L were used in different areas (i.e. 'local' services into inverness or edinburgh, say) i think E, M, S and V were generally only used for inter-regional trains. as to the ID of the green 40, i notice it has a small round blanking plate on the nose, underneath the headcode box - a distinguishing feature perhaps? (often a sign of having been used on a royal train at some point) and it hasn't been dual-braked yet Edited October 7, 2012 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Much to my suprise, while tidying out some of the modelling debris from my layout build, I came across an A4 pad with notes taken from the Ferryhill visits. I haven't read them properly yet, but there is a ref. to 40184 HA on 13/10/74. Would that possibly be the green one? Edited October 7, 2012 by Ben Alder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 7, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) might be, was trying to find out cl.40 allocation at HA on the brdatabase site, but it keeps freezing on the pages. however, going by your number did a quick search (which i'll update) and found this phot of then D384 in 1968 on brushveteran's flickr http://www.flickr.co...57627818981963/ the 'blue stars' aren't right (but would change easily, i'd have thought), but it does have the off-centre round 'socket' on the no.2 end (in your photo, it looks like it's above the drawhook, but note the loco is on a curve) EDIT: i think this might nail it - round plate is there and checking the various scratches and stains would seem to confirm it (there is a larger size to view) 40 184 at darlington, 29/6/74 on Flickr by markh737 EDIT again: was in blue by 26/7/75 http://www.flickr.com/photos/barrytaxi/4763792276/ Edited October 7, 2012 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 This one needs bumping. I can't think how I managed to miss it first time around. What a superb collection of photies. And the weathering references ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Agreed, a fascinating thread with so many period photos which are full of modelling inspiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 Absolutely agree. I must have missed this thread first time around, but those wagon shots are so evocative, and great for weathering/distressing wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just wish I'd taken more - there was a constant stream of wagons passing through at the time - used to go to the shed on Sundays, but film was expensive and I was a poor student at the time; that and the weather meant that getting good colour shots was chancy. Changed days.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just wish I'd taken more - there was a constant stream of wagons passing through at the time - used to go to the shed on Sundays, but film was expensive and I was a poor student at the time; that and the weather meant that getting good colour shots was chancy. Changed days.... True, digital cameras have made such a difference, but the fact remains that you did take these photies, which are perhaps unique 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just wish I'd taken more - there was a constant stream of wagons passing through at the time - used to go to the shed on Sundays, but film was expensive and I was a poor student at the time; that and the weather meant that getting good colour shots was chancy. Changed days.... Student or not, I was in a similar position as an impoverished apprentice, and money went on important things like tickets and travel, photography was a luxury, try telling that to kids today! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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