Satan's Goldfish Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 25/09/2019 at 12:11, Rob F said: I also thought it was good livery, only spoiled by the stripe around the light clusters for me. Excuse the terrible image editing but I thought it would have been better if the green stripe around the lights had been blended into the green on the body, something like the below: I think the line around the headlights styling was taken from class 91s, DVTs, etc Intercity Swallow branding just before privatisation. The GW 'Merlin' livery still had INTERCITY written on the carriages when first introduced, was there an effort to stay identifiable as an intercity service in those early privatisation years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said: When you are tight for space but really want to include a bridge on your layout. What purpose does, what looks like a check-rail, have on the right? Outside of the running rail? I'm tempted to suggest it's the visible part of a catch point but is too close to the line it'd be protecting, an effective catch would drop the loco in the four foot in that situation. Just curious, C6T. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Classsix T said: What purpose does, what looks like a check-rail, have on the right? Outside of the running rail? I'm tempted to suggest it's the visible part of a catch point but is too close to the line it'd be protecting, an effective catch would drop the loco in the four foot in that situation. Just curious, C6T. Maybe they had a bit of rail left over and didn't know where to put it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, melmerby said: Maybe they had a bit of rail left over and didn't know where to put it? The simplest answer is quite often the right one, but it does look like it's supposed to be there. All affixed and purposeful like... C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted September 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2019 Perhaps their Templot program got corrupted. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Keeping things Irish, how about this fella from Cork..! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Porkscratching said: Keeping things Irish, how about this fella from Cork..! Well, that's just silly! C6T. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said: Perhaps their Templot program got corrupted. Here's another Templot corruption -- 1 buffer stop for 2 tracks: It's Roe Lane Junction, Southport. The building is the maintenance workshops for the L&Y electric stock. Here's the 1927 map, the photo was taken from the footbridge: © National Library of Scotland Here's a link to the full map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/126518903#zoom=4&lat=6551&lon=9998&layers=BT cheers, Martin. 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Porkscratching said: Keeping things Irish, how about this fella from Cork..! What is/was it? Frames say "tender", but the centre entry/steps seem unlikely. I wondered about some sort of early brake vehicle, given what appear to be sandpipes. And I assume that upper bodywork came about because some past railway servant needed somewhere to keep his pigeons. Edited September 27, 2019 by PatB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 hours ago, martin_wynne said: Here's another Templot corruption -- 1 buffer stop for 2 tracks: It's Roe Lane Junction, Southport. The building is the maintenance workshops for the L&Y electric stock. Here's the 1927 map, the photo was taken from the footbridge: © National Library of Scotland Here's a link to the full map: https://maps.nls.uk/view/126518903#zoom=4&lat=6551&lon=9998&layers=BT cheers, Martin. A practical, if somewhat unusual way of trapping the two sets of lines, anything else risks dumping any errant vehicle foul of the operating lines. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, PatB said: What is/was it? Frames say "tender", but the centre entry/steps seem unlikely. I wondered about some sort of early brake vehicle, given what appear to be sandpipes. And I assume that upper bodywork came about because some past railway servant needed somewhere to keep his pigeons. It's a locomotive... Yep that's right, a (vertical boiler) loco.. Edited September 27, 2019 by Porkscratching 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Porkscratching said: It's a locomotive... Yep that's right, a (vertical boiler) loco.. Specifically the coaling stage pilot - called "Pat" ....................... well, you would want to pat it wouldn't you !!?! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 The world's first motorised tender? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, petethemole said: The world's first motorised tender? You can see the gears on the wheelback driven from the pancake motor. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, petethemole said: The world's first motorised tender? Off a K's Lion perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just the one effective guard iron, two 'tother end for cobweb clearance. C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 10 hours ago, melmerby said: A practical, if somewhat unusual way of trapping the two sets of lines, anything else risks dumping any errant vehicle foul of the operating lines. It's a "trap" for the sidings but a well used "head shunt" (and trap) for the depot. (I also like the 3rd rail into the head shunt.) Plus, it's point blades (appear) to go right up to the buffer stop negating the need to have a lever on this point - just leave the point blades floating in the middle (but still tied together) and it will always be right for which ever road attempts to buffer-up. Kev. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, SHMD said: It's a "trap" for the sidings but a well used "head shunt" (and trap) for the depot. (I also like the 3rd rail into the head shunt.) Plus, it's point blades (appear) to go right up to the buffer stop negating the need to have a lever on this point - just leave the point blades floating in the middle (but still tied together) and it will always be right for which ever road attempts to buffer-up. Kev. Are there any "blades"? I assumed the the two tracks arrive at the buffer stop in parallel. There is no sign of any tie bars. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, melmerby said: Are there any "blades"? I assumed the the two tracks arrive at the buffer stop in parallel. There is no sign of any tie bars. I have tended to assume that too. However, If you look at the map, you can see a switch toe drawn inside the buffer end of the track. That may be a draughtsman's wrong assumption, or it may be the result of actual survey. Buffer stops are normally drawn as a single closed end on the rails. cheers, Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adanapress Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Re ClassixT's comment about check rails outside the running rail, I think I have seen various versions of this, sometimes just an angle iron or some other bodge, actually on the bridge decks. I have always thought that this was to make sure any derailed vehicle plunged over the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, adanapress said: Re ClassixT's comment about check rails outside the running rail, I think I have seen various versions of this, sometimes just an angle iron or some other bodge, actually on the bridge decks. I have always thought that this was to make sure any derailed vehicle plunged over the side. Surely to make sure they DID NOT plunge over the side! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, martin_wynne said: I have tended to assume that too. However, If you look at the map, you can see a switch toe drawn inside the buffer end of the track. That may be a draughtsman's wrong assumption, or it may be the result of actual survey. Buffer stops are normally drawn as a single closed end on the rails. cheers, Martin. I've blown up the photo best I can and it doesn't look like the two sets of rails meet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 11 hours ago, melmerby said: I've blown up the photo best I can and it doesn't look like the two sets of rails meet. There doesn't appear to be any slide chairs either. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2019 Do you have lots of loco tenders lying around from various projects? You could have a steam hauled weedkilling train. N class 31829 leaving Redhill for Tonbridge with a Weedkilling Train 21 July 1955 by Charlie Verrall, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2019 12 hours ago, leopardml2341 said: There doesn't appear to be any slide chairs either. Doesn't make sense to actually provide the working elements of a turnout here, and I think it is most likely that the two roads are simply 'interlaced'. They can share a common set of buffer stops, but hitting the stops hard would result in a major blockage across the junction! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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